Talk:Megali Idea


The article is a target for fanatic POVs. It is becoming anti-Greek propaganda. Phrases like "Greece did not manage to occupy Smyrna, Imbros, and Tenedos from Turkey" or "she also was not capable to occupy southern Albania" from user 213.100.205.98 are POVs, undocumented and horrible English language. --Spryom 10:57, 20 July 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The image in the top-right is not the Megali Idea. The true Megali idea would have included the Dodacanese/Rhodes/Megisti (currently Greek), southwestern Asia Minor, full control of Cyprus and the straits, and also northern Epirus, northern Macedonia, and Pontis. The image shown here is merely territory that the Treaty of Sevres declared to be "Greece".

The whole article needs to be reworked. In my opinion there is only a weak link between recognition of borders with Albania and the Great Idea. In other words was the Great Idea the driving force behind belligerency and non-recognition of borders? Moreover, the whole term 'Great Idea' is associated in most historic accounts to the pre-World War I, Greek foreign policy. Is it justified to call every expansionist or revisionist attempt of Greek-Foreign Policy, irrespective of the ruling regime (republic-dictatorship) 'megaloideatic'? A propos Cyprus, it could be as well be called 'right-wing extremist policy'. Is there any special theory in international relations that provides that any maximalist tendency in Greek foreign-political objectives is to be characterised as 'megaloideatic'? To sum up,does hypothesizing about links between the Albanian borders and Megaloideatic beliefs, promote our understanding of modern greek foreign policy? I have contributed these questions in the discussion and would expect new entries and adaptations made in the article to reflect solid evidence or at least a sound argumentation on the issue, and not abstract or even corrupt clauses as it is now.Donnerstag 15:13, 23 January 2006 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Probably not, because more than 90% of Macedonia is wqithin Greece's borders. There is a separate page about the name controversey...

The picture is wrong. The map is not the Megali Idea. The Megali Idea included nearly what once Byzantium posessed. The Map is about "Greece of two Continents and five Seas" a country which no more exists.User:panosfidis

I'm not sure whether or not this is public domain, but if you scoot on over to http://www.geocities.com/t_volunteer/greece/megali_idea.htm you will find a proper map of the Megli Idea. Ignore the text underneath it though, it's all racist propaganda!! Any wiki member should be able to upload it to this page, we hope.


The expansion of Greece from 1832 to 1947, showing territories awarded to Greece by the Treaty of Sèvres but lost in 1923 under the Treaty of Lausanne (click to enlarge).
Megali Idea according to me
Enlarge to see regions of the eastern borders