User:Lourdes/Talk archive

) See you around. Lourdes ( talk) 03:21, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks very much

I certainly will - it's not every day that one is awarded oneself. :-) You are very kind, and I am most grateful - thanks very much, and I look forward to displaying it (him? Me?) on my shelf for some time to come. :-)

As always, happy editing!--Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:02, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :-) Lourdes ( talk) 03:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Pseudo-educational television listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Pseudo-educational television. Since you had some involvement with the Pseudo-educational television redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Jeh (talk) 09:37, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Ouch my toes are burining

Ah, I always took A11 to only cover articles which include an explicit claim about the writer having invented the thing, the furthest edge case being somebody having a suspiciously connected username. Does it really stretch as far as "does not seem to exist, therefore the editor must have made it up"? The user could plausibly have misremembered the name of a cocktail, or been served a known cocktail under a new name. (I did search around to see if there were any likely candidates for either, but didn't find anything.) --McGeddon (talk) 19:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi McGeddon. The A11 policy does not mention "explicitly claims" but notes "plainly indicates". In other words, a plain reading should indicate... The policy does not restrict itself to invention. It mentions discovery too, by the author or by someone close to them. The policy also links to Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not for things made up one day, which explicitly mentions a "pub" as being one of the possible places such things can come about. You have a much wider experience in this area than I have. As much as I can interpret, that the author has created a term and a usage that does not have even one search link on Google, could mean that the author is alluding to something they've made up – or they are promoting a hoax. And the fact is, there is no credible claim of significant notability that the author has placed. You advise me on how this should be handled. Thanks for discussing. Lourdes ( talk) 19:39, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I've always read the "plainly indicates" as meaning that a neutral reader would agree from a plain reading of the article (with no further research beyond perhaps the username of the creator) that the subject was clearly coined by the writer. It's " an article which plainly indicates" - the article itself has to do the indication, and anything that relies on external research (whether it's "no Google results" or "username is an anagram of a pseudonym of the cousin of a writer who admitted on a radio show that he invented Burining Toe Vodka on the night of the murder") should be discussed somewhere before we toss it out.

Mileage may vary, though, I've never really seen these distinctions picked apart anywhere. -- McGeddon ( talk) 20:50, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

McGeddon thanks for your clarification. If these are the clarifications that represent the established A11 application, then this should be mentioned clearly in the A11 policy page. In the meanwhile, I have nominated the article at the AFD. Once I get time, I'll put up a note for clarification on the A11 at the appropriate page to ensure that the policy is represented appropriately. Thanks for giving so much time for the clarifications. Lourdes ( talk) 05:58, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh, this is just my personal take on what A11 means, I don't intend to speak on behalf of any kind of consensus. It looks like there's been some related discussion in the past here, for what it's worth. -- McGeddon ( talk) 09:54, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the inputs. And at the AFD too. 03:54, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

No problem! And feel free to rename this section however you like, it was just a joke based on the article title typo. -- McGeddon ( talk) 09:33, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi

If you find time for it please take a look at the article about Margareta Hallin that I have created. Any help is appreciated.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:33, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Yo! Will! Lourdes ( talk) 07:44, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Answer

I see the effort which you are part as well, to hide truth and show only one side in war. Probably you work for someone because your actions are illogical. Why you don't delete articles like Foca massacre, Visegrad massacres, Prijedor massacre etc. I will never give up to write articles with sources. Knightserbia (talk) 21:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC) Knightserbia

You mistake my efforts Kinghtserbia. I had marked your article for deletion because of the fact that I felt you were writing about the Bosnian War and much was already written in the Bosnian War article. Another administrator redirected the article, which led me to request for a deletion of the redirect as the title of your article, in my belief, is not adhering to Wikipedia WP:NPOV policy. I hope this answers what you are asking. Lourdes ( talk) 07:43, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

V Prabhakaran

On the Velupillai Prabhakaran page there were two death dates mentioned May 18 and May 19. The reference 16, BBC report was written on May 18th. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aruppillai (talk • contribs) 22:42, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I will check that out. Than you for pointing that out. Lourdes ( talk) 07:43, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Cottalango Leon

about 2015 Sejong and Hwaseong shootings

Hi, I got around to revising the 2015 Sejong and Hwaseong shootings article, per its AFD, but I am not sure how to characterize news coverage of the incidents and the gun control measure that it led to. Was the point that there was wide coverage in South Korea (all major news organizations there) or internationally or both? Your attention to the article would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, if you can help. Otherwise, hope you're doing well. You were very good-natured in that AFD. Cheers, --doncram 02:39, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edmund Wainwright

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Your GA nomination of Edmund Wainwright

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Your GA nomination of Cottalango Leon

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Your GA nomination of Cottalango Leon

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Italicization discussion request

If I turn my question at MOS into an RFC, would you mind if I removed your comment there? I would of course point out the helpdesk discussion, but leaving your comment there seems like it would discourage participation at the MOS Talk since it might be read as, “Go over there instead.” Won’t touch it without your say-so, though. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 06:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

• No problems. Go ahead and feel free to remove. Lourdes (talk) 13:32, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Sour Sally (New)

Sorry, that's my new article in wiki. Didn't know wiki can react so fast. I am trying to add the founder.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/11/23/indonesia.young.rich/ he is named Donny Pramono — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bomber950 (talk • contribs) 15:17, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

You've done a good job on adding the name. Just get the English flow correct in the article and you're good to go. Lourdes ( talk) 19:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rahul Thakkar

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Brendan Dassey

Thank you very much for your assistance , seriously so appreciated!

I have been watching the video tutorials on citations and when I went in this evening I was astounded.

Many thanks

Tracy Symonds-Keogh (talk) 11:17, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

• Tracy Symonds-Keogh no problems. Ping me if you need more help. Lourdes (talk) 11:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Lourdes. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Optional RfA candidate poll.
Message added 12:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thanks for the criticism, I've tried to explain my actions in a reply. Hope that clears anything up. Anarchyte (work | talk) 12:09, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Sparkadia

Just to let you know (if you don't already) the Ed. concerned asked for assistance at the help desk. Eagleash (talk) 17:29, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes. Thanks for leaving this note too. Lourdes ( talk) 17:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Benshida

Other than User:Benshida's original hoax article, is there anything to link the nickname Benshida to the eventual target of the redirects Francis Benjamin? None of the 4 links given in the article support its use. I feel, as a result of all your corrections, and the resulting redirects, it ought to be G6'd. Regards, for (;;) (talk) 11:13, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

• Do It.. Lourdes (talk) 11:17, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thanks, for (;;) (talk) 11:32, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Another museum infobox question

You helped me with my earlier question about adding CEO to the museum infobox, so I thought that I'd ask you about this one. I've run across several articles that put 'admission=free' in their infobox, and it's causing an unsupported parameter warning. Is this a reasonable thing to add to the template? Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 21:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Here's an example, if you want one, Hafnarborg. Leschnei ( talk) 21:02, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Thinking about this some more, maybe admission shouldn't be added, since it tends to be outdated quickly. Kind of like 'telephone' which I've also seen, Khon Kaen National Museum. Leschnei ( talk) 21:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

Leschnei I guess you're right. If you want my assistance on anything else in the future, don't hesitate to leave a note. Lourdes ( talk) 11:14, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

The question I'm left with is what to do with the unsupported parameters. Things like 'admission' could be moved to the text, but what about items like 'image_size'? Should they just be removed or should we leave them and ignore the big ugly warning at the top of the page? Thanks for your help, Leschnei ( talk) 12:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

We should remove them. Inboxes tend to generally control image sizes themselves. Articles should be free of warning messages :) Lourdes ( talk) 12:12, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Great, thanks again. Leschnei ( talk) 13:27, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rahul Thakkar

The article Rahul Thakkar you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Rahul Thakkar for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Carbrera -- Carbrera (talk) 23:01, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way to request to see the previous deleted page so it can be rewritten to meet the policies and guidelines? Missbee4 (talk) 04:32, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for explaining the reason that my edit was deleted. I missed the closing by 8 minutes! Not a problem at all. One more comment on the Rfa would not have made a difference. How courteous you are! I'm coming back with a barnstar-especially if there is one for graciousness. The Very Best of Regards,

Barbara (WVS) ( talk) 10:23, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lourdes ( talk) 10:25, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Rahul Thakkar

The article Rahul Thakkar you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rahul Thakkar for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Carbrera -- Carbrera (talk) 04:21, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your help on the help desk, Xander. Julie Hamill (talk) 12:48, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you Julie Hamill. Do remember that the article can be deleted if editors do not consider your biography notable. Thanks. Lourdes (talk) 13:16, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851

Sorry for the delay in replying, I'm a little busy at the moment. I see the FAC is now closed, but I'm more than happy to help if I can. It might take me a few days, but I'll start to have a look; it will probably be easier if I copy-edit directly if necessary, and I'll post any queries onto the article talk page. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:04, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

• That will be wonderful . Whenever you can edit directly onto the article, please do go ahead. Your assistance would be invaluable. Thank you so much for chipping in, whenever you can. Lourdes 18:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Y So Serious: Speedy Deletion Template

Hi Xender,

This is my first article and not sure what am I doing wrong. I did read the article on writing first article and tried my best to write the article as per guidelines. If the article can be corrected then I will do so, else I will delete the article. Request you to provide some help in this regard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nitinbadkar (talk • contribs) 09:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

• Hello Nitinbadkar. Please read the guideline Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). Wikipedia can have only notable organisations and not others. Read the guideline first. In summary, it would tell you to prove notability of the organisation by citing reliable sources independent of the organisation which have covered the organisation (for example, if you have news reports which have covered the company in-depth, put them within the article using citaitons|). Do you need any other help? Do not hesitate to ask. Lourdes 09:34, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Best Reference Books List for IBPS PO, Clerk & SO Online Exams -Speedy deletion

Adijain.Studycopter (talk) 08:33, 13 July 2016 (UTC) Hi Lourde s, I guess the flag has been raised due to the external links which i have removed now. Please review the page.If the issue is still there, please guide me what to do as i am a newcomer to Wikipedia. Thank you.

Adijain.Studycopter hello. I am replying on the talk page of the article. Thanks. Lourdes 08:46, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lourdes, Please reply me on talk page of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adijain.Studycopter (talk • contribs) 09:11, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Lourdes, one final message sent to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adijain.Studycopter (talk • contribs) 09:38, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Completed. Could you please paste here how to get a new user name. the two ways. Registering a new name i know. The second method i want to know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adijain.Studycopter (talk • contribs) 09:59, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

• Here you go: Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. If you need more assistance in any area, feel free to ask. Lourdes 10:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

About Q5/Q9 of that RfA (applying 30-500 as admin action)

In my view, that is a bit of a loaded question. On the surface it is 100% legit and fair. However, there is quite a bit of community drama around this new restriction (in case you did not know, see e.g. here). I stayed away of the kitchen, but I have felt the heat between the "good, that is a useful intermediary PP step between autoconfirmed and full protection, let's go and use this" camp and the "ArbCom has opened the Pandora box and I would rather admins use full protection / no protection at all" camp.

I feel that no matter how the candidate answers this, they are bound to alienate a few regulars. Or maybe the objective was precisely to see if they lurk enough around the community noticeboards to smell a trap and give an evasive answer? Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:46, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

• Tigraan, how lovely to see you here. Damn you're right; it's a loaded question, as are situations admins face. Unfortunately, the answer to the question (5) is wrong (in my opinion) and doesn't display the thinking that I expected. It's unfortunate that the candidate could choose to invoke IAR, almost flippantly it seems. An administrator should know when to, and most importantly when not to, pull the trigger... Nevertheless, he's a model editor, as I've mentioned on the Rfa. And I expect him to learn as he goes. Lourdes 17:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

• And now, Jo-Jo has done a reverse, answering #9 with aplomb and showing his maturity to consider alternative answers. So I guess all's well that's answered well. Lourdes 02:54, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

I completely agree with that answer, but I fear people might oppose just because he took the other side in the 300-500 dispute (no matter how well-reasoned it is, and no matter that an existing admin would never ever get desysopped for that, even if doing so on a regular basis).

Just to clarify, I am not against trick questions in themselves - for instance "user X has done such and such actions of vandalism, user Y such and such, user Z this and that, who do you block and for how long" leaving out important information such as user warnings - but that particular one has no good answer now (it might have one in a year). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:36, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Precious

helpful insight with a pun

Thank you for quality articles such as Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851, Rahul Thakkar and William Walker (Australian cricketer), for your activity at the help desk and promoting its idea, for notifying users of unconstructive editing, for insight with a pun, - Lourdes, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

Thank you Gerda . This is unexpected. It's very sweet of you. Thank you. Lourdes 16:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

You have probably no idea how much you spoke my mind ;) - compare, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:08, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

Wow. You're right. But there's a critical difference, that Rob doesn't have any past history with Wikipedia :):) Nevertheless, you're so right on the essence of the meaning. Thank you. Lourdes 00:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The image and message that speak my mind and soul were created for another user, actually the photographer of the Yogo sapphire, see the small print below. Very soon I used it for the creator, even successfully so, - for a while. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:29, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. PumpkinSky is lucky to have such a beautiful memento. Lourdes 08:43, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Still sad, that he was unblocked after months and wrote the sapphire article and Kafka, only to be frustrated about a failed RfA (which was termed an attack page) and Grace Sherwood not returned to the Main page, on top of unfairness in general. - He told me I was awesome in 2010 ( Rlevse then), and I remember the feeling. He ran the prize for years, and even passed a few as PumpkinSky. - I mused about the cabal of the outcasts recently, which perhaps needs to change the label ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:47, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, if it's known as QAI, then there's no need to continue the reference to cabal of outcasts :) Labels really don't matter. If you're having fun interacting with people, and are able to handle the putdown comments that come your way, then it's cool going I guess. Will send you a song one of these days that I wrote. You'll like it. Lourdes 10:07, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Lovely! - The reference is of course still adequate, with two founding members not active because we didn't treat them well, but I made up my mind to stay, fairness or rather often not, in 2012, - see a red cat on my user page. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 10:17, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

I actually don't see a red cat . Where is it? Lourdes 15:14, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

red category, bottom, 2 of them, nothing compared to Floq (where I found one), -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:57, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh yes. Category. Red means a lotta things to me :D Lourdes 16:16, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

... and cats to me -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:19, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Zwsp

Think you will like this kind of ping: [[User:BUNNYBUNNY|{{Zwsp}}]] :) Sam Sailor ^Talk! 20:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks ​:) Lourdes 03:13, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

The Crow Award!

		Crow Award
		Crow has given you The Official Crow Award! I was perusing the current RFA, reading all the supports and opposes, and your participation struck me as impressive: even though you were (at the time) opposing, you still defended the candidate from other opposes that seemed unfair or grounded in incorrect assumptions. To me that shows integrity, so I just wanted to tip my proverbial hat! CrowCaw 18:27, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Crow, that is very sweet of you. And that is such a uniquely designed award. I've seen it for the first time. Thank you. I think I'll have to have many years of consistent behavior under my belt to qualify on integrity. I also think part of the reason I changed my oppose was because of the manner in which the other opposers were criticizing Vandamonde's editorial contributions. But that's a discussion for another day. Today, it's the Crow award. Yay! And thanks again! A drink on me when you're around next. Lourdes 01:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Ayrton Senna

He drove cars, didn't he? Think I've heard of him. :-) (I'm not much of a sports person - I'm doing well to recognize that there's a difference between Formula 1, NASCAR, and local highway driving.)

