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Инструкции для администратора

Перенаправления для обсуждения ( RfD ) - это место, где обсуждаются потенциально проблемные перенаправления . Элементы обычно остаются в списке в течение недели или около того, после чего они удаляются, сохраняются или перенаправляются.

  • Если вы хотите заменить незащищенный редирект статьей, указывать ее здесь не нужно. Полностью приветствуется преобразование перенаправлений в статьи. Смелее !
  • Если вы хотите переместить страницу, но мешает перенаправление, не указывайте его здесь. По не спорным случаям размещайте технический запрос ; если требуется обсуждение, начните запрошенный ход .
  • Если вы думаете, что перенаправление указывает на неправильную целевую статью, это хорошее место для обсуждения того, что должно быть правильной целью.
  • Редиректы не следует удалять только потому, что в них нет входящих ссылок. Пожалуйста, не используйте это как единственную причину для удаления перенаправления. Тем не менее, переадресовывает , что делать есть входящие ссылки иногда удаляется, так что это не является достаточным условием для хранения. (Дополнительную информацию см. В § Когда следует удалять перенаправление? ).

Пожалуйста, не меняйте цель перенаправления, пока она обсуждается. Это добавляет ненужного усложнения дискуссии как для потенциальных близких, так и для участников.

Перед включением перенаправления для обсуждения [ править ]

Помните об этих общих правилах, которые применяются здесь, как и везде:

  • Википедия: Перенаправление  - что такое перенаправления, почему они существуют и как используются.
  • Википедия: Критерии быстрого удаления  - какие страницы можно удалить без обсуждения; в частности разделы « Общие » и « Перенаправления ».
  • Википедия: Политика удаления  - как мы удаляем вещи консенсусом.
  • Википедия: Руководство по удалению  - рекомендации по формату обсуждения и сокращению.

Руководящие принципы RfD [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RGUIDE
  • Цель хорошего перенаправления - исключить возможность того, что читатели будут тупо смотреть на «Результаты поиска 1–10 из 378» вместо статьи, которую они искали. Если кто-то может правдоподобно ввести имя перенаправления при поиске целевой статьи, это хорошее перенаправление.
  • Перенаправления дешевы . Они занимают мало места для хранения и используют очень небольшую полосу пропускания. Это не повредит вещам, если их несколько разбросаны вокруг. С другой стороны, удаление перенаправлений также обходится дешево, потому что запись удаления занимает мало места в хранилище и использует очень небольшую полосу пропускания. Нет никакого вреда в удалении проблемных редиректов.
  • Если добросовестная номинация RfD предлагает удалить перенаправление и не обсуждается в течение как минимум 7 дней, результатом по умолчанию является удаление .
  • Перенаправления, назначенные в нарушение Википедии: Перенаправление будет быстро сохранено .
  • RfD также может служить центральным дискуссионным форумом для обсуждения того, на какую страницу следует нацелить перенаправление. В случаях, когда перенаправление перенаправления может считаться спорным, рекомендуется оставить уведомление на странице обсуждения текущей целевой страницы перенаправления или предлагаемой целевой страницы, чтобы направить читателей к назначению перенаправления, чтобы разрешить ввод и помочь сформировать консенсус для перенаправления. цель.
  • Запросы на удаление переадресации с одной страницы обсуждения на другую страницу не нужно перечислять здесь. Кто угодно может удалить перенаправление, очистив страницу. G6 критерий для быстрого удаления может быть целесообразным.
  • В обсуждениях всегда спрашивайте себя, поможет ли переадресация читателю.

Когда следует удалять редирект? [ редактировать ]


Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # ВРЕДНЫЙ

Основные причины, по которым удаление перенаправлений вредