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New Trial[edit]

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If a new trial is granted by the judge that Eric Nelson, the attorney, is filing for, will we change it back to "Death of George Floyd" or "Killing of George Floyd" since that would invalidate the other trial? Dashoopa (talk) 00:52, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Maybe we shouldn't worry about that until and if he is granted a new trial. 331dot (talk) 01:02, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
We should, since I would like to know IF it is granted and there is a high likelihood it is in light of recent evidence about one of the jurors. Dashoopa (talk) 01:33, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
That's just your opinion. It's unlikely to be granted. University of St. Thomas law professor Rachel Moran told CBS Minnesota that it's unlikely Chauvin's legal team will succeed in overturning the verdict. "It's really hard to overturn a conviction, and courts are especially reluctant to interfere with the jury deliberation process," Moran said.[1] We can discuss it if it is granted. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:41, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
That's one opinion. There are plenty of lawyers that disagree with that. [2], [3] Also, I'm asking because I want to know if Wikipedia will do honest editing or not. Dashoopa (talk) 02:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Article titles covers Wikipedia's policy.—Bagumba (talk) 01:50, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
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Omission of the racial and ethnic identity of J. Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane[edit]

It is important to give the racial and ethnic identities of Alexander Kueng and Thomas Lane considering how much of the discussion revolves around race and currently the article is lacking in this respect. Floyd, Chauvin, and Thao are already respectively identified as black-American, white-American, and Hmong-American. I believe Lane is white while I know Keung's identity and that it is a bit more problematic. His father is described as black (Nigerian) and his mother as white. Despite being mixed-race and raised solely by his white mother, he is described as black, such as in this article by the NYT. Shouldn't this information be added in? --2603:9001:510A:C000:3CA5:45A1:ACD4:313 (talk) 05:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately we have no choice but to go by RS...I think... This is the same situation as that of former president Obama who has a black father from Kenya and a white mother, who raised him, and yet he is referred to as Black, not "mixed race". As far as I know, black/white mixed race people almost always ask to be identified as black--if they look Black. But, in a way, it does almost seem to go back to the "one drop rule", doesn't it? OK, back on topic I agree with you about including race. Gandydancer (talk) 09:40, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Federal charges in lede[edit]

I see the indictment under "Federal investigation", but isn't that big enough for the lede?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)