Congratulations - I haven't managed any featured content yet. Something for me to aspire to, one of these days...

Keep up the good work, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:06, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your sweet words. Will see you around. Lourdes 14:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Featured list

Many congratulations. You are clearly an exceptionally skillful and hardworking editor and a very courteous and fair-minded individual. Well done. Johnlp (talk) 20:34, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Johnlp, I've learnt with considerable help from editors like you, that's why a handful are on my thoughts (including you) when I achieve something here. Thanks. Lourdes 00:51, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audra Mari (2nd nomination)

Wondering what your rationale for relisting Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Audra Mari (2nd nomination) is given 3 keep votes and no delete votes? Is there a threshold of number of votes it needs? --- PageantUpdater (talk) 22:11, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

PageantUpdater hello. Thanks for dropping in. Let me first share with you what I think of the article. I think the article is on its way to pass GNG easily. Sources like this which go into the subject's background, are very good. There is a significant probability of multiple such sources coming up. So yes, my personal option is to keep the article.

Now to the Afd. The first keep editor mentions Vanity Fair and Phillstar as reliable sources (and claims that therefore the article passes GNG). The Vanity Fair article has the following mention about the subject: " Miss North Dakota, Audra Mari, plays hockey and says her life struggles include her car getting egged by bullies during high school. That’s it? Her high-school bullies were the same as the ones Drew Barrymore dealt with in Never Been Kissed. #TheStruggleIsNotReal." And the Philtstar reference had the following: " Audra Mari (left), a 5’10” 22-year-old Fil-Am from North Dakota, was crowned 2016 Miss World America July 8 in Maryland, USA, beating 27 other finalists. She will represent the USA in the 2016 Miss World to be held in Washington, D.C. in December. Regning queen is Mireia Lalaguna Royo of Spain. Audra is a Dean’s List student at the North Dakota State University, taking up Public Relations and Communications. In 2011, she was crowned Miss North Dakota Teen USA and first runner-up in the national pageant. In 2014, she was crowned Miss North Dakota USA and placed first runner-up in the 2014 Miss USA pageant." Both are insignificant newsy mentions and if the editor has based his GNG analysis on the same, then the editor's !vote is bound to be discounted despite the editor mentioning that the subject won a national competition (that's not enough for a keep !vote; perhaps it would have been better if the editor had listed down two significant coverages in support of his GNG assertion).

Given that, I think it's just a matter of interpretation of the nominator's delete assertion and your and another editor's keep assertion, leading me to relist the Afd. Hope that sounds good to you. Do ask for any other clarification, if you want. Ciao. Lourdes 02:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. --- PageantUpdater ( talk) 16:22, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

I think this was a bad close. I think 70-80% of admins would have closed that as keep. pbp 14:02, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Sure. You probably meant bad re-list. I can't say whether admins would have closed this as keep; I can say that if the particular Afd !voter continues to refer to newsy articles to support GNG claims, such !votes will regularly keep getting discounted at Afds by experienced administrators. You should probably sound the particular editor off about this viewpoint; that would be more helpful. In any case, now that you have a multiplicity of delete !votes, I suspect the next week too would see another re-list. I hope to assist you in any other clarification, if there is. Lourdes 14:06, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Please Stop

Hi.

I don't know who you are but I am not trying to be a bad person to you or Magnolia677. Please stop threatening me. I was always assuming good faith. Those articles were around for 15 minutes before I added them for speedy deletion. You have speedy deleted articles within minutes. Should I report you to ANI for that? Please stop.

I am sure you are nice. I don't appreciate being threatened. If you want to have a civil discussion I am all for it.

Thanks JLOPO (talk) 07:47, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi JLOPO. I am continuing the discussion on your page as that is the main thread. Lourdes 07:48, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia email re NewspaperArchive signup

Hello. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Thanks HazelAB. Lourdes 01:49, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library: Emerald

You should have received an email a few days ago, providing a link for completing the Wikipedia:Emerald access that you requested. However, you don't appear to have completed the form yet, so this message is to check whether there is any communication breakdown? AllyD (talk) 11:37, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

• Hi AllyD. No, not at all. No communications breakdown. I had actually kept this weekend aside for making all the registrations (as I had applied for a few other repositories too). I hope that's not a problem. Thank you so much for checking back on me. Lourdes 15:35, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

delete/speedy

[1] thank you for pointing it out I was creating archive pages for the first time yesterday, sorry.... and thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:21, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

EUP

You should have received an email about Edinburgh access - if you're still interested, could you please complete the linked form? Nikkimaria (talk) 19:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

• Done Nikkimaria. Just a note. I was also hoping to get the access to JSTOR too (I've already left a note on the page). It would be wonderful as their journals are also very insightful. Thanks much for the message. Lourdes 23:54, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

• Unfortunately that partnership is pending renewal so it's going to be at least a little while longer before new accounts can be handed out there. For the interim, not sure if you're aware, but they have a limited free-reading program, plus of course you can request individual articles at WP:RX. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:04, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you. I'll keep that in mind and hope the partnership is renewed. You have always been a great help. Thanks. Lourdes 00:07, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia Library

Hi Lourdes, Could you please let me know if you still want access to the IMF and World Bank Wikipedia accounts? -- haminoon (talk) 22:08, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Hello Haminoon. I've sent the form. Thanks so much for the access. It would be really helpful. Lourdes 23:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Mary Foulke Morrisson

You closed this as keep at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mary Foulke Morrisson but the template appears to have been inadvertently left behind on the article page. I'd delete it myself but anon IP's apparently can't. Thanks in advance for taking care of this. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 16:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

24.151.10.165 hello and thanks. I have corrected the same. The script malfunctioned because of an image inserted between the Afd notice and the article note. Any which way, done. And thanks once more. Lourdes 18:26, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Bhalchandra Dattatray Mondhe

On 3 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bhalchandra Dattatray Mondhe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at age 78, Bhalchandra Dattatray Mondhe was awarded the Padma Shri for his lifetime work in photography? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bhalchandra Dattatray Mondhe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bhalchandra Dattatray Mondhe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Recent redirect creations

I see you have recently created redirects such as Incorrect Facts and Gangnam Facts etc. but most of them seem to be unconstructive. I have list Incorrect Facts for speedy deletion according to A11. I'm sure you noticed that, so I question your action to remove it and put an unnecessary redirect (in my opinion, no offense). These two also were made by Herbie497 so I question a "coincidence" that he/she made both the articles for speedy deletion which you made to a redirect. AK (the love story) is also inappropriate according to R3 of the WP:CSD since "(the love story)" is often not used especially in Wikipedia itself, as it is an uncommon term. Please don't take this as a sign of aggression. Just curiosity going to my mind. Your welcome | Democratics ^Talk→ Be a guest 13:27, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

• Well first of all hello Democratics. The redirects are plausible redirects in my opinion. Yet, please feel free to revert my redirects as you may wish. If there's anything else I can help you in, please don't hesitate. Lourdes 13:30, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Reply. I am now considering the redirects. Thanks for your acknowledgement.Your welcome | Democratics ^Talk→ Be a guest 13:33, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

AfD Closures

Hey Lourdes! Just a heads up here that AfDs like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mia Ikumi where there is very participation, are usually closed as "No consensus with WP:NPASR". In this case for example, with the nominator arguing a delete, and two participants going for a "keep" (one was actually a weak keep), the notability isn't very clear per WP:NRVE. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:59, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deering Banjo Company and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffry Life for example should have been relisted to at least give the nominator and other participants to reply. 2 !votes are usually never enough for a clear keep. -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 05:03, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Lemongirl942 and welcome to my talk page :) Thanks for the note. I understand your view. You are perhaps mistaken on the following grounds (mistaken, with due respects, not with any intention to put down your note, for which I am absolutely thankful):

• The nominator did not push a delete !vote. The actual nom statement is as follows: "Manga artist who authored on Licca-chan and illustrated on Tokyo Mew Mew. Although Koi Cupid was recently PROD'ed, is her article still worth keeping around?" The nominator is unsure.
• After two re-lists and one keep !vote in each re-list, and the nominator or any other editor failing to provide counter argument to any of the keep comments (both based on guidelines), the way to read this Afd is perhaps not that the nom argued a delete and two participants went for keep. It is perhaps that an unsure nomination was made and both comments after three weeks of listing went for keep.
• With respect to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deering Banjo Company and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffry Life, perhaps you mistake the number of keep votes as being equivalent to consensus. If the keep votes are policy and guideline based and there has been absolutely no argument either by the nominator or by any other editor against the policy and guideline based keep votes, the Afd may be closed given the evident consensus.

• Therefore, my closes remain Keep (with npasr in specific cases). At the same time, I have no prejudice against re-opening/re-listing the Afds in case you so wish. Please do tell. Hope this makes good to you? Thanks and do please ping me if you need any further clarification. Lourdes 05:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

A delete vote is not always obvious, AfD is not solely for deleting - often it is the only venue where article are brought to decide what to do: clear delete as not notable/redirect/merge or TNT due to the content. The strength of the arguments is important as well, in contrast to the number of arguments. I don't see any of the "keep" votes arguing a definite keep. This is a perfect candidate for no consensus. Would you be willing to change it to No Consensus? -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 05:22, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

In Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffry Life for example, the second !vote is dubious and the third !vote actually references WP:TNT. When you say "keep. ...pending lack of opposition from the nominator or other editors to the keep comments", it is actually a candidate for relisting. Maybe I can ask another for a third opinion from Sandstein who regularly closes AfDs. -- Lemongirl942 ( talk) 05:31, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

• As I said earlier too Lemongirl942, while I believe your view is different from mine and perhaps mistaken in interpreting the comments in the Afd and the sequence in which the comments are given (e.g. to stereotype IP votes as being dubious and assuming TNT refers to deleting, shows mistakes in understanding the basis of aspects in Afd), I am perfectly okay with you overruling my close. Please go ahead and change the Afds to whichever route you wish them to take (be closed as no consensus/re-listed). I would not have any issues in that (while I stand per my closes). Good to talk to you. Come back for anything else too. Lourdes 05:37, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you for being so gracious about it. Since I pinged Sandstein already, maybe it would be good to hear their perspective as well, before overruling any closes or relisting. I have !voted extensively on AfDs but hardly closed any, so I guess a third opinion is best here, just in case my interpretation is different from the community consensus. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:49, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, boy

Sorry about that! :$ Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

• Oh please Yoninah you don't have to say sorry. It's wonderful work you are doing at the dyk desk and this is absolutely nothing. In fact, thank you for prepping up the article and for other fixes. Lourdes 01:09, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Daud Junbish

On 7 October 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Daud Junbish, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the BBC's Daud Junbish is one of the few journalists in the world to have met former Taliban chief Mullah Omar? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Daud Junbish. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Daud Junbish), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Edit on First Atomic bomb Page

Hello, I just created a new page called first atomic bomb and added some information about a highly contaminated area in Rajasthan where scientists believe an Atomic bomb occurred. When I visited the page after I few minutes it showed you reviewed the page and redirected it back to Trinity test. I know that it's the first Atomic bomb but can you move the details I first typed on the First Atomic bomb page to a new page, such as First Atom bomb theory. I would appreciate your help. Thanks Wikiahelper123456789 (talk) 14:28, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

• Hello Wikiahelper123456789 and welcome to Wikipedia. The contents that you wrote are there in the history of the said page. You can copy those contents and use a draft page to create the relevant article. In my personal opinion, what you are writing is purely original research which cannot be verified using reliable sources. Therefore, if you create an article without sourcing the same using reliable sources, the same would get deleted very soon. Please read Wikipedia's general notability guidelines to understand what kind of articles are retained on Wikipedia. Might I encourage you to read Wikipedia:Your first article? It contains quite a few good suggestions for article creation. Hope this helps. If you have any other queries, do not hesitate to ping me. Thanks. Lourdes 21:00, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Gloria Allred article

Hi Lourdes, You and I have both deleted the insertions by anon User:97.87.116.23 to the Allred article. He/she continues to re-insert the material. User:Brianga has recently made the insertion more factually correct but I feel and it appears that you do also that the material does not belong. I have posted to Brianga's talk page I would appreciate your weighing in on the Allred talk page regarding this issue Gaas99 (talk) 03:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

• Gaas99 hello. Thanks for your message. Why don't you post the issue on the talk page of the article? While I have reverted the addition for now, it would be better to see what is the consensus of editors frequenting the said page. Lourdes 12:31, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi, There is a discussion on the Allred talk page. Your input would be welcome. Gaas99 ( talk) 02:26, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for the note. I see discussions are going on nicely. I'll drop in if required. See you around. Lourdes 04:15, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for helping me. I love your attitude to new editors.Vroy0001 (talk) 01:38, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome .Lourdes 04:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Just a quick invite if you're free

Hi Lourdes. I know you're very busy; but I really trust you as an editor. I'm not getting many eyes here: Simple inclusion of a notable recurring character Regardless the outcome, might you just take a quick glance before it gets archived? Thank you so much in advance! (I don't think I tagged it correctly, but it's there) Maineartists (talk) 17:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

• Hi Maineartists, thanks for the invite. I am a bit tied up the coming few days and might not be able to do justice to following up discussions, if I were to comment. I hope that is not a problem with you. Thanks. Lourdes 09:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
• Lourdes I like to do 2 things on WP: create & learn. Regardless of the outcome of this discussion, I'd still love for you to take a look and even comment. Thank you for your time and attention. Best, Maineartists (talk) 14:21, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

• Northamerica1000 I am honored by the recognition. Thank you. You're one of the admins who I admire for their diligent contributions. So it's a bonus getting this from you. Thanks once more. Lourdes 09:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Minh Quân Phan

Knee-jerk reaction to seeing a mix of comments, until I re-read and saw the point you were making. MBisanz ^talk 11:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

• MBisanz thank you. You're doing great work anyway. So wouldn't have worried even if you hadn't closed the Afd after my comment. I trust your judgement completely. Lourdes 12:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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• Cameron11598 thank you. Got it. Lourdes 10:24, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Help desk

Thanks for the award. Not sure how deserved it is though! Regards, Eagleash (talk) 18:09, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

• Oh very well deserved Eagleash. The patience with which you assist editors is so invaluable. Thank you for the efforts. Lourdes 01:56, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Query

Hi Lourdes-is there a way to connect with a credible editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:1102:5F00:6104:44C8:628A:78DC (talk) 05:50, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

• You could write at WP:Help desk with any query. There are many credible editors there. Lourdes 07:38, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for making a proposal about Wikipedia:Non-admin closure. It is unusual to see a fairly new user like you take such an interest in policy, and I appreciate your enthusiasm and patience for Wikipedia's administrative process. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:58, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

• Thank you Bluerasberry. Welcome to my talk page and I love the blue in your signature, both figuratively and literally. I actually don't take a lot of interest in changing policy and guidelines, but just in learning them. This was just a result of realizing that while so many non-admins, including me, use this while closing Afds, it remains but an essay. Whether it becomes a guideline/policy or not, I'm glad you found my contribution notice worthy :) Cheers to that and a penny for you for dropping in :) See you around. Lourdes 02:33, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Lordess

Not sure why you messaged me, I made no changes and have no idea what your are talking about...

W — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.130.228.108 (talk) 13:34, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

• Oh then don't worry about it. Must be someone sharing your IP who did that change, which I had to undo. Cheers. Lourdes 13:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

WT:RFA

Lourdes, I removed your advertisement for RFC on lists being promoted as GAs from WT:RFA - it really seems unrelated to the process of selecting administrators. If you disagree please feel free to revert - but I suggest you add a statement of how it pertains to the RFA process. — xaosflux ^Talk 12:54, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi Xaosflux, no worries. I just thought that as a lot of administrators frequent the rfa talk page, it would be good to inform them of a possible area where they might be interested. There's no need to replace the content. Good to see you around. Lourdes 13:18, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't normally update it, but Template:Centralized discussion gets a LOT of visibility - check that page and its talk for getting an item added there. — xaosflux^Talk 14:08, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Will check it out . Thanks for the note. Lourdes 15:14, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

Xaosflux, hi again. Added the note. It's a good template; I've noted it down for future use. Lourdes 00:58, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?

Hi, I recently created a page for my company, Build Your Tomorrow, and I was deleted by you I believe. Why did you deleted the page? And what do I need to do so that you don't delete future content that I create. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:8011:2F00:88A3:2745:5A63:DF20 (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

• Hello. Please read ORG, a notability guideline for organizations - in other words, it describes what kind of companies does Wikipedia feature. Feel free to ask me for any assistance. Thanks. Lourdes 18:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Your investigations

I have mixed feelings about the outcome of the RFA, but I am confident about the positive impression that your investigations left on me. Thanks! Caballero/Historiador ^⎌ 11:08, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Doesn't give me pleasure actually to write all that...especially in a person's Rfa. Lourdes 11:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

I've poured nearly 15 years of my life into this project. Yet to many editors, I'm a villain. What's the point? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 16:06, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

@Paul Benjamin Austin: You're no villain and no one is demonizing you. Adminship here on en-wp has become very sophisticated and technical; RfA has become a very tight examination and very political. You've been out of that loop and this is the result. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Chris. I've left a message on your talk page Paul. Just relax and enjoy Wikipedia in the multiple areas that there are. Rfa is nothing to aspire for. Lourdes 16:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

I get stressed easily. Doesn't help that we have editors like User:TheLongTone who AfD'd several of my crime related articles purely because he didn't want en wp to cover murders and disappearances. Maybe i should mend my ways. Paul Benjamin Austin ( talk) 16:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Get real. I afd the articles because they were ghoulish trivia. TheLongTone ( talk) 16:23, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Stalking my edits again? Paul Benjamin Austin ( talk) 16:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Paul, if you're going to ping him, he is expected to respond. That is not stalking. Anyway, I think this is perhaps not the place to discuss this. Cheers to you all and see you around. Lourdes 16:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

NPR scripts

Hi Ive added your message to the draft December newsletter. However, I've installed them , cleared my cache, and I can't see anything new anywhere. Please answer on my talk page. Thanks Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:56, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

• Resolved – Lourdes 05:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

• That's lovely of you. Merry Christmas to you and the family too. Love. Lourdes 03:27, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

• Arr thanks so much :), It's not every day I'm nice so shhh don't tell anyone , Have a great Crimbo! –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 11:14, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

It's a wonderful time of the year!

• Hi Atsme, a most intellectual wish :D Thank you. Love, wishes and the best of times to you for Christmas and the new year up ahead. Lourdes 16:18, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Reference letter

Hi,

Happy holiday. Sorry to bother you, but the deadline to submit my applications is coming up on my end. It has been a week since you first notified Wales and Walsh on their talk pages, so I wonder if you have some free times to draft me a simple reference letter for works done on Wikipedia? It doesn't have to be either long or detailed. I really appreciate it,

Ueutyi (talk) 06:12, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

• Sure. How would you want it? By email or on my professional letterhead. Lourdes 07:22, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

By email is good. Do you mind posting an email address so I can send you the invitation link? Thanks a lot. Ueutyi ( talk) 02:19, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I'm sending you an email from my email address today. Thanks. Lourdes 02:28, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Ueutyi ( talk) 02:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I sent the link to the new email that you gave me. Thanks for the effort. Ueutyi ( talk) 22:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

•  Done I've submitted the reco. Best wishes. Lourdes 07:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Question 5

Whoops. Have just re-read your question and realised that I haven't exactly answered what you asked. I looked for "minor" in question 5, but you wanted that aspect answered in question 6. What you wanted was "reverts". Shall I have another go at that? It'll be at least half a day before I get to it, though, as we are about to start the long road trip home, and six months of contributions is a lot to look through (well, all I have to find are five examples, which should be less work than the exercise that I've just gone through). Schwede66 20:29, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

• Don't worry about it. Just let it be. Wishes for the new year and lots of love. Lourdes 03:08, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. All the best for 2017 to you, too. Got home safely. Schwede66 08:43, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Lourdes!

Happy New Year!

Lourdes,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
–Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 13:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

• Love to get wishes, as many :D Happy new year to you and family. Have the best of times this year. Love. Lourdes 14:22, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Lourdes

(Charles R. Knight, 1922)

Thank you for all you did for this project in 2016, Lourdes. May your house be safe, and may you and those having the privilege of your company enjoy good health in a Happy New Year 2017! Kind regards, — Sam Sailor 01:54, 2 January 2017 (UTC) Pass on! Send this greeting by adding {{subst:User:Sam Sailor/Templates/HappyNewYear}} to user talk pages. Automatic level-2 heading and auto-signing included.

• What a lovely work!!!! I didn't have an idea about this artiste. It's lovely to be able to appreciate this painting over a glass of wine :) Thank you Sam and new year wishes to you and family too. Love. Lourdes 08:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Mike1901 RfA questions

Hi, Lourdes. I thought I'd drop you a note regarding your question 7 and follow-up questions on Mike1901's RfA. The specific issue is probably moot since the candidate has withdrawn—I hope for unrelated reasons—and I appreciate your interest in making sure that RfA candidates are qualified and the process is above-board. However, for what it is worth, your questions about e-mails struck me as unusually intrusive. Just mentioning it for your consideration on the off-chance that a similar situation arises another time. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad hello. Appreciate your viewpoint. Will keep this in mind. If you could confirm, which parts of the actual question (statements per se) were intrusive? Your response will assist me in moderating future questions. Before you go, let me also add that I absolutely admire your support for editors around Wikipedia; it's a model perhaps many editors, including me, should follow. Thanks. Lourdes 16:52, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

In my view, in the absence of something truly unusual, an RfA candidate is best judged on the basis of his or her work and participation on-wiki. In this case, the relevant inquiry also involved his OTRS work, which is off-wiki but obviously wiki-related, and which is admittedly harder to evaluate than someone whose participation is purely on-wiki. But I just didn't understand why e-mails convincing the candidate to run or addressing the logistics of the nomination, etc., were very relevant or important enough to be the subject of a series of questions. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 18:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

I too would like to know this - as a direct subject of your questioning I feel obliged to try to clarify any concerns you may have. To me, the question seemed to read as though some misconduct had taken place - now obviously the written word can be misinterpreted and I could be entirely incorrect (and if so, I apologise) but if you genuinely believe either Mike, Rob or myself have acted out of turn then I would be keen to know. Many thanks -- samtar^{talk or stalk} 20:09, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Newyorkbrad hi again. While I explicitly told the candidate that I didn't need any emails (I only asked for the events and a clarification of his stand of communicating on email), I understand your viewpoint. I think the excess queries resulted out of a statement of Mike1901, which I found incongruous rather than anything to do with email. Nevertheless, I've noted your point and will keep it in mind. Thanks for coming down, taking the time out and discussing this. It's a pleasure to understand your point of view. Thanks. Lourdes 02:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Sam, you have not acted wrongly. I perfectly accept the nom's prerogative in wishing to know the answer of the candidate in advance before putting in his nom. Your nomination statement pointed to the fact that you knew the answers of the candidate while placing your nom. That's absolutely alright and should be done too in an Rfa. I found the response of Mike tending to be false. He needn't have tried to hide a fact as simple as you knowing his answers before he put them there. That's not what I expect an admin candidate to do. I might be wrong in reading this (Mike's talk page discussions are very mature and are not characteristic of my Rfa impression of him); additionally, you are a most supportive admin (and therefore Mike may have been absolutely truthful in giving the statement). To me, it's a false statement. That's about it. All he needed to have said was that he prepared the answers on his own, discussed them with you, and placed them there. Period. Let me repeat; I might be absolutely wrong in this analysis. If so, my apologies. If not, let's have a beer with mike and rob next time I'm performing in your town (with mike paying for all of us). Lourdes 02:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I have seen Lourdes ask a few prickly questions on RfAs recently, but I don't really have a problem with them; I have done just the same myself over the years, after all. On at least two of my own nominations, he has brought up diffs that require a satisfactory explanation and context, and once that has been supplied, he !votes support and all is well. I know as a nominator, it can be galling to see your own judgement of a candidate be questioned, and I'm perhaps fortunate that in the case where Lourdes has asked these sort of questions, it was things I knew could be explained well by the candidate. However, in this specific case I think Lourdes made a mountain out of a molehill and enquired about something that doesn't really tell anyone whether or not Mike is a good fit as an administrator. Keep the questions focused on content and behaviour that the candidate has recently done, and there'll be no issues. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:37, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Sure. And of course, good to see you here. Lourdes 17:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

And Ritchie333, not a he, but she :) Lourdes 17:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Ta for that

Yup seems a reasonable request - I can understand the concern of a too speedy speedy - it is when the one liners sit there like that for a while... what is amazing is the speed of the zaps after a review and csd nom - hard to tell where its coming from - have to duck for cover... Thanks again and cheers JarrahTree 14:45, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

and sheesh - smells of paid editing - [2] - but hey - JarrahTree 14:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks for the considerate response. Cheers. Lourdes 14:59, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

It has been good to have got some feedback on the speedy area - really is - the important thing in my opinion is the welcome pages - whether they get read or understood is beyond our control - but if welcomes are there - half the battle in that there is info, if something gets zapped forthwith... JarrahTree 15:07, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

And interestingly the issue is a contemporary one as well - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Delay_for_A7_and_G11_CSD_Tags JarrahTree 15:09, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello Lourdes,

A HUGE backlog

We now have 699 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Me

Template:Me has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 21:46, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

• Replied. Thanks. Lourdes 02:27, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations. –FrB.TG (talk) 17:54, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

• Once again, thanks so much FrB.TG. Lourdes 18:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Lourdes, I hope you are well. The {{ db-person}} tagging of the second incarnation of Seneed was spot on. As I had taken part in the AfD, I had the title on my watchlist, and G4 was obvious. But there is a way to spot potential G4 candidates easier at NPP even if you have never seen the article title before: add {{subst:js|User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/deletionFinder.js}} to your common.js or your skin script file, save and bypass your browser cache. For an example go to Emil Nielsen where, to the right of the article title, you see the blue prev dels and prev AfDs links when the script has been been loaded.

On topic: for text snippets many of us get by with a " junk box" ( ex. or ex.), but Pathoschild has a script on Meta, TemplateScript, that is very versatile and might be worth looking into. Installing it in your global.js page and adding a template like this:

{	category: 'New users',	name: 'My Me template',	tooltip: '',	template: ' Do please feel free to [[wp:ping|ping]] or [[User talk:Lourdes|chat me up]] if you need any clarification or support. ~~~ ~~~~~',	position: 'cursor',	editSummary: '',	forNamespaces: '3'	},

would do the job of Template:Me. Notice that I changed [[Special:MyTalk|chat me up]] to simply [[User talk:Lourdes|chat me up]]. Special:MyTalk sends us to our own talk page, and using it here - maybe as {{ subst:Me}} - does not work as intended. Try clicking the link from your alt. account. For communal templates [[User talk:{{safesubst:REVISIONUSER}}|chat me up]] would have had the wanted effect. Best, — Sam Sailor 11:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC) (talk page watcher)

• Wow Sam. Thanks for all the tips and tricks. Now all that is left is a treat :) I'll check out the scripts. Great to see you drop in. Lourdes 17:31, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
• Sam, just checked out the writ keeper thingi. Works well. Thanks. Lourdes 05:26, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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TFA/bot

Looks like you got your own bot going, well done! Am I right in thinking that you've got TFA covered now? Sorry I've been so caught up in work. Cheers, --joe decker^talk 04:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Joe, yes the bot is going on fine. But I would really prefer your bot taking up WP:TFA Title; and I would shut down my bot when that happens. Thanks for checking. Lourdes 07:10, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Great! I'll file the request in a few minutes. Thanks again for your patience and help! --joe decker^talk 02:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Wow, thanks. Lourdes 02:08, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
      • Oh, thank you! If (okay, when) this gets approved, any particular time of day you'd like it to do its thing? --joe decker^talk 02:21, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Joe, around 15 minutes post midnight UTC would be great. Thanks. Lourdes 02:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
      • Roger wilco! --joe decker^talk 02:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
        • So, we're approved, and tried the script, maybe it does something, and added it to crontab for what I believe is 00:15 UTC. I know that sometimes the tool labs server ends up stalling for a bit, but the bot will retry. We've missed today's window, but if you could just keep an eye out tomorrow or the next day and let me know if it seems to be working, I'd appreciate it.  :) Thanks! --joe decker^talk 03:14, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
          • Yes, will do that Joe. Thanks so much. Lourdes 03:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
            • Hi again Joe, the page WP:TFA Title has not got forcelink purged till now. So I'm going ahead and manually purging it for now. Thanks. Lourdes 06:53, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
              • Thanks! I think I see what happened there, and have corrected, sorry for the extra loop.  :( --joe decker^talk 15:12, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
                • No problems. Thanks. Lourdes 17:12, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
                  • It'll be right eventually, one way or another :) --joe decker^talk 03:15, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
                    • Hi Joe, it's been working fine since the past three days. Thanks for taking this up. Lourdes 03:28, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
                      • Thanks, and you are most welcome! --joe decker^talk 03:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
                        • Quick and gentle ping Joe. The TFA Title page did not get purged today. So I've gone ahead and done the same. Thanks. Lourdes 03:37, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
                          • I'll look into it, no need for gentleness! Thanks! --joe decker^talk 04:09, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
                            • :) Thanks. Lourdes 04:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Lourdes, I don't think there's any easy way to say this, but I've done a quick review round your stats and I think you should be an administrator. I don't think I'm the only admin around here with that opinion either. In fact, I'd go further and say that your stats bear a strange resemblance to mine, except I had been lurking on WP for about 8 years before starting serious editing. As it's "open season" for RfAs, you may want to give this serious consideration. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:45, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks Ritchie. It'll surely be an honor to contribute here in administrative capacity. I don't have any noms though, so perhaps should wait for them. Lourdes 15:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

I can ask around; however one immediate thought is that you likely to get a hard time if you continue to ask questions at other peoples' RfAs. Some people don't mind it (as you've probably just seen, Schwede66 has just thanked you for your questions), but I get the impression there is just too much antagonism around it right now and unless you put some clear distance between that, you're likely to attract possible pile-on opposition. Ritchie333^(talk)(cont) 18:37, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

• My very good friend Ritchie333 and I collaborate actively on a highly necessary aspect of Wikipedia: recruiting appropriate candidates for adminship although I less frequently feature as one of the actual nominators - a simple vote or comment from me at the right moment in one section or another can have significantly more impact on a bid for the mop. I have recommended some reading to you already and there are two more very frequently consulted pages here and here which I also wrote that I heartily suggest will broaden your overfiew of adminship, particularly as Ritchie and I are not the first to have raised an eyebrow at your participation at RfA. Don't get me wrong, there is no inference of disruption of the kind we regularly find in the 'oppose' sections, and I'm sure that in a year or two I may even consider nominating you myself. In the meantime, do keep up your excellent content work and perfectly courteous manner of addressing issues that arise - these are what score most points at RfA. Regards, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Ritchie333, Kudpung, points well taken and noted. The detailed explanations make sense and quite a bit. Thanks and warmest cheers. Lourdes 23:45, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

RFC closed

Hello Lourdes,

I have closed an RfC you initiated here. The result was no consensus, which defaulted to the status quo. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions or concerns about the close. Tazerdadog (talk) 06:30, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

• Tazerdadog, well closed. You show a lot of maturity in the assessment and in the close statement. Well done. Lourdes 06:32, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Page curation script

Hello, Lourdes. I need instructions on installing the Page Curation script. I'm not sure how much of the code needs to be pasted, and when I did try, got an error message. Long-time editor, but I've just recently become active using Twinkle. Thanks for any help. I'll watch your page, or reply on mine if you prefer. DonFB (talk) 10:00, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi Don. It's actually simple and a four step process. While you can visit User:Lourdes/PageCuration and understand the instructions, I've listed them down for you (Please note that the script is primarily designed for use by new page reviewers):

1. Go to your common.js page and click on edit.
2. Add the following script to the above mentioned common.js page: importScript('User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js');
3. Save the page, reload/refresh the browser, and you should be on your way. You should now be able to see the words Page Curation written in small fonts in the top menu (look at the top of your browser's window).

