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Understood, Thanks for keeping me posted -Wikishagnik (talk) 23:03, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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Formal mediation has been requested[edit]

as regards mediation/discussion on Dr. Proctor, seems very simple to solve expeditiously through an official &/or unofficial Wiki invitation to appropriate schools said to employ and grant alleged qualifications(that disagree with State Medical Board file btw) Here is all the contact info. Investigation of Masters Degree, PhD, Thesis adviser, M.D. Residency, Specialization Degree(s) in Pathology, Dermatology,Neuroscience, BioPsychiatry contacthttp://registrar.uth.tmc.edu/reg_contact.html Investigation of Faculty and/or Staff position at Baylor. http://www.bcm.edu/hr/contact Investigation of Faculty and/or Staff position at UTMB http://hr.utmb.edu/Inhouse expert (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC) seems they should have input in discussion & be concerned if or (if not) someone is going around claiming employment at their school.Inhouse expert (talk) 03:03, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

P.S. I just wanted to say that I think you don't get credit and take to much criticism for your efforts to move discussions forward, keep your chin up.Inhouse expert (talk) 15:28, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

Hasteur (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

Hello. You have a new message at Talk:Kashmir conflict's talk page. Mr T(Talk?) (New thread?) 10:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

AN/I[edit]

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:50, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I am not an admin, but I saw the thread at ANI and thought I would take a look at it. I left you and the other editor a note at the article's talk page. I personally feel that shows like that are a total waste of space and time, and by extension, so are the Wikipedia articles on them. But the fact remains that waaaay too many people like that stuff and trying to get rid of the articles on here would be about as productive as trying to get rid of the Pokemon articles. Please don't be offended, but I really do agree that you PROD'd that article in error. Take a look at my note on the article talk page for details. Did the other editor make way too big a deal out of it? Heck, ya he did. But, he appears to be pretty much a WP:SPA editor on TV reality shows, and as I mentioned at the talk page, doesn't seem to grasp WP:N all that well. SPA editors are not always a problem. I edit a lot on high school articles and many of them are maintained almost completely by SPA's. Who else is going to care about a school in BF nowhere that graduates 15 kids a year except one of those 15 kids, ya know? I know I don't want to spend any time working on reality tv articles, and I doubt you do, so given that they are not going to go away, why don't you just do like I do and ignore them completely? You will run into many editors like the one you are in conflict with if you don't, IMHO. Anyway, I hope tomorrow is better for you and I wish you happy editing! Take care. Gtwfan52 (talk) 08:17, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Wikishagnik

Brief version: people are interested in different things; adding a WP:PROD to America's Next Top Model: All-Stars was WP:POINTy.

Long version: Remember the section in The Seagull where Chekhov satires the pretentiousness of Shamrayev, who somehow manages to mangle the Latin maxim De gustibus non est disputandum into "de gustibus aut bene, aut nihil"?

As you can see from see from my contributions, I'm interested in supposedly "high-brow" things and also completely sports mad.

My sports-mad friends simply accept that, while it is not their taste, I am also interested The Yartz

My high-brow culture friends simply accept that, while it is not their taste, I am also mad about sport, particularly about State of Origin series, arguably the greatest sports rivalry in the universe ^{[dubious – discuss]} and most Bogan sports series in Australia^{[dubious – discuss]}

To put it simply: De gustibus non est disputandum. WP:IDONTLIKEIT. You don't like it. Tough luck for us.--Shirt58 (talk) 09:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Peter Proctor 19:30, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for mediation accepted[edit]

DRN organisers[edit]

Hello. I am just letting you know that I've made a proposal to create a rotating DRN organiser-style role that would help with the day-to-day running of DRN. As you are a listed volunteer at DRN, I'd appreciate your thoughts on this, and the other open proposals at DRN. You can read more about it here. Thanks! Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 00:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for mediation rejected[edit]

DRN needs your help![edit]

Hi there. I've noticed it's been a while since you've been active at DRN, and we could really use your help! DRN is going to undergo some changes soon, so it'd really be great if our backlog is cleared before the start of August and we have as many people on board to help with the changes (they include a move to subpages and the creation of a rotating "co-ordinator" role to help manage things day-to-day. Hope to see you soon! Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 11:43, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

The new face of DRN: Wikishagnik[edit]

Recently the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard underwent some changes in how it operates. Part of the change involved a new list of volunteers with a bit of information about the people behind the names.

