Talk:Kingdom of Benin


I have a question, perhaps someone can respond. I read the history of the Kingdom Of Benin, not to be confused with modern "Benin", If the Beni were the original inhabitants of the area, when did the Ogosi (referred to as "Kings from the Sky" )come to rule over them and how exactly did that happen? I have a special interest in this topic as it is said that my fmailies line goes back to the kingdom of Benin. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.21.163.159 (talkcontribs) 14:15, 21 October 2006.I have a question (pls reply quickly I need it for an exam ) what are the dynasties of Benin?

how in the hell did this article fall so far. i reverted it back to the last version that was READABLE. Yeah I know that's insulting. Frankly, I don't care. The Benin Empire deserves a better page than what it got. I'mah keep my eye on this page. To all those offended, please see wiki's NPOV guidelines. This page was written horribly and any wiki editor worth his or her salt would agree. And the page is about the STATE not just the origin or multiple origin theories. I wouldn't be so p!ssed except that a lot of important stuff was removed. Aaarrhhhh!Scott Free 04:56, 20 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What's this obsession with everyone referring to everything from Benin, or more generally, Africa, as Ceremonial. Look up ancient African Weapons, and the curators and sellers always describe the stuff as "ceremonial" or "used as currency", as if the Africans had no potent military capabilities. What this article doesn't even begin to TOUCH is the fact that the Benin Empire could mobilize up to 35,000 bronze clad warriors in a number of days, and there's a reason for which Benin grew from being a kingdom to an Empire. Military strength. That one pic is definitely of two warriors - carrying umozos, if my terminology is correct - visit http://deposit.ddb.de/cgi-bin/dokserv?idn=964084686&dok_var=d1&dok_ext=pdf&filename=964084686.pdf If all they used were ceremonial swords, then what did they fight their enemies with? Their fists? This is just another attempt to depict Africans as unpractical and petty. I went on the "Capoeira" page (a martial art developed by black slaves in Brazil) and this one dude kept trying to prove that it was first developed as a dance and was not a legitimate "martial art" and described it as "Slave mock-fight dancing" - clearly a derogatory description, which is not true, as people fight and kill with it... anyhow, people are always trying to depict African achievements as petty and impotent, by downgrading their significance and practicality. The claim that a Kushite Queen fended off her Kingdom against Alexander the Great is deemed "legendary" by these famous Wikipedia scholars, the Nubian army deemed uneffective with not substantial evidence - people have made a living off of downgrading black achievements, and there are tons of them out there who live for this bs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktheconjurer (talkcontribs) 05:10, 22 March 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

according to most of the information I have read about the kindom of benin, (Jacob egharevba, Paula gershick ben amos. The ogisos rule started sometime between 800 and 900ad aand ended btweed 1070 and 1370 ad. This makes the kingdom at least 200 years older that mentioned in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.176.193 (talk) 22:53, 29 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The remark about the ogisos may be true but at any rate Benin (accoring to this article becomes an empire in the 12th century, during the middle ages. Why does it say early modern period under the historical era when it should say middle ages? the early modern period begins in the 16th century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.228.155 (talk) 06:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]