Hope this helps. Tell me if you face any issue. Thanks. Lourdes 16:44, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'm still a bit uncertain about the exact text to copy and paste. But it's not urgent, and I'm keeping busy in some other areas at the moment. Regards, DonFB ( talk) 06:29, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

DonFB, the text to copy and paste is given below. Lourdes 06:33, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

importScript('User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js');

FTC

May I interest you in Bradley Cooper's FTC? It's not a time-consuming task as all the articles in it were recently promoted. Asking you as you participated in one its FLCs. - FrB.TG (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

• Done. Thank you for the note. Lourdes 20:01, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

WP:NPP

Thank you for your enthusiasm but please leave such changes to the people who have been working on the project for a very long time and who to know whats going on. If you wish to make such changes, please discuss them on the talk page first. The same applies to most areas of sensitive maintenance features of the site. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

• Hello Kudpung, how have you been doing? It's nice to hear from you. Which change might you be referring to? If you could provide a diff please, I could perhaps clarify. Thanks. Lourdes 06:07, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Just please see the page history. You do a lot of good work but yu are still not ready for a lot of things that only come with many years of experience. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 06:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello again Kudpung. Whenever you drop in here, I feel it's my dad talking to me :) I love him a lot and hope you don't take this analogy otherwise. I'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary in the page history. Allow me to request you again to please point out the diff in the page history which you feel was mistaken. I'm sure I'll be able to provide a satisfactory explanation. Waiting for your response. Warmest regards as always, Lourdes 06:23, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi. Whenever I drop in here, I feel as if I'm talking to my daughter, but she's 47 already. Maybe to one of my teenage grandchildren perhaps. I never mean to sound patronising or condescending but those who know me (and a lot of Wikipedians have met me on 4 continents), know that my bark is worse than my bite ;) That said, I have taken another look, and I realise I had confused you with someone else entirely. Please accept my most humble apologies - your edits were perfectly correct and appropriate - thank you for making them. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 07:11, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

No apologies required from you ever Kudpung. ❤️. Lourdes 07:56, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

RFA

To put it simply, I haven't applied for adminship because I previously didn't think it was necessary. Most of the tasks related to FLC/TFL can be done without the tools; deleting FLCs and changing TFL blurbs while they are running on the Main Page are two of the main tasks where tools are needed. It's only been recently that the lack of tools has hindered my work for the processes. Thank you for thinking of me as a good candidate, but I'm going to be loaded with real-life work for the next few months and it's going to be a battle for me to pitch in at all in FLC matters. Trying to answer the community's questions in a timely fashion would just be too much of a burden. My feeling is that RFA is loosening up somewhat, so we'll see if that continues in the near-future before I consider running. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:13, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

• Well Giants2008, I would say that if answering question in a timely fashion is the only burden, then you should go ahead for the Rfa right now. The community does not expect immediate answers in an Rfa, and with your credentials and outstanding work, I would expect that the leniency shown to you would be as outstanding, especially given the current easier climate at Rfa, which I don't know would continue or not. It would be great to nom you or/and to recommend some others/admins I know to nom you. Will await your feedback. Thanks. Lourdes 03:32, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
  • They do hate when questions aren't answered quickly. I've seen several complaints when questions aren't answered quickly enough (to them), and I'm just not going to be in a position to answer them fast enough for the next few months. The timing just isn't right for me at the moment. Giants2008 (Talk) 03:06, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Sure, no problems. Lourdes 04:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

FL at DYK

Hey Lourdes. As I feared, the regulars are out to shoot this proposal down in flames. The problem you face is that quality is not really a consideration at DYK. The GA argument was valid (i.e. nowhere else on the main page do you get to see them) but that's just happenstance. FLs are few and far between and because the DYK regulars don't "like" them, or don't "understand" them or simply "don't know about them", they're rejecting them out of hand. The saddest thing for me is that the project is still mad keen on listing one Hawaii-based politician per set, one "no-one's ever heard of it or cares about it" insect every set, one unknown Indian politician from the 1970s every set, yet the offer of a quality list which almost certainly has relevance to the readers and provides a quality experience is of no interest to them. I'm sorry about that. Next time, nominate it before it becomes a FL, as many others do, hit those arcane expansion targets and that'll work just fine. It doesn't matter if the list itself is junk, it just has to hit the metrics so a reviewer looking for a QPQ can shout "yay" and earn another badge. It was lovely working with you and seeing how people can still take onboard advice and improve articles as a result. Keep up the good work and don't be discouraged should the DYK community let you down on this proposal. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:54, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you The Rambling Man. I've taken all your points on board. Your suggestion of nominating a list before it becomes FL is also wonderful. Will consider that the next time. It has been a pleasure to work with you. I look forward to do this again soon. Thanks so much. Warmest cheers and wishes. Lourdes 18:15, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion for page curation script improvement

Hi Lourdes, I'm CatcherStorm. I have been using your page curation script and I have not found a way to mark pages patrolled directly from the script. If it is possible, could you add this feature to the script? CatcherStorm ^talk 17:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

• Hi CatcherStorm. Do tell me the exact problem in detail. Thanks. Lourdes 18:23, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

@Lourdes: I have been using your page curation script and I have not found a way to mark pages patrolled directly from the script. CatcherStorm^talk 18:25, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Ha ha . Yes. You said that in your first statement :D Ok. Let me describe your problem. Confirm to me if that is it. So you go to a new article using the page curation script, but when you reach that page, you don't get the small review toolbar that normally should come out from the right side of the screen. Is that the problem? Lourdes 18:28, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

. Yeah, I'm not getting the review toolbar. CatcherStorm^talk 18:29, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok . You don't need to ping me when you're leaving a message on my page :) Tell me if the following solution works:

1. Use the Page Curation script and open any new unreviewed article.
2. Go to the left sidebar menu (it would be on the left side of your screen)
3. Go to the section on the left sidebar menu titled "Tools".
4. Click on the link titled Curate this article.

Tell me if this works. Lourdes 18:32, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked. CatcherStorm^talk 18:34, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

No problems. Have fun. Come back for anything else. Lourdes 18:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

1851 and all that

I was searching for an old cricket link when I came across the Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851 article that you were working on. There's not too much cricket at FAC these days, and I just wondered if you still have any plans for it? If so, drop me a line and I'd be delighted to help. If not, no worries. Sarastro1 (talk) 01:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Sarastro1. Wow! It's amazing to get a message from you for this. I recall your GA review of an article I wrote William Walker (Australian cricketer). That was a pleasure. It would be a pleasure working on Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851 too with you. I had actually opened a peer review for the article, which was closed some time ago. I couldn't work on the article earlier because, well, I got pulled by some other interesting areas around the project - Afd, FL, CSD et al. Tell me how you would like to take this up. Shall I open up talk page discussions? We can then take the article section by section. Thanks and I'm still quite happy at your message. 02:12, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

• I'd say the best bet is to do this on the talk page. I've a few sources I want to check (I have a depressingly large cricket library!) to see if they have anything, then I'll put some thoughts down later today (hopefully!) Sarastro1 (talk) 19:39, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

• I've started a section on the talk page. My library let me down, but there are a few other places I can look. I've made a few broad suggestions, and we can get into the details after that. And obviously if you have any sources that I'm missing (like the ones you have used so far), let me know! Sarastro1 (talk) 00:24, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

• Great. I'll join you on the talk page. Thanks. Lourdes 01:28, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Good luck!

Good luck for your rfa! J947 19:10, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you J947 :) Lourdes 19:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Here seems like a decent enough place to pile on the "too bad, wish you had gotten it" comments. From the places I've seen you around, think you'll be a great admin one day, and sad it wasn't 7 days from now. Alas. Your withdrawal statement was classy, and your work on the Wiki is great. :) TonyBallioni ( talk) 02:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Aw thanks Tony. Lourdes 02:51, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Ritchie333, what's your thoughts on the rfa? I see that you mentioned above that she should be nominated up in this section. J947 04:40, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Seconded. It might not be right now, but it'll happen. Keep working hard towards that goal. - NsTaGaTr  ^(Talk) 03:22, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks NsTaGaTr. It's actually not a goal; I don't think there's any need to work towards it. Editors should enjoy what they do here; and if the community in the meanwhile feels an editor has done enough and should be granted extra tools, that's fine. If they don't, that's fine too. Like I said, the point is to enjoy what one does here, which I do :) Thanks for the support. Lourdes 03:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

This yet another example of a perfectly able editor being opposed due to 'inexperience'. The community should lower their threshold, which would result in a whole bunch of new admins rolling in and a huge leap for Wikipedia. Other editors, if you see this post and if you think you're ready to become an admin then be bold and do it! There's nothing stopping you. J947 04:36, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@J947: The most obvious thought is trout slap to Lourdes for not asking a nom first! As I said above, I think she has the aptitude do the job, but there is a problem with attitude, and that came up in the RfA, so I think it closed with the right result this time. If I thought she had put enough distance between recent disruption at other RfAs, I would have nominated, but she hasn't, so I haven't. Had I had a chance to vote, I would have probably gone with "neutral" for those reasons.

For what it's worth, regarding the discussion with Oshwah, I would have blocked Bradyn33 indefinitely for vandalism with no other comment, not even a talk page notice. Experience has shown me that the odds of anyone making an edit like that reforming and making good faith edits are close to zero. So I'm on Lourdes' side in that discussion. However, as soon as the other admin had explained their view, I would have said "fair enough, we'll agree to disagree" and walked away to do something else. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ritchie333, I guess I deserve the trout slap :) And yes, you're right. I've realized from the comments at the Rfa too that the community gives considerable importance to these interactions. I've placed this on my priority list. Thanks for being there. Lourdes 14:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

That was awful

Opposing your RfA was probably the worst thing I've done on Wikipedia, especially seeing as I probably misinterpreted something - my points there still remain, but they are said with a heavy heart. I hope in time you will consider applying again and I would like to echo a sentiment I hopefully made clear in my vote - you are a remarkable editor in many ways and you should be proud of your contributions -- Samtar ^{talk · contribs} 07:12, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Samtar. No problems. I understand. I think the most important part of the Rfa was the fact that editors could go through my contributions and provide constructive feedback. I appreciated your response too. Thanks. See you around. Lourdes 09:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry you did not get sufficient support. You got mine. Give it another shot in six months or a year. Edison ( talk) 13:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Edison. Your support is much appreciated. Stuff happens. It's a learning experience. Thanks. Lourdes 14:18, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Please don't take that advice! You already shot yourself in the foot with some particularly poor decision-making. I recommend you visit ORCP no sooner than two years from now. I'm not making a judgement about your CLUEfulness but being too eager for a mop is a problem for many, including me. You've already proven that you're a good editor and I'd hate to see you get refused by the community a second time based in large part upon mistakes from this go around. Please continue to be a helpful editor here and think about adminship... look at areas where you can help our backlogs. Read every RfA guide you can find if you must. I'm sorry a couple editors puffed up your ego a little too early and encouraged you to the slaughter. When the time is right the cabal will tell you and after that it's a lifetime appointment. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:37, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure Chris, I'll take it as it comes. The question of whether I should visit ORCP or Rfa the next time is actually quite far from my mind – and I'll revisit the choice when the time is appropriate. As I mentioned to a few editors above, I'd rather enjoy doing what I do out here than think of working up my contributions, targeted at any future Rfa or ORCP listing. I appreciate the words you've written above and hope to see you around. Cheers. Lourdes 02:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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Nikkimaria hello. How are you doing? I'll check and reply. Thanks. Lourdes 07:42, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

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New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

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New Page Review - newsletter No.3

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Your signature

Hi Lourdes - what's with all the open/close tags in your signature - they don't seem to be doing anything except for making it take up space in the editing window (c.f. WP:SIGLEN). Will you please review and revise? Thank you. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:04, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

• Xaosflux, heck, have no idea when that crept in. Done and dealt with. Thanks for pointing it out. Lourdes 15:21, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

  Thanks! Thought it was a 01APR thing, but saw it was in there before too :D Happy editing, — xaosflux^Talk 15:22, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

  Thanks :D Cheers. Lourdes 15:23, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Why this redirect?