You are listed as a volunteer at DRN currently, to update your profile is simple, just click here. Thanks, Cabe6403^{(Talk•Sign)} 17:27, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Your involvement with DRN[edit]

Hi there, I noticed that you haven't been as active at DRN as you was before. DRN has been a bit backlogged lately and we could use some extra hands. We have updated our volunteer list to a new format, Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Volunteers (your name is still there under the old format if you haven't updated it) and are looking into ways to make DRN more effective and more rewarding for volunteers (your input is appreciated!). If you don't have much time to volunteer at the moment, that's fine too, just move your name to the inactive list (you're free to add yourself back to active at any time). Hope to see you again soon :) Steven Zhang (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Discussion at WP:ANI#Content manipulation on 2012 Italian Navy Marines shooting incident in the Laccadive Sea[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at WP:ANI#Content manipulation on 2012 Italian Navy Marines shooting incident in the Laccadive Sea because we need fresh set of eyes with a view to resolve content related editorial differences. Onlyfactsnofiction (talk) 10:01, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Email[edit]

You've got mail. - TransporterMan (TALK) 14:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

DRN[edit]

Hi Wikishagnik, Thanks for your apology on my talk page after receiving an email from User:TransporterMan. I've left you a more complete message there if you care to read it. However, your continued presence and interference in the case in question, makes your apology a bit hollow. There are two cases awaiting moderation. Why don't you leave the case I am moderating,[3] and which you are undermining and disrupting, and take a case that needs a moderator? I don't get this. User:Steven Zhang (DRN volunteer coordinator) any comments on this issue? -- — Keithbob • Talk • 01:31, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Have to agree with Keithbob here. Sometimes more than one volunteer is needed when a dispute gets a bit out of hand, but I think Keithbob has this one down pat. I'd really encourage you to take on a case that needs another volunteer - drop me or one of the other DRN guys a line if you need some tips :). Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 11:12, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Wow! I really like the way User:Keithbob was all polite and diplomatic on his own talk page and chose to go caustic on mine. And User:Steven Zhang, you may feel that Keithbob has it down pat! but that really does not explain why the DRN about this song says Needs Attention for so long? --Wikishagnik (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

"Needs attention" is a case status that happens by default when the case has been opened for longer than a pre-detemined time. It doesn't necessarily mean that it needs more volunteers, but it is a guide for volunteers to see if it has been abandoned. In this case, Keith is still working on it, and it might be a situation where he can manage on his own, as he has indicated. There are other cases that do need assistance, perhaps you could look at one of those? Steven Zhang ^{Help resolve disputes!} 23:49, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikishagnik, I have to disagree with your comment that Kiethbob was being "caustic". The volunteer was being frank and honest. But I am very sure it was not meant to be mean spirited in any way. Sometimes too many cooks can spoil the broth.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:56, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Steven Zhang (talk · contribs), from my own R&D I feel this is an issue with Earwig Bot and its settings need to be tweaked, so that it does not red-flag a discussion in progress (even ones that threaten to go stale). Mark Miller (talk · contribs), in view of your opinion it would help me a lot personally if you can explain why Keithbob (talk · contribs) on his own talk page says Thanks for coming by and I sincerely appreciate your apology and hopefully we have both learned something from this while his comments on my talk page are not so friendly.--Wikishagnik (talk) 08:37, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Yes, as Steven explained this false status of Needs Attention is an issue that is currently being discussed on the DRN talk page. Meanwhile, If I sounded caustic, I apologize. Let me try again. What I am asking is if you could please leave the Hava Nagilla case and take up another case that has no moderator. That would diffuse this whole situation. Thanks, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 03:06, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Oops, I just looked at the DRN page and it appears that is what you are doing. Thanks again, -- — Keithbob • Talk • 03:19, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

DRN redux[edit]

I really like your opening statement on Oscar López Rivera.

I'd been thinking about that case overnight, considering taking it, so let me pass on a couple of ideas that you've probably thought of them already. So FWIW:

• They're throwing court cases and sentencing documents back and forth at one another. They need to be aware that those sources are not usable as reliable sources under BLPPRIMARY, which says in pertinent part:

  Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. ... Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies.

  (Emphasis added.)
• Just because a crime is officially classified under the law as a "violent crime" does not mean that all possible acts that can constitute the crime are necessarily physically violent, any more than the fact that Florida is officially referred to as the Sunshine State means that there is 100% sunshine there. When used that way, the term is a classification, not a definition.
• I was going to point them to the very specific language from SYN that:

  Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. If one reliable source says A, and another reliable source says B, do not join A and B together to imply a conclusion C that is not mentioned by either of the sources. This would be a synthesis of published material to advance a new position, which is original research. "A and B, therefore C" is acceptable only if a reliable source has published the same argument in relation to the topic of the article.

