Talk:Aspen Education Group


I want to call attention to my recent edits to the article. My name on Wikipedia is "Frog One" but my real name is Tom Croke. I was quoted in the article by someone else. The quotation was valid when posted but things have changed and it came to my attention that out of date information was being used to damage schools and programs that have been sold and have no connection with Aspen or its present owners, CRC and Bain Capital. Others are welcome to jump in on this and edit my edit. On one hand I was uncomfortable editing a reference to me. On the other hand the out of date information should not be used to damage the innocent. Frog one (talk) 17:14, 10 June 2014 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have been dismayed by the edit of this article that turned it into an advertisement for Aspen. This creates the appearance that the article has been revised to its present status by someone on Aspen's payroll. The excuse stated in discussion at the time that happened was that previous comments inserted under controversy were not "encyclopedic." However the sales brochure we have now is not encyclopedic. The statement under the controversy statement implying that the objections to Aspen are essentially the same as at other programs in this field is blatantly misleanding. I agree that the person using the word "detainees" is also far from NPOV on the other side.

The present article misstates that Jim Dredge is president. Actually Jim "resigned" (Aspen's code word for fired with severance pay) effective October 2009 after he tried to clean up some of the problems and sought a squeaky clean ethical platform. Apparently the managers at CRC Health Group and Bain Capital did not see things that way.

I'm not planning to make changes in the article itself, and get into an editing war with the Aspen minion who put this in place. But the criticisms of marketing practices, closing of New Leaf North Carolina abandoning kids in midstream, program license actions for cause by the state of Oregon (resulting in closing of two programs), etc. clearly raise issues about Aspen programs that someone is trying to hide.

I hope the Wikipedia brass will take a look at the editor who placed this article in its present form. It is transparently an Aspen inside job.

Although my four tilde signature won't show it, I am an educational consultant, Tom Croke. You can find me at www.familylight.com. Keeping track of this stuff is my career. Rmagick is correct in objecting to NPOV issues where people use words like "detainees" but the bias on the other side is just as blatant.