Hey, what happened here? Shouldn't this go through AfD? Valoem ^{talk contrib} 14:15, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi Valoem; I don't think so. If you're particular about it, you may (but I wouldn't do it, if it were me). Lourdes 15:23, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

As long as we both understand. Nothing to see here. Valoem^talkcontrib 15:26, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Confused? So am I

In case you were wondering why you got a notification, for some reason, my ping autocomplete inserted your name instead of Leschnei's. [3] --NeilN ^{talk to me} 14:12, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

No problem .Lourdes 06:05, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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Port Phillip, etc etc

Hope you are well. I've just added quite a big chunk of background to cricket in Australia, which I think we were a little light on before; I managed to unearth quite a bit of background. I've reworked quite a lot of that section, so feel free to take a look and have a hack at it yourself. One other thought I had, which I will raise on the talk page when I get a chance, is that our title is probably wrong. Modern cricket (and sports in general) practice is to put the name of the home team first when naming the teams; by that rule, it should be "Van Diemen's Land v Port Philip, 1851". I might ask one or two others, but it's really not worth bothering with a RFC or anything so formal. It's pretty straightforward and not a big issue at all. Sarastro1 (talk) 00:59, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Sarastro1 hello. Yes, your point about the name seems to be right. We can change the article name anytime you wish. I'll just take a look at the additions in some time. Thanks for the effort you're putting in. Lourdes 02:08, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

We may have a little issue or two. I'll mention it here first as I'm still working out what it might mean and any possible ways around it. First, I'm not sure that the book/pamphlet of Phillpot is reliable enough to pass muster at FAC. I'm not sure myself, and have asked for a second opinion. If not, we will have to re-source anything cited to that. The only problem I foresee is the claim that Phillpot was instrumental in arranging the match. I've already found a few other things on Trove that might plug any gaps. The second issue is the claim, given in that history of the MCC, that the match was arranged to celebrate "the impending separation of Victoria from New South Wales". That is all we have to back up the fact in our article, but I'd feel happier if we had something more substantial. The article on Intercolonial cricket in Australia makes the same claim but is not referenced. It may come from a book listed in the sources, Two Hundred Years of Australian Cricket, but there is no way that I can get hold of that. That might make it difficult to source that particular claim more fully, but there is a deeper issue. I wonder if that book has more about our match? The source I mentioned on the talk page, The formative years of Australian cricket, almost certainly has a bit more as well. So, my issue is how close can we get to FAC standard without access to these print books, and without the Phillpot source? I'm becoming a little worried that we might hit a brick wall. I'll ponder for a bit, then stick some more thoughts on the talk page. Sarastro1 ( talk) 00:56, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Very good points. I've noted down some stuff on Nikkimaria's talk page about the source in question. In the meanwhile, I've also changed the introduction part of the article to match the title move. Thanks. Lourdes 03:23, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

I noticed that we are using "Tasmania and intercolonial cricket to 1891" as a source. It is behind a paywall, but I don't suppose you have a copy of it? Or do you know who used it as a source? It might have a little more on the background that we could use. Sarastro1 ( talk) 22:57, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sarastro, I had used this as a source. I had access to this source at that time; unfortunately, I've lost that access since then to this source. I'll try and get hold of a copy and will inform you in a couple of days if I've managed that. Thanks. Lourdes 04:17, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I've managed to add a little more from the sources that you found, and I really must compliment you on your research skills; I have no idea how you had the patience to dig some of these things out. You really should be writing far more cricket articles! Meanwhile, I've asked someone if they can get hold of two of the useful book sources from their local library. It may take a while, and may only confirm what we've already got, but it's worth a try. I apologise for the slow going, but I really think this could be very, very good when it's all done. Sarastro1 ( talk) 23:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Sarastro1 for your kind words. I like cricketing articles because of one of my close friends being a cricketer. I'll surely try and contribute to some other cricketing articles. In fact, the last cricketing article List of Indian Premier League seasons and results I contributed to made me realize how the sport is growing. Anyway, will chip in on the article. I really don't mind the slow going. I actually am grateful to you that you're working on the article with much diligence. Thanks once more for your kind words. Lourdes 04:13, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sarastro1, I've worked on tables in the past so I'll try to get this one up. No luck with the book though. Sorry for that. Lourdes 08:41, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Match done; I've cut it back quite a bit (which was something that came up at the PR and the FAC) and managed to reference it without cricket country. I've taken out everything about "the first instance of..." as that is self-evident in the first first-class game, and it is not something the players would have been aware of. We can maybe mention this at the end. Almost there now, I think. Sarastro1 ( talk) 23:30, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

That's brilliant. I'll work on the article once you're through and also add the table. Do give me a headsup when you're more or less done. You're the best. Thanks. Lourdes 04:47, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

• OK, I think that's it. I've probably missed quite a few links, as I'm terrible at those, and it still would benefit from the scorecard if you are interested. I haven't checked through and I'd like to give it a last copy-edit and polish before going anywhere near FAC. I'm going to ask a couple of people to take a cold hard look at it too, including Wehwalt who was interested before, so that it has the best chance possible. But we should be able to nominate in the next week or so if all goes well and I've not done anything too stupid. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

• Fantastic Sarastro1; I'll go through the article and also put in the scorecard this weekend. Have a great one. Lourdes 17:00, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

• Update: Wehwalt has had a look now, and I've added a scorecard. I think it is just about ready, and if you have no objection I'll nominate this for FAC in the next day or two. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:39, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Sarastro1 thanks so much for the scorecard work. You're simply doing everything leaving me nothing to do :) I have no objection at all. Thanks again for all the outstanding work on the article. Lourdes 03:24, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

My mistake on the double quotations... long week!! Or I need my eyes testing... Sarastro1 ( talk) 16:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh come on :) You've done the mountain of impeccable work on this and you don't need to worry about the mistakes. I'm just doodling through the stuff. Lourdes 16:30, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Most of the sources say 11am, but the grand cricket match one gives 10:30. I've gone for 11, as that's what most modern sources say. I got a scan of "200 Seasons of Australian Cricket" as well, from which I added in some more details last week; that gives 11am too. Sarastro1 ( talk) 20:59, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Sarastro1. I'm done copy editing the article. If there's anything else you'd like me to go through within the article, do please tell. Otherwise, you can nominate the same for FA whenever you decide. Thanks. Lourdes 16:49, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

No, I think we're good. I've nominated it now, so let's see what happens. Sarastro1 ( talk) 22:46, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Lourdes 01:53, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for getting all the points at FAC, I've been rather busy these last few days! Sarastro1 ( talk) 19:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Sarastro1, no problems at all. I'm just chipping in after you've chiseled out the mountain. Lourdes 15:15, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Congress of people

Hi,

Thank you for editing and reviewing the our page congress of people. Thank you for adding in the term unrecognised" party. I would request you to undo the deleted article, as we are planning to nominate our candidates in coming loksabha elections from the sates mentioned in the article.

Since you have deleted the whole article,it is demoralising for our party members.

Kindly undo the changes you did, and request you to remove/edit only the matter that you feel inappropriate.

Looking forward for your positive response

Thank you Santoshbhagat82 (talk) 04:43, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I've deleted content that did not adhere to our core content policies, so I don't believe I can add the same back. You could discuss this issue on the talk page of the article, so that other editors can also comment. Also, while you're around, please give a quick look to Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, which suggests that you exhibit extreme caution in contributing to articles that you may be associated with. If there's anything else where you might wish my help in, feel free to ask. Thanks. Lourdes 06:19, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, will check the details thanks Santoshbhagat82 (talk) 07:30, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Sharp catches

Sharp catches on Carmen Lagamagna. For some reason I thought VC was referring to venture capitalist, perhaps reflecting my own internal bias. Also, unfortunate that you had to withdraw your recent RfA. I am sure you will get it soon enough, you are an outstanding team member. Ies (talk) 10:54, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks I enjoy sandwiches. No problems with your edits. I've done worse. See you around. Lourdes 14:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Issues with Page Curation Toolbar installation

Hey there. I'm trying to get the page curation toolbar working, but I'm having some issues. I added it to the js file, and the "Page Curation" link is in the top section, but the toolbar isn't showing up, and I don't have a link in the Tools section. Any ideas? Thanks! bojo | talk 20:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

• Hello bojo1498, please click on the page curation link at the top, and from the list of new articles that are shown, click on any article, and then notice the small vertical menu that pops out at the right side of the screen. If no vertical menu pops out, check the items in the left tool bar (below the heading titled "Tools") and see if you have the link "Curate this article". Check all this and tell me if this works. Thanks. Lourdes 07:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

• I tried this, and it isn't working, unfortunately. The "Page Curation" link shows at the top, and it takes me to the New Pages Feed, but once I click on any of the articles, no menu appears and I don't have a link in the tools section for curation. Thanks! bojo | talk 13:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

• bojo1498, I think it's basically because while you have the reviewing pending changes right, you do not have the new page reviewer right. The curation toolbar is accessible only for editors with that right. You can apply for the same at WP:PERM. Thanks. Lourdes 15:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

• Okay, got it. This line in the documentation seems to contradict that, unless I'm missing something: "At the same time, any registered user can install, and use the script." I thought that might be the case, but based on the aforementioned line from the documentation I wasn't sure. Thanks! bojo | talk 19:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

• bojo1498 you have a point here. Let me try and improve the same. Thanks. Lourdes 00:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks! bojo | talk 02:28, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, Lourdes. I'm just posting to let you know that List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for May 8. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks so much for this. Harrias is the main contributor to the list; so it would be good to get his views first. In my opinion, I would have preferred 1 May (the day he died), as that would hold some more relevance. But I would go by what you or The Rambling Man may decide. Thanks so much. Lourdes 07:22, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Email?

I received a notification you sent me an email but I have not seen an email. Perhaps the notification precedes the email; I'll keep looking although I expect to retire for the evening very soon.--S Philbrick(Talk) 02:02, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

I just realized it is in a different folder so I have it, although I have not yet read it.-- S Philbrick(Talk) 02:03, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Read and actioned.-- S Philbrick(Talk) 02:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Sphilbrick thanks a lot. Lourdes 04:37, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

AfD

Thanks very much for catching that; I've closed as speedy due to nom withdrawal. Dunno what I was thinking. I might have been looking at the article as it was before I filleted it; or just good old-fashioned skim-reading of the sources  :) In any case, thanks again, and take care. — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 17:00, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh. Alright. I hope my comments weren't off. I wouldn't !vote keep in any noms you've put up. That's why I simply commented. Hope you're doing well. Lourdes 17:03, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Well, thanks for the !vote  ;) No, not off, you made points that addressed my nomination, and I think you pointed out better sourcing than I noticed, particularly re. depth of coverage in NYT etc. Anyway, it's probably good for the soul to be wrong about something every now and again, and be called out on it-, cheers! — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 17:09, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

The5

Hey Lourdes, thanks for helping in the "The5" page, can you please add to the infobox that the record label is Sony Music and that the genre is Pop because it didn't work with me. Thanks ☺ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.61.48.21 (talk) 14:04, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Hey it's the guy from the "The5" article again, thank you and sorry for bothering you again 😅 Can you please add to the infobox the first first picture that you find on Google when writing "The5"? I don't know how to put pictures. And thank you for helping me ☺☺ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.61.48.21 (talk) 14:40, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

• Hello and thanks for the note. Please read Wikipedia:Non-free content. I would not prefer placing any image that is not free to use. Write back for any assistance. Thanks. Lourdes 23:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Hey Lourdes, thanks for telling me about the references thing. I'm going to add references but please next time don't delete the paragraph just tell me what to do. ☺ And for the image, if there's any image free to use I'd be glad if you add it until I learn how to add one... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibeluser (talk • contribs) 08:31, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Wikibeluser, please don't put SPAM in our articles. That's why I deleted the paragraph, apart from the reference thing. Please read our non-negotiable PILLARS to understand the basis of editing out here on Wikipedia. On the other thing, I don't have any free image. Come back for any other help if you want. Thanks. Lourdes 09:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Meh

I'm not really offended. I am pretty disappointed to come back to responses that are not just half-hearted, but fairly objectivey wrong. We need more admins. In fact, we're losing them at an average of about 50 a year, and have been in the red every year for the past nine. And that's with the pretty damned low bar of an average of a single edit every other day over 60 days. So great on them for meeting basically the bare minimum to not get desysoped for inactivity, but from where I sit, it seems pretty evident that a couple dozen people who are online for 5-10 hours daily are doing most of the heavy lifting. (A few names come to mind of folks who are logging probably 100-200 admin actions per day, every day.)

So yeah, to see that the standard for ORCP is apparently well below that expected for an AfD nomination is pretty disappointing. TimothyJosephWood 11:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

I can understand. I don't know what to say, but I am sorry for how the review turned out. Lourdes 13:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Céline Bethmann AfD

You may want to note the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalie White (2nd nomination) AfD.

My argument is that if we feel winning a show doesn't give notability, one of the previous winners should be non-notable. Otherwise, we should consider them up-and-coming, high-profile people in the entertainment industry, and starring in a full-season of a prime-time TV show should be enough to allow keeping the article by BLP. Power~enwiki (talk) 19:29, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Got it. Incidentally, I guess you've forgotten to sign at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natalie White (2nd nomination). Thanks. Lourdes 11:05, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Re: Message

Hello. I received your message about an AFD discussion on my talkpage. Thanks for letting me know about that. I'm still new to this AFD thing, and taking a closer look at the AFD discussion definitely shows consensus for deletion. Is there any way to contact an admin and get them to close the discussion, or do we have to wait until it gets moved to the old discussions? Thanks –XboxGamer22408^talk 02:52, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

XboxGamer22408, hi. No worries. Just let the Afd be as it is. It will be closed eventually. Thanks. Lourdes 00:41, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

XboxGamer22408; pinging you once more. Thanks. Lourdes 00:42, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Review request for Kunal Saha

Respected sir,

Kunal_Saha Kunal saha's significance is no way limited within "India's got talent".

Kunal Saha is someone who is contributing towards Indian music since age of 5. He is also an inspiration to follow : Ref : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kolkata/Gen-Y-dreams-big-earns-big/articleshow/11548048.cms

Kunal saha represented India in One asia convert , a concert organised by the consulate general of Japan to commemorate 60 years of diplomatic relationship between Japan and India. Ref : https://www.telegraphindia.com/1121208/jsp/entertainment/story_16287647.jsp#.WOYMalV97IV

Saha also participated as Santoor Artist in International Kolkata fashion week 2012 . Ref: http://www.washingtonbanglaradio.com/content/94505312-kolkata-fashion-week-tejas-gandhis-mademoiselle-collection-embodies-freedom-women

Kunal Saha fulfills the rules of WP:MUSICBIO.Saha is having many articles in national newspapers, have done foreign tours as Santoor Artist, played in ALL INDIA RADIO,

AmlanDas (talk) 08:11, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello Amlan, I understand what you are referring to. Unfortunately, a significant majority of the editors at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kunal Saha, including Winged Blades of Godric, Bearian and Exemplo347 did not believe the subject to be notable. Even the sources you have listed, do not show in-depth or significant analysis of the subject. They are fleeting mentions of either the subject's performance or they are very short interviews (which, being primary sources, may not be considered as sources for notability). But don't worry. Over time, I am sure this subject would gain significant coverage and in-depth mentions – of the kind where the newspaper article or any other reliable source discusses purely him. We can recreate the said article then. If you need more assistance, please ask. Do not hesitate to ask for more clarifications. Thanks. Lourdes 00:49, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Respected Sir, Thank you so much for providing your precious time. In Kunal Saha's update history log you may see experienced user SoWhy had found significance and remarked "claims significance, not completely copyvio (those parts can be removed without having to delete the whole article". As per my research I do believe Kunal Saha's contribution towards music is encyclopedic. I couldn't find all the references of news articles. May be some references have been archived now. You may find several coverage snaps on Saha and his band Blendz (Which is the only ethnic electronic fusion at Eastern India founded by Saha) at [[4]] I am requesting you to give a chance to edit rather than deleting my whole contribution

Thanks AmlanDas (talk) 07:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello AmlanDas, SoWhy's analysis was purely with respect to not speedily deleting the article. In any article, irrespective of whether sources exist about the article's subject, if there is a claim made of notability or significance, then the article should not be deleted unilaterally under the A7 criterion. The reason this article was discussed in a forum by various editors was because SoWhy declined to delete the article in a speedy manner. Having said that, now that editors have reached consensus about the article's status, it is not left to me to reverse the same. If you find reliable sources that discuss the subject in depth rather than only in passing statements, then you can share those sources with me and I can suggest whether the article can be recreated or not. Hope this explanation helps. Lourdes 14:19, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I am very busy with grad school. If the issue was anywhere near to close, I would try to fix the problems. Sadly, the answer is I will not assist anyone in trying to rescue this. Bearian ( talk) 22:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Respected Sir ,

I have found another reliable source where Saha's articles has been listed. [[5]] . I would like to request you to go through following articles which will prove him as a significant artist.