Just some ideas. Use 'em or lose 'em, take 'em or leave 'em, it's completely your call. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 13:48, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your ideas and yes, I will keep them, they are good. I will wait for the Wikiproject Criminal Biography to respond, as I will need some consensus about this. --Wikishagnik (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Thanks a ton --Wikishagnik (talk) 16:12, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

-- — Keithbob • Talk • 12:19, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Oscar Lopez Rivera[edit]

Thank you for the notice re the dispute resolution regarding Oscar Lopez Rivera. I have been researching the issue, and will be able to comment later tonight. Thanks again, Sarason (talk) 23:52, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

• PLEASE NOTE: I have just provided my comment in the dispute resolution for Oscar Lopez Rivera. [4]

Thank you. Sarason (talk) 04:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Bulldog[edit]

I understand that they maybe can't agree, but one possible solution could be that they all agree about not editing each others articles... that would be something, no? Before closing down... Hafspajen (talk) 19:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

That was a compromise solution offered, and it would have worked with good faith. I don't see that happening here.--Wikishagnik (talk) 01:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm actually fine with that. Let me know if that includes the Talk page. I still think some of the statements within the article are poorly worded, unsupported, or questionably supported, but I'll leave the editing of those sections to others.Ss 051 (talk) 13:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for trying, Wikishagnik. Let's just hope everyone takes a step back and cools down. SagaciousPhil - Chat 06:37, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

You mean Ss 051 and Freedombulls, or we all? Hafspajen (talk) 07:28, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Lets not go down the road to blaming individuals for the failure or success of a DRN. There is no rule or law that says all Wikipedia editors have to agree with consensus, and have to start editing the way others want them to edit. Remember, consensus does not mean a solution that makes everyone happy, it is simply something that everyone can live with. So, if editors stop themselves from making changes that go against the consensus, it's enough. Also understand that not agreeing to what is being said in a discussion, does not imply disruptive editing. All Wikipedia editors are entitled to their own opinions and I personally respect that. Admin blocks and such work best when there is a strong presence of disruptive editing such as 3RR, plagiarism etc. and simply sticking to your point of view in a discussion is not on that list. I hope I have been able to address all your concerns. For now, lets assume good faith and I wish happy editing to all Wikipedia editors (even those who don't agree with me).--Wikishagnik (talk) 09:58, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Abdullah Abbas[edit]

A tag has been placed on Abdullah Abbas requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Daisaku Ikeda DRN discussion[edit]

I saw your comments at the DRN discussion above. This comment isn't going to be much (if any) help, and I regret that. But particularly for a lot of topics of this nature, relating to current events and/or people that are subjects of contentious discussion in the few reliable sources we can find which do discuss them, sometimes the best thing to do at least in the short term might be to try to establish as much as possible what potential articles have the established notability to exist and see what encyclopedic content might be relevant enough for inclusion in them. This will still unfortunately lead to some questions regarding the amount of weight to give the potential subtopics in the main article, but where spinout can be achieved it tends to reduce the contentiousness of the discussion. Sometimes, anyway. And, particularly for topics like this which tend to be covered primarily in foreign language (in this case Japanese) sources, seeing if there is any way to find people who are comparatively expert in what are and are not so much reliable sources in those languages to take part in the discussion would probably help. I, of course, don't know a damn thing about Japan or Japanese culture, and I wish that weren't the case.

Anyway, like I said, it probably isn't much help, if any, but maybe it might be of some. John Carter (talk) 00:25, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

John Carter (talk · contribs) seems to know an awful lot about this dispute for someone who yesterday (JST) was accusing me of being involved with it and forum-shopping it to ANI, going so far as to pretend to confuse Daisaku Ikeda with Kenji Miyazawa... was it really just an accident, I wonder... Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 10:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you both for your views. We as DRN volunteers take every dispute seriously and address issues as they are presented. Yes, the article does pose a challenge but articles are edited for long periods of time (sometimes by hundreds of editors) and issues like article size, reliable sources etc. get addressed and resolved by more than one individual. Its important to stay calm and focused on what we do best all times. --Wikishagnik (talk) 17:30, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

TY for your effort at Hava Nagila[edit]

I think you could largely redact and summarize the use of the song at football matches, because this section extends far beyond the importance of the matter. If you have good sources for the article, it is also still lacking in that regard. (Though I added some today, the article and two sections still demanded "ref improve" tags.) Cheers. Le Prof 71.201.62.200 (talk) 02:50, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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