Talk:Grappling hold


When describing a term in Japanese, please don't use the phrase 'in budo' it is called sei o nage (or what ever}. Budo is not a language!!! Bu-Do (Bu=warrior/Do=The way of), therefore Budo is a philosophy not a language. All weapons, techniques and philosophies derived from Jujutsu/Judo/Aikido/Karate have Japanese names, not Budo names. Come on, it makes us westeners look stupid when we make ignorant mistakes about Japanese matters.

The "kimura" is named after the great fighter, and the "americano" is above the waist (equator). Does "uma plata" literally mean "on a silver plate?" Rorybowman 08:00, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've now merged submission hold, pinning hold, pain compliance hold, and clinching hold into this article; all of the links in all articles linking to these have been redirected to the appropriate sections in this article. This one needs to be cleaned up a bit though; ordering and structuring according to type. Unfortunately i had to remove some pictures(temporarily hopefully) when the layout for messy. ---Marcus- 15:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Given that Kodokan udo has some of the most consistent and sophisticated terminology on this, is it worth it to try and show a correspondence here or should that be a subsection in judo or a separate article such as Judo hold?

Hmm... What about adding the judo holds under their corresponding positions or types? In judo there are several pinning holds that are performed from for instance the sidemount; so they could be added as techniques there. Joint locking or choking techniques under their types or separate articles on for instance joint-locks. But atleast I don't think it should be integrated into the article on judo or in a separate judo holds, since other gi martial arts use them as well, and some even use the japanese terms for them. For instance, i wrote an article about neck cranks, and when applicable, i added the japanese(judo) term for the technique too. ---Marcus- 09:26, 1 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

On the semi-suggestion of -Marcus- I have created a new stub for Judo techniques, using a site which draws on current Kodokan teaching rather than trying to incorporate all budo. - Rorybowman 04:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]