[[6]] [[7]] [[8]] [[9]] [[10]]

If restore is not possible, kindly allow me to recreate the same. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AmlanDas (talk • contribs) 06:13, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello again AmlanDas, out of all the sources you've listed, only this archived source looks interesting; but even this has a significant part of the source as interview statements from the subject; I would consider this source predominantly a primary source, and not enough for notability. I am sorry but the other sources simply don't discuss the subject enough (and bengalipromotion.com is in itself an unreliable source). Sorry, but this is not enough. I hope you are not dissuaded. Might I suggest that you focus on editing other articles and revisit the notability-worthiness of this subject say after six months? Thanks. Lourdes 16:56, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks Gerda. That is thoughtful and appreciated. Hope you are doing well. Lourdes 12:19, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

On vacation, flowers and culture, such as a great opera yesterday (need to expand our stub, the composer was there), another one today. On Wikipedia, I could do without arguments such as Ach Gott. But DYK flourishes, Kafka reminder, + a lead hook and a quirky one that I reviewed. How are you? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 13:30, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Wow Gerda, your work is fascinating as always. I have been very well. Thank you for asking. Hope to meet you some day if I'm around your town. Warmly. Lourdes 16:39, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

I am advertising my town in my infobox on my user page, - it's worth a trip, ask Floq ;) - Women in music in July, I made a start with a fascinating singer-actress. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 16:47, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

:) Will make it there one day. Lourdes 16:52, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

let me know in advance, please, -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 21:07, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely. Lourdes 02:29, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caribbean Journal of International Relations & Diplomacy

Hi, This AfD suffered from very little participation (and no participation at all from specialist editors knowledgeable about academic journals. I'd appreciate if you could relist this instead of closing. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 11:02, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Randykitty. Hope you're doing well. I can understand your viewpoint (which is reflected in my closing statement). While I'm unfamiliar with Chetsford, I am quite well acquainted with the work of Carrite and Casliber and consider them editors who are knowledgeable about academic journals. Yet, I can understand what you're saying here (although I'm a performing artiste myself, I am in the final year of my Ph.D, having submitted my dissertation and realize the interpretation in the area of academic journals is a sensitive issue). To your benefit, let me ping a few editors I respect; if any one of them agrees with you, I'll re-list this Afd. Requesting the inputs of Kudpung, Sam walton, Ritchie333, Ad Orientem, Xaosflux, SoWhy, HJ Mitchell. Thanks. Lourdes 11:17, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Based only on that discussion, I do not see that a consensus to delete the page emerged. — xaosflux^Talk 11:25, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The job of a closer is to assess consensus. Three experienced editors supplied sources and explained why it was possible to write an article on this. For a non-keep close to hold sway, those arguments would need to have been refuted, which they weren't, except for WP:NOTINHERITED. So I would endorse the "keep" close. Ritchie333^(talk)(cont) 12:10, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

• Note I am not asking for a non-keep close, which clearly would be ridiculous as the debate currently stands. I am only asking for a relist, to give other editors a chance to participate in the discussion. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 12:46, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Why? The only other result might be a no consensus, which would default to status quo. Cas Liber ( talk·contribs) 14:06, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

The current arguments rest on an incorrect interpretation of WP:NJournals. If experienced editors would participate, I'm not so sure about the outcome. (The !vote based on maintaining a "very, very low bar for journals" obviously is not policy based, for example). Also, even if this would end up to be closed "no consensus" and the status quo maintained, that would still make it easier to take this to AfD again in 3 or 4 months, if no actual evidence of notability surfaces. -- Randykitty ( talk) 14:16, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

• This looks like a good close to me. Three !votes may not be ideal but in the present environment at AfD it is a reasonable level of participation. The consensus clearly supported a Keep outcome and I did not see anything in the rationals that struck me as an obvious misinterpretation of guidelines. That said, I don't think there would be anything wrong with opening a discussion about the article on the talk page of one of the relevant wiki-projects to get some feed back. If you suddenly get a bunch of editors all saying that the AfD blew it, that might be a good rational for a renomination. But as far as this one goes, consensus is what we go by and it looks pretty clear here. Don't take it too hard. AfD is not my favorite place in the world and FWIW I've got a few check marks in the loss column there too. It happens. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

• I'm not at all saying that this was a bad close, as the debate stands, this was the only possible outcome. All I was asking for was a relist, to stimulate more discussion by more specialist editors. I guess that's not gonna happen, but just want to make it clear that no criticism of Lourdes was made, nor was it intended if anybody misread my comments. --Randykitty (talk) 15:11, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

(pinged) My standard is usually to relist if two or less people participated and to close if more did unless consensus is unclear. It's not the assessing admin's job to relist if they believe the "wrong" people participated or others could also have participated. If consensus is clear after seven days, the AFD should be closed. There are far too many of them anyway (I've been closing dozens almost daily the last weeks) to relist even those with clear consensus. Regards SoWhy 19:18, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I have no fundamental problem with reopening this AfD. If the current plan is to file a new one in short order, perhaps it might be more time efficient for everyone involved to just reopen this one. Chetsford ( talk) 22:11, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm late to the party (is there any beer left?) but the close looks like a good call to me. Three experienced editors, well-reasoned arguments, nobody arguing for deletion other than the nominator ... I can't really see another way to close it. Reasonable minds can differ but I don't see that relisting would have had much effect here. As to re-nominating, the question to ask is whether there are arguments that haven't been explored. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 07:47, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Problem is that nobody bothers to look at the links/references provided. It looks good, but doesn't stand up to close inspection. A handful of citations to articles published in the journal really doesn't contribute anything to notability. None of those references actually say anything about the journal. And, as said before, at least one !vote was not policy based at all. And, I repeat yet again, I have no beef with Lourdes' judgment, all I was asking for was a relist. In any case, it's clear that isn't going to happen, so let's stop pestering Lourdes with messages on their talk page. -- Randykitty ( talk) 10:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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Infonet_Lasnamäe_Stadium deletion

Thanks for looking at the Infonet_Lasnamäe_Stadium page which was nominated for deletion. I think you have set a dangerous precedent deleting this page as every top-flight football club in Europe has a page for their ground. I think deleting it is very Anglo-centric, for sure it's a small club in the grand scheme of things for it is the home of the Estonian Champions!

There was very little debate on deleting this page. Only one person really wanted it deleted. Anyone who regularly reads the pages about football clubs (like me!) would see there is only one decision.

I accept that if Wikipedia was being put together from scratch then it might be decided not to include a page for each ground. That's a decision which has already been made though. But the fact is every team has one, it's utterly illogical to delete this page.

Anyway up to you what you want to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrimRob (talk • contribs) 21:18, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello GrimRob. Hope you're doing well. I understand your point of view. The Afd on the stadium pointed to a consensus on redirecting the article to FCI Tallinn, because editors believed that the stadium had not received enough significant coverage to qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Personally, I have no views about the stadium, but would suggest that you may try and get reliable sources that discuss the stadium at length. These sources may assist you in recreating the article on the stadium in case you wish to, in the future. If you need my help at any juncture, feel free to ask. Warmly. Lourdes 14:45, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

The only source in English was the article about the Hearts game which was postponed because the ground was so small. It's curious how a side which such a small ground managed to win the league, there are much bigger grounds in the division, but I have no links with Estonia so don't know. I'll add anything I find to the ground section on the main page about the club - hopefully one day someone will see sense and split it into two pages to get consistency with every other European team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrimRob (talk • contribs) 20:07, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

RfA

Thanks for supporting my run for administrator. I am honored and grateful. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Your question at the RfB

Given that Bureaucrats have no special interest/powers/tools when it comes to AfD, I wondered why you were asking this? It's not obvious from your question. While we do encourage people to ask questions of candidates, it's to help understand whether the candidate is suitable or not. Please note that WP:RFA includes the text Irrelevant questions can be removed or ignored, so please stay on topic. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 11:25, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello Dweller, hope you're well. It's more SoWhy's perspectives on COI that interest me than his closing of Afds. While I feel the query is relevant, if you feel the question is irrelevant, please remove the same immediately. I have no issues on that. Warmly. Lourdes 11:29, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm not sure COI is relevant either. If you're sure you're happy I'll remove it. Or you can do it yourself. I'm off to get a sandwich, I'll check here when I get back. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 11:30, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Like I said, while I think it is relevant and should be considered, I have no issues if you believe it is irrelevant and remove the same. As always, warmly. Lourdes 11:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

"I think it is relevant and should be considered" Then I'll leave it. As a Crat, I'm a guardian of appropriate RfX procedures, which way exceeds my position as nominator in this case. If another Wikipedian disagrees and chooses to remove it (or you do), I'm fine with that. I would suggest that if it stays you at least clarify that you're interested in COI more than AfD, and why you think that relevant to RfB. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 11:40, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Will do so Dweller. Thanks. Lourdes 14:54, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

I didn't want to reply to you at the RfB because I don't think it's the best forum to discuss this but I would be happy if you could explain your reasoning in more detail. The COI guideline says (in note [a]) that interest " refers here not to curiosity but to something in which a person has a stake" (and further "[T]he term 'interest' [in 'conflict of interest'] means some actual share or right on the basis of which one can materially gain or lose [...]" (emphasis added)). That's why I felt and feel comfortable saying I have no such COI when it comes to other people who happen to have the same job as I do but where I could not possibly gain anything from handling their articles one way or another. Am I right to understand that you think that having the same job alone is sufficient to trigger the appearance of a COI? I don't think that fits the current wording of WP:APPARENTCOI but I would like to hear why you think so. Also, no matter the outcome of the RfB, do you think the COI guideline should be clarified in this regard and if so, where to discuss this best, WT:COI or WP:VPP? Regards SoWhy 07:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

SoWhy, I thank you for the gracious response. I have withdrawn my oppose following very lucid counter points by editors at your Rfb. I am also sorry for how the Rfb is turning out at the current moment. Some of the editors in my Rfa also pointed out a similar issue – of being a stickler for the written word – as the reason for their opposing my Rfa. Since then, I have gained in understanding the implications of IAR and the reasons one needs to use common sense in a wide area of our interactions on Wikipedia – from editing to maintenance to administrative functions to even, I should say, reading through various articles. I hope the current Rfb does not put you down; I really admire your presence and interactions here and hope to see more of you in due course. Warmly as always, Lourdes 02:40, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, even though I can't edit on the moderators forum, I've left the editor that raised the question messages on his talk page! MusicPatrol (talk) 22:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

I'll respond to you at the relevant notice board. Thanks. Lourdes 14:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

?!

[11] Must've missed the joke! — fortunavelut luna 14:33, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

You deleted the full list and left just the date :) I thought that was good for a laugh :) How have you been doing? Good to have you drop by. Lourdes 14:38, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Riiiight... Yeah fine thanks Lourdes! Thing is, I don't usually go around deleting pages lke that :o this image is a screenshot of what I can see there right now- see what I mean? So the only thing I thought I was getting rid of was what appeared to be an external link! I mean, WTF, etc?! I like theway you thought I just casually go around blanking pages :p — fortunavelut luna 14:58, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

AfD glitch page

:D I get it. The fact is that pages that are very long don't get transcluded (there's a limit to transclusion); so what you basically see is an untranscluded Afd list and one reference from an Afd included in that day's list. That made you think that there's spam. No worries. I don't think you go around blanking pages :DDDD Lourdes 15:04, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah ha. Nice one :) That particular example is actually a good advert for blanking... or TNT! Thanks for the help Lourdes- any idea how I can get to see the whole page, though? — fortunavelut luna 15:08, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Of course. Just click on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2017 July 24 on that page. You'll get to see the whole list. (On most days when the list is of normal size which can be handled by the transclusion mode, you can see the full list at Wikipedia:List of AfDs closing today, without having the need to click again.) Lourdes 15:17, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	24/ Tech. Support Ha! Thanks a lot! ...Now.... I can get back to my page-blanking rampage...  :) — fortunavelut luna 15:25, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Not if I can help it... -- There'sNoTime ^{(to explain)} 15:27, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

You guys :D Thanks FIM Lourdes 15:48, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

There is no vandalism

Refer to article Swati Chaturvedi, the edits were all legit and backed with links. Why are you flagging those as vandalism? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:8486:32B2:DC48:AEDD:D15D:7539 (talk) 12:56, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

You'll be blocked for BLP vandalism the next time you add attacking statements based on absolutely unreliable sources. Lourdes 13:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Thomas Bohn

Hey LOURDES, Thomas Bohn:::My edits are accurate but not verifiable at the moment as Adam Christ is in chemotherapy in Edin Prairie MN. Please consider my edits a gift to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100A:B128:C206:88CE:3869:2478:6B17 (talk) 04:58, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Please don't add unverified information on living persons to any article on Wikipedia. Please read the policy on BLP before proceeding to edit on Wikipedia. Repeated such edits will result in your IP/account getting blocked. Thanks. Lourdes 05:00, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

XfD closures

Given that you had to close Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amory N. Hardy in some way or other, you closed it well. But you didn't have to close it, and I wonder if closing it was a good idea. Non-admin closure (to which your closure links) talks of "Clear keep outcomes after a full listing period (stated in the instructions to each XfD, this is usually seven days), absent any contentious debate among participants"; I'm not sure how "contentious" debate differs from any other debate, but anyway this debate was reasoned and principled, as indeed you seem to acknowledge ("With due respect to Fram and Ravenswing's deletion arguments...").

Perhaps closing this kind of discussion shouldn't be a matter for admins, but it is. Becoming an admin has become a grotesquely tiresome process since my time, but it's not insurmountable. If you'd like to make another attempt at it some time, I suggest that you err on the side of caution when deciding whether to close XfDs. -- Hoary (talk) 00:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Hoary, hope you're doing well. The Afd you refer to has a clear Keep outcome, with you as one of the Keep !voters. I can see your interpretation of why you believe non-admins should not close any Afd which might have witnessed weighty debates. WP:BADNAC, which is the section that guides editors on when non-admin closure is inappropriate, quotes that one such case could be when: "the outcome is a close call (especially where there are several valid outcomes) or likely to be controversial." If you believe this could have been the case and wish me to re-open the Afd, please do mention it and I shall do that. Do tell me if I can be of any other assistance.

At the same time, I'm also pinging a few editors who have commented here in the past and are regulars at Afd – Ritchie333, Ad Orientem, Xaosflux, SoWhy, HJ Mitchell – to request them for their view on whether they believe this Afd qualified on WP:BADNAC – that is, whether this Afd was a close call/had various possible outcomes/was controversial. Warmly. Lourdes 01:28, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

(pinged) While I agree with the close itself, Hoary has a point when they say you probably should have erred on the side of caution and let an admin handle it. As he points out, WP:NAC talks about "Clear keep outcomes after a full listing period (stated in the instructions to each XfD, this is usually seven days), absent any contentious debate among participants" (emphasis added) and in this case the debate seems to qualify as contentious even though it was civil. That said, I see no point in reopening the debate only to close it with the same outcome again. Just be more careful in future and maybe restrict yourself to NACs for XFDs without people arguing strongly for deletion. Regards SoWhy 05:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I believe that's a fair analysis SoWhy. Will keep this in mind in the future closes. Thanks. Lourdes 05:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I wasn't advocating a reopening of the discussion and I'm not advocating this now. For me to do so would, in Wikipedia jargon, be pointy. However, I'd be in favor of reopening it if anyone else gave any reason for doing so that was at least slightly plausible. (As for the " Non-admin closures" instructions, I'm still puzzled by the notion of a non-contentious debate. Sounds to me like a non-rolling ball, or non-cold ice cream.) -- Hoary ( talk) 23:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Hoary for this pointer. ("non-cold ice cream" :D True that!) See you around. Lourdes 01:28, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Fallon fox edit

Hello Lourdes,

While I'm sure you meant well, biology is not imaginary. Your reverting of my edits and your ignorant complicity with trans ideology makes you an enemy of women. You should feel shame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vulvawarrior (talk • contribs) 03:03, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Take your assertions about the gender of the subject to the said article's talk page and get consensus before attempting to re-add the changes. If you need any assistance doing this, feel free to ask me. Also, your name may be inappropriate, per our username policy. You could consider changing the same. Thanks. Lourdes 03:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

mind your words

i have added categories of the convicted rapist and criminal. Please go through media reports here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y21WG6u8d0 - I am cleaning up the article and correcting original research. Please mind your words dont imagine non sense assume good faith.

Bumbravathi (talk) 17:05, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Youtube is unreliable as a source. And your edits are removing cited material and adding uncited controversial material to the article. I've reverted your current edit as vandalism. You may get blocked if you continue this editing behavior. Come to the talk page of the article and discuss any controversial change. If you need help in understanding how to edit BLPs on Wikipedia, feel free to ask me. Warmly, Lourdes 17:47, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	For taking the time to rewrite and source an article at AfD, instead of just giving an opinion. E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

• Thanks E.M.Gregory. Love it. Lourdes 15:19, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks a lot for answering my question on Help Desk Abhijeet Safai (talk) 08:59, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lourdes 09:49, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Many thanks

Many thanks for guiding me to Wikipedia: Manual of Style/Text formatting at Wikipedia: Help desk. In all my years of editing Wikipedia, I am still learning things. Vorbee (talk) 15:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Vorbee, welcome anytime. Cheers. Lourdes 01:36, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Barnstar for You!

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		Thank you very much for fixing one of my awards on my user page. For that kind act, you get this barnstar! Futurist110 (talk) 03:10, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Futurist110. You're always welcome. Lourdes 03:11, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi Lourdes, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh666 21:01, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome Ansh666. And congratulations. Well done. Lourdes 21:52, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Leila Abukar

Hey, replying here since it's not really about the article, but just wanted to say thanks for the considered and thoughtful reply. It doesn't change my view of this particular case but I understand your reasoning. I re-nominated this one having found it in my history, and wanted to re-test consensus since the original AfD had not been very decisive. Frickeg (talk) 13:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello Frickeg and thanks for the gracious note. Cheers. Lourdes 02:37, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

It's also worth noting that Middayexpress had a significant impact on the first AfD, and is now topic banned. That's not a reason for deleting the article, but I'd say it is a good reason to re-run the AfD (CC Frickeg). Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:00, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Oh. I did not know that the user was topic-banned. That's a fresh perspective I did not have. Thanks. Lourdes 07:03, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Also Cordless Larry, any particular reason why you've not run for an Rfa till date? Thanks. Lourdes 07:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure that I have enough experience with administrative tasks such as closing discussions to run for admin, Lourdes, and neither am I really sure what I would do with the tools if I was made one. Cordless Larry ( talk) 16:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Cordless Larry. I see you quite active in Afds and you have commensurate experience in CSDs too. Your expertise could assist in these areas, if you had access to admin tools. Why don't you consider this (if not now, in the future)? Thanks. Lourdes 03:08, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Lourdes. I've previously told some others that I will consider it, so I will give it some proper thought. No promises, though! Cordless Larry ( talk) 07:43, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Ali Abbas (actor)

Hi, this has been renominated just 3 weeks after the previous AFD you closed as keep. Its the same nominator, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 17:41, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, Atlantic306, somewhat disruptive. I'll mention this in the Afd. Lourdes 09:56, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Thankyou for your help, greatly appreciated Atlantic306 ( talk) 13:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Trantunghdvn85pnhd (talk) 07:43, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Help Desk

I'm taking this off the Help Desk, because it's not really pertinent, and because if Tarook97 reads it there it's not really going to help matters, but (in reply to this):

One might hope so, but they've _already_ continued the mistake, as mentioned. It was very nearly the first thing they did upon their block running out - which is itself only their fourth block because a 6RR and a series of reverts just short of 3RR were allowed to pass without a block.

I was rather disappointed that the last AN:EW report didn't result in action, which might perhaps have finally driven the message home. It's not so much assuming good faith as hopeless optimism to suppose that anything will change now. Furthermore, if it did, would they become an asset? Their edits are, bluntly, generally not very useful. (This recent stuff at Arabs looks like good writing until one realises it's just copied off other Wikipedia pages, although I guess that's a step forward of a kind). Pinkbeast (talk) 04:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I know what you're saying . I appreciate your positive outlook ( "step forward") :) When I was a fresh editor here, I too made quite a few mistakes. Let's hope Tarook improves. My suggestion would be to try and help him again (and of course, if he doesn't change, then you can report him again). Good to see you drop in here. Hope you're well. Warmly. Lourdes 05:00, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for the lovely biscuit Ed :) I hope so too. Warmly. Lourdes 03:25, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

WWICS Group Of Companies

Dear User:Lourdes Please guide me on how to update content on the following page , and why it is getting deleted everytime before i can publish updated content requesting your help to take things ahead ,if you want the content please provide your email id i will provide what is to be updated revert awaited User:Abhinavpoonia

Hello Abhinavpoonia, while you can always email me by using this link, I would recommend that you please also read WP:COI and WP:Paid editing before you edit any article related to your organization. Thanks. Lourdes 09:39, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Dear User:Lourdes the wikipedia page for wwics group of companies existed for more than 1.5 years, we have kept a strong watch on not to face any plagiarism hence provided it with unique content, also a false claim has been placed that the information is being taken from the website, considering today's trends nobody will like to face a penalty from google for repeated lookalike content.but i still dont understand how come this happened why a deletion request was raised Regards User:Abhinavpoonia —Preceding undated comment added 10:09, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

You should read WP:ORG, which gives details on the criteria your organization needs to meet to claim inclusion at Wikipedia. Thanks. Lourdes 14:47, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Manny Lehman page

Hi Lourdes,

Thanks for your reply about the page I reported .. I am leaning towards keep (I dont think I have any influence ) but after your research there is evidence of great achievements. Sadly they were amiss.

If the page is kept and you would like help with sourcing citations etc I am happy assist you. I got laid off and I'm happy for something constructive to do in between job searching.

Best,

PiFunk

Hi PiFunk, sorry to know about your getting laid off. It would be good to collaborate with you on the article. I would suggest that you should read up on a few things before you start editing significantly here. Read WP:PILLARS, WP:EDITING and WP:REFB (and also the policies/guidelines cited within; you can skip the essays that are cited in some of these). Let's start work on the article after the Afd concludes. Warmly. Lourdes 05:11, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Orange High School Page

Hi Lourdes. I received a message from you that my edit of the Orange High School page was undone as it "did not appear constructive". However, my edit was reverting the vandalism, in this case the motto being changed to "Kill the Jews", the house names to "Hitler, Did, Nothing and Wrong", and one of the notable alumni being changed to Hillary Clinton. Reverting this seemed fairly constructive to me, and then when I go to the page it says its been reverted back to my edit anyway?

Was just a little confused as to what was going on. Thanks for your time. 0003c9fe (talk) 09:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Hello 0003c9fe. Your edit on the page is perfectly fine. Post your edit, an IP vandalized the page again. I reverted the page to your version, and instead of leaving a note on the IP's talk page, mistakenly left a note on your talk page; then I immediately undid my edit to your talk page, and left the relevant note on the IP's talk page. Sorry for the confusion; my bad. And thanks for the effort in reverting vandalism. Warmly, Lourdes 10:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Bavesh Padayachy

Hi, I had already prodded that article. Is there a specific reason why you disregarded that? Jarkeld (talk) 11:45, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Oh no. I think what happened was that when I opened up the Twinkle form and was filling it up, I took around four minutes to check some new sources I had found. In the meanwhile, you had prodded it. Just a simple edit conflict. Do suggest how should we proceed here? Should I undo my Afd or are you okay with the Afd proceeding? Much apologies for the edit conflict; not intended. Warmly, Lourdes 11:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

It's "lood om oud ijzer" between PROD or AFD (but afd is the more direct way). I'll file my comments at the Afd. No worries. Jarkeld ( talk) 11:55, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

oud ijzer is het. Thanks and look forward to your comments. Lourdes 11:58, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

WT:RFA

Just a note that I wasn't really criticizing you in my comment. Was only annotating where I got a good chuckle out of an otherwise longish humorless day. GMG^talk 13:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi GreenMeansGo :D Good to know that. I was waylaid by your edit summary of "Unhelpful comment". Nice to see you around. Cheers, Lourdes 14:05, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Dropped in to say thanks!

Hi, Lourdes - thank you for taking the time to edit & source Milyang No clan. Spirit of criticism is a prolific editor of clan categories and articles, and after a quick review of the work, it appears some guidance may be needed regarding WP:RS and WP:V. I know it's a bit much to ask of you, but would you take a look at them and help Spirit of criticism get them properly sourced and written? I would do it myself but I only speak English and a bit of ranch Spanish. 🤠 The only symbols I know come on branding irons. 𐂌 🐮 Thank you for all you do to make WP a quality encyclopedia! Happy editing. ^{Atsme📞📧} 14:40, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Atsme hi!!! Unfortunately, I too have no grasp of the Korean language/culture or anything close to it. I just did some extra work on the article and was fortunate to get some material. While I'll take a look at Spirit's contributions, I'm not sure I'll be much help (if knowing the Korean language or culture could have provided an advantage)... Thanks for your gracious withdrawal of the Afd nomination. Cheers, Lourdes 15:02, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

What doesn't link here

Saw this at Help Desk and have installed it. I have always wanted this to save manual searching. (I didn't even know about the linksto in Search - I believe WMF is planning to add a menu with these options to Search sometime). Thanks for the script. One suggestion, what do you think about shortening the name so it fits on one line in the Tool box like everything else (at least all the ones I currently have). MB 15:49, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi MB, how you doing! And sure, why not; suggest some good shorter name. I kept "What doesn't link here" as a direct play on the title "What links here". I also thought about "What links here (Not!)", but thought it would seem to borat'ish. Anyway, suggest away. Warmly, Lourdes 15:53, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Well if it were positioned right under "What Links Here", it could just be "And Doesn't" - but I don't think that is possible. I don't have a suggestion for anything I really like. Maybe "What doesn't link" or "Possible Backlinks". MB 16:51, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

"Possible backlinks" actually sounds good. Let me also give it a thought overnight and try to come up with some alternatives. Thanks, Lourdes 16:57, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

MB, I've changed the name to "Possible backlinks". You'll have to delete the old script and reinstall the new script as described at User:Lourdes/Backlinks. Thanks for the quick feedback. Warmly, Lourdes 02:44, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:List of members of the Lok Sabha (1952–present)#Split proposal

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of members of the Lok Sabha (1952–present)#Split proposal. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk • contribs) 22:41, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Sure Jd22292. Have left my comments. Thanks, Lourdes 02:06, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851

I suggest to nominate Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851 for TFA for 11 February which is possible now. Do you and Sarastro1 agree? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Gerda, how have you been doing? All well at your end I hope. It's been long since I chatted up with you. TFA for 11 February sounds great. I thought you had already nominated the same? Do correct me if I'm wrong. Warmly, Lourdes 08:16, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Lourdes, thank you, - yes it was pending, but I forgot when they introduced that I have to ask before nominating someone else. I am mostly fine, no health problems right now, - just the thought that I abuse thank-you-clicks is disturbing (I use them A LOT, to express fast support with an edit I like), but I have my ignore button to get over it. How are you? -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 08:30, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh I am sure Sarastro also will agree. I am doing very well Gerda. It's always sweet to have you drop by. Lourdes 08:42, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

I nominated, you are welcome to support, and needed to shorten the blurb ;) -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:39, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda, I've tried to tighten the blurb too. <3 Lourdes 16:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Definitely OK with me. Sarastro ( talk) 21:42, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry for my edit,,, Lord Butthead i mean Lourdes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.252.127.219 (talk) 03:44, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, your attempts at calling me names apart, it's good you stopped vandalizing after one attempt; continuing such behavior will result in an eventual block. If you need help in understand how to edit productively on Wikipedia, do ask. Lourdes 14:29, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

• Hi K.e.coffman, that's so nice of you to remember to wish me. ❤️ and wishes for a lovely time during these holidays. Have a great time, Lourdes 04:36, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

Oh my these are wonderful wishes. Thank you so much for remembering. A very merry Christmas and a beautiful new year to you too. ❤️ Lourdes 06:21, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

• Davey2010, Merry Christmas to you and your family too. Hope you have a beautiful and peaceful new year!!! ❤️ and wishes to all, Lourdes 17:10, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas !!!

CAPTAIN RAJU(T) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

• Hey Cap, it's wonderful to get your wishes. All the Christmas cheer and love for you and your family. ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ Lourdes 13:23, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Ad Orientem, this is the season for me to get such beautiful wishes! My love and season's cheers to you and your family on Christmas. ❤️ always, Lourdes 18:44, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2018!

Hello Lourdes, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2018. Happy editing, Chris Troutman (talk) 00:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

• Hi Chris, it's absolutely lovely to get your beautiful wishes. I hope you and your family are doing well. I also hope Christmas was wonderful. Loving new year wishes for you and all close to you. Lourdes 09:09, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

Backlinks for complex article names

I enjoy using Backlinks to find missing links. Thank you for providing it.

It is possible to add quotes on the article name when it has characters such as "-" ? My test case is Stratford-sub-Castle. The generated search finds too many:

Stratford-sub-Castle -linksto:Stratford-sub-Castle

but if I add quotes the results are better:

"Stratford-sub-Castle" -linksto:Stratford-sub-Castle

Wire723 (talk) 13:19, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Wire723, good to know you enjoy the script. That's a nice suggestion you've given. I've implemented it. Do test it out and tell me if it works. Love and wishes for the new year, Lourdes 15:09, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

The change works well. Thanks again. Wire723 ( talk) 18:10, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Unnat Jeevan by Affordable Appliances and LEDs for All

Thanks for fixing this article at AfD! I've removed the deletion proposal. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 19:22, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Sure Elliot321. Thanks for withdrawing the nomination. Lourdes 02:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

American Cinema Editors page

Hello, I updated information about Tim Porter, the winner of the 2017 award, as it was missing. Not sure why you don't suggest that it was a constructive addition? It would be great to know how to amend it so that it is!

Thanks, Littlemikebush p— Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlemikebush p (talk • contribs) 12:33, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Littlemikebush. I noticed the addition of a spelling mistake in the first word, which seemed unconstructive. Thanks, Lourdes 12:37, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Request for adminship

I have replied why I want to be an admin in the question 1. I recommend to transclude my nomination request on the RFA page.--Mark Linton (talk) 14:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

• Nope Mark. I won't. Your Rfa would be not successful. Neither do you have significant experience in maintenance areas, nor is your nom statement credible. Please don't take this otherwise – your work at Wikipedia is otherwise net positive. Read the link I've left on your talk page, gain experience in maintenance areas, and re-apply in a year or two. Thanks, Lourdes 14:15, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
• @Mark Linton: None of what you say you want to do as an admin (Q1) requires the admin toolset. I agree with Lourdes, particularly the advice to read the page she linked on your talk page. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 14:49, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Dear Lourdes

To my understanding, you are utilizing this platform of information distribution to consider my work to be skeptical. Pleased be advised that despite of the research that is done in regards to Raymond Scott a/k/a/ Benzino, please be advised that I have personally worked with him, collaborated with him. as well as worked to ameliorate his standing in music, more than many other contributors that provide on Wikipedia. In somewhat terms, it makes me feel agitated, if that is the right term to use. This source of communication is prominent on the basis of freedom of speech, and unfortunately, I do not appreciate when someone is attempting to police me what is right and what is wrong. You may not even know him and his family personally, but does that not matter to you? This information policing should be negated from such sites. In all, I hope that my article would continue to be present and not deleted. Best wishes to you and your family good health and wealth. More Life and happy new year. Regards Taz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tejsodhi (talk • contribs) 18:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

(by talk reader)@Tejsodhi: You do not have any freedom of speech on this website. Please leave Wikipedia if you cannot respect Wikipedia's Terms of Use, policies, and guidelines. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:20, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

http://www.datpiff.com/Benzino-Sentimental-Rhythms-mixtape.851455.html this is the trace of the mixtape — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tejsodhi (talk • contribs) 18:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

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Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851 scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Van Diemen's Land v Port Phillip, 1851 has been scheduled as today's featured article for 11 February 2018. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 11, 2018. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:32, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Ealdgyth. Hope you're doing well. Thank you for the note. I had already updated the proposed blurb. Will look into the article once again. Warmly, Lourdes 19:15, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on this! Although TFA day can sometimes be stressful; I'm never sure whether it's better to have a lot of people reading it and lots of interest, or for it to pass quietly without drama. Sarastro ( talk) 23:23, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Sarastro1, hello. It's always such a pleasure to see the talk page notification mention that you've left a message. How have you been doing? My love and wishes of the new year for you and your family. Thank you so much for the congratulations. But let me be absolutely honest – the day you reached out to me offering to lead this article's development and the FA lessons I learnt from you thereon, are more cherished by me than the article coming on the main page. I don't deserve these congratulations – you do, as always. Thank you once again. I'll drop in by to chat one of these days. Again, ❤️ and new year wishes. Most warmly, Lourdes 01:11, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

• Sarastro1! Yay! :):):) Lourdes 04:44, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for "the first first-class cricket match to take place in Australia, although that is more of a quirk of history as the concept of such games is rather anachronistic. However, it was a grand occasion and the first cricket game between two colonies/states in Australia."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

That's for you Sarastro. Thank you Gerda, on both our behalf. Lourdes 14:50, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry I wasn't around much for TFA day. Life is scarily busy at the moment! But it seemed to pass without too much carnage. Congratulations again, and you do deserve them. The article wouldn't have happened without you and your research. Sarastro ( talk) 22:20, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :) Lourdes 07:31, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Good luck

I was very happy to see your RfA! I had been meaning to email encouraging you to throw your hat in the ring: you’re more than capable of advanced twinkle use . Anyway, best of luck. Also, always will be good to have another SWAT member. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:25, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Tony :) Lourdes 03:28, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

All the best!

I hope your RfA would be successful this time and wish you all the very best for it. Dial911 (talk) 03:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Dial. I hope so too. Warmly, Lourdes 04:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Good luck

..and well done. I won't echo my supporting vote too much, but the humility and ability to accept criticism is what's going to make you a great admin - TNT^❤ 09:20, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks There'sNoTime, your words are too kind at the RfA. Lourdes 09:43, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Best of luck!

Glad to see another throw their hat in the ring! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 13:08, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Amorymeltzer; I hope I at least get the hat back, at the end of all this :) Good to see your question. Lourdes 13:09, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

And ​ thanks for the absolutely lovely words of support. Couldn't have got more or asked for more. Lourdes 13:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Congrats. I think your hat got lost so you won't be getting it back, but perhaps your new one will suffice? ~ Amory (u • t • c) 12:51, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Amory; you're the best. Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Signature code

Hi there. I noticed you use

'''[[User talk:Lourdes|Lourdes]]'''

as your signature. This seems problematic because due to the placement of the tags, the span-tag closes after the a-tag. It should actually be nested. Alternatives could be:

'''[[User talk:Lourdes|Lourdes]]''' which produces Lourdes

or

[[User talk:Lourdes|Lourdes]] which produces Lourdes

The latter is shorter but provides a stronger signature on this page because of the way the software bolds self-links. The first alternative produces the same output as your current signature but keeps the code correctly nested and within the link. Regards SoWhy 08:28, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

SoWhy, noted and changed promptly. Thanks, Lourdes 04:33, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Recognition

		The Good Heart Barnstar
		Two things I've learned are that a) Admins come in a number of varieties. There is not a one-size fits all model. b) On many issues, good editors can disagree and it doesn't make sense to turn those disagreements into fights because we're all on the same side, really. Your comment really struck me. Although I still agree with the substance of my disagreement, upon reading your comment I instantly regretted what I had said. I honestly wish you the best of luck being an admin. Wikipedia benefits from your efforts here. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:57, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

• ❤️ Lourdes 04:31, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations

Thank you for stepping forward to serve the project in new ways. Have a safe trip. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:05, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Cullen328. Thank you for supporting too. Lourdes 07:09, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I got quite a laugh from that!

Shitpot Fry here to say that I laughed out loud over that, and blushed a little too! --Tryptofish (talk) 19:14, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Ha ha. You're a good sport. ​Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Your request for adminship

With 207 supporters, Lourdes' request for adminship is the first to succeed in 2018 (image courtesy of Linguist111).

Greetings Lourdes, I have closed your request for adminship as successful. Congratulations for both your successful nomination and for your place on WP:RFX200 - an impressive feat! As always, the administrators' reading list is worth reading and the new admin help pages are most certainly available if you feel that you might require some practice with the tools in a safe environment prior to applying them elsewhere on the project. Good luck! Acalamari 02:51, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks.​Sorry for the resulting drama, Lourdes

Congrats, Lourdes! First (and hopefully not only) successful RFA of 2018. Best of luck with your new tools - don't hesitate to ask me anything GAB^gab 02:53, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Your question was a killer at the RfA.​I loved answering it. Thanks GAB for that and for this message. Lourdes

Indeed, welcome to SWAT. Good place to be :) Also (as above), should you need any help with advanced Twinkle, feel free to ask, but I'm sure you'll figure it out fine. TonyBallioni ( talk) 03:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• I love the SWAT acronym :)​I'll surely reach out to you, GAB or other admins for assistance. Thanks Tony, Lourdes

Congrats on your promotion! Lepricavark ( talk) 03:18, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks for supporting it Lepricavark. Lourdes

Yes, you'll make a great admin! Congratulations! Jjjjjjdddddd ( talk) 03:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• When I saw a support from Jjjjjjdddddd and then immediately from Hhhhhkohhhhh, I was wondering what's up :D Thanks Jjjjjjdddddd. Lourdes

• Felicitations on your passing RfA. Take it slow for the first few days while you figure out where all the new buttons are and what they do. And feel free to ask any of us for help. I think you will be a great asset to the team. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Yes Ad Orientem, I shall surely do that. I'm thankful to you all for accepting my RfA. Thank you Ad, Lourdes

Congratulations, Lourdes! :-) Rehman 13:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you Rehman. Lourdes

Congratulation for having your tools removed in record time! Seriously though, congratulations for a well-run RfA. This place will be better because you have to tools. I'm glad you stepped up to serve. 78.26_{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:56, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

:D 78.26, I'm not sure they're going to give it back to me. Lourdes

They probably won't unless you ask.... Please do. 78.26_{(spin me / revolutions)} 13:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

I shall, after this initial phase becomes calmer ​:) Lourdes 02:39, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I join my fellow Wikipedians to congratulate you for passing the RFA. Wikipedia needs more people like you holding the mop.-- Jetstreamer  ^Talk 16:48, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• Thank you Jetstreamer. I appreciate your support in the RfA and your query too. Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on becoming 2018's first new admin! Linguist^unEins^uno 19:49, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• As someone said on this page Linguist111, hopefully not the only one. Thank you for your query in the RfA and your subsequent support. Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Missed out on the BN drama, although I thought the request was highly unusual but it was understandable after reading the explanation. My sentiment is along the lines with Beeblebrox. Congratulations, and take care. Alex Shih ( talk) 05:49, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Alex, I hope I don't end up creating any more like that...Phew :) Lourdes 07:35, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Congrats!!! S Philbrick(Talk) 18:52, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Sphilbrick, it's so nice to hear again from you. Hope your travels were comfortable and the family doing well too. Congratulations again to you too for the great news. Love for the same, Lourdes 02:45, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Congrats, Lourdes! You'll make a great admin. Centibyte^(talk) 13:58, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Centibyte. Warmly, Lourdes 14:12, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Congrats! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:58, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• The ed17, the beer's on me! Thank you :) Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Congratulations for your successful RfA! Its great to see new admins coming in! L293D (☎ • ✎) 03:03, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• L293D, thank you for the tasty brownie :) Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

ping

A beer for you!

Here's a celebratory pint for you! Congratulations on your RfA passing! TheSandDoctor (talk) 04:40, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll share the pint with you TheSandDoctor. Thanks once more. Lourdes

-- TheSandDoctor ( talk) 03:59, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Your request at BN

I've processed the request you made at BN, when you return please start a new section on BN for re-flagging. Please note, there is a standard 24-hour hold from request to fulfillment. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 04:49, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Xaosflux. I'll follow that. Lourdes 03:51, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

"welcome back"! — xaosflux^Talk 17:48, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

:D Thank you Xao Lourdes 18:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing

Hi,
Congrats on the A-ship!!

I've just started doing some new page reviewing; I've done only half-a-dozen or so, (I'm a bit cautious about it) but I noticed that the feed contains unreviewed pages from 10 years back, or longer. I've reviewed some but then thought there might be a reason why there are a number of ancient entries? I'm concerned I must be missing something! Case in point is Kanam which had been loitering since July 2006. It's a very short article but 'typical' of many articles about the Sub-Continent. Any observations (about that or 'generally')? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats Eagleash.

You're right; there are some ancient entries that have remained unreviewed for ages. One reason is because reviewers (for example, like me) skip articles that we're unsure of (for example, on topics that are niche), hoping someone else might review them later – and they simply remain unreviewed for long. Till last year, the page notice at the top of Special:NewPages contained the legend: "Please consider patrolling pages from the back of the unpatrolled backlog." for all editors. Since January this year, the legend is shown only to editors who have the new page reviewer right.

Over time, I've developed a detrimental habit of only checking the recent entries – I expect other reviewers might have this habit too (the pressures of raking up a good CSD rate, etc). Anyway, this is an issue that doesn't have any fix, except in the plain old way, which is to go back to the end of the list and start from there – which is what you seem to be doing nicely. Hope this provides you some basis.

Other than this, how have you been doing? Hope all is well. Warmly, Lourdes 18:14, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to reply before this but somehow it got pushed down the list of things to do! Thanks for encouragement. So far no-one has bobbed up and said 'you're doing it all wrong'. One thing I've discovered about the very old pages is that they are sometimes the subject of a very slow, very long, edit war. They get merged or redirected, someone reverts and they end up on the review list again. (That's what happened with Kanam...there was also an ancient merge disc. at the TP which I closed...actually before I realised what had happened!) I also find myself copy-editing or fixing articles when I come to review them and I'm not sure I should be doing that at that time. All helps though I suppose.

All is not too bad at the moment but RL was a bit of a nuisance a lot of last year. I really should get back into creating actual content again sometime! Best regards, Eagleash ( talk) 23:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

That's an additional information for me, about the old pages in the review. I'll keep my eye out for such articles too. My best wishes as always Eagleash. Warmly, Lourdes 01:18, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your apology. :) I harbor no grudge and wish you a successful adminship! Acalamari 19:04, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Acalamari. Lourdes 06:32, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Violation

Administrator Lourdes, I come to you with a question. I have recently transformed WestJet Encore, an old article that was a little longer than a stub to a 5x expansion and DYK appearing in about 30 hours. Recently, there was an edit by User:WestJet. Note that the user's name is not Westjet, but WestJet.

WP:USERNAME is a Wikipedia policy, not a suggestion or a guideline. Part of the policy, stated in a box, reads "Usernames that only contain the names of companies, organizations, websites, musical groups or bands, teams, or public internet channels or creative groups are not allowed".

I want to look the other way and ignore the violation of Wikipedia policy. What should be done? Leave it alone and only selectively enforce policy, which may be seen as unfair? Or instruct the user to change username? I sort of like the WestJet name. As you can see, I put a lot of effort into the WestJet Encore article. Can you provide guidance and take over the matter? Or should the policy be changed?

Vanguard10 (talk) 04:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

I've requested the username be blocked; I've warned the user to adhere to our paid editing policy and conflict of interest guidelines. If there's any further promotional edit, feel free to talk me up. Lourdes 06:10, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Vanguard10, the account has been blocked as of right now. The user has been advised to choose a username that adheres to our username policy and to make edits only after they follow our paid editing policy and conflict of interest guidelines. Thanks, Lourdes 14:15, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidance. I'm not a newbie but still learn things about WP. A few days ago, someone pointed out a better way or correct way to do things in DYK. I hope that even a soft block does not create anger.

One problem I see with the policy is that it makes people go into hiding. If the user was being paid (not clear cut now) but edited under the user name of Eastprop (east not west, prop not jet) or Lardes2 (not Lourdes), nobody would suspect a corporate link (if there was one). Maybe it might be better to ask people to just admit or disclose a link. Vanguard10 ( talk) 17:51, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Vanguard10, our paid editing policy does precisely that. But irrespective of the policy, a username that promotes the name of a business is unacceptable; and that is why the soft block instead of a hard block. A soft block allows them to change the user name; a hard block doesn't allow that. Lourdes 01:20, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Vanguard10, just so you know, I'm not sour or anything (the unblocking was fairly quick) but I'd thought I'd clarify in case you couldn't see the discussion on my talk page. I don't represent WS, I am also not paid by them. According to Lourdes, I've made about six edits over a decade to WestJet related articles. Most of which were style or vandalism related (like capitalizing Westjet to WestJet). I started editing as an IP account, but realized that making a user name was better. I did this in like 2006, and I would have been like 16-17 and in high school. I don't know what WP:USERNAME was like back then, but I didn't think it would be an issue almost ten years later. I also had the WestJet username on YouTube before WestJet actually took it over. So, hopefully that helps you out a bit. MattBinYYC ( talk) 02:04, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Matt, I've replied on your talk page. Thanks, Lourdes 02:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Your adminship

Hello, as the person who does most of the maintaining at Wikipedia:Former administrators, could I ask when you plan to request your adminship be reinstated? I was planning not to add your adminship to the lists and wait until it was re-added to record it because (a) adding a user is work that is avoidable when adminship will be re-added again soon, and (b) I have no idea how to classify your situation. There have been some subsequent desysopped admins for activity which is why I'm asking now. If it were up to me, I'd prefer that you get your adminship reinstated as soon as possible. Thanks! Graham87 09:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Hello Graham87, I've seen you around and admire the work you do here. I'll be requesting reinstatement at the BN at the earliest possible, but due to a combination of time-consuming RL work and some lined-up performances, I can't put a finger on which date exactly would it be. I don't know what should be the next step for you, but if you wish to add my name to the former admin list, please do so. Once more, all my admiration for your work here. Lourdes 09:38, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your kind words. Since I have time at this moment, and you're not certain when exactly you'll be able to request resysopping, I think I'll deal with the desysopped admins list now. I'll add you under the "resigned" section, because that would most closely match your situation. Graham87 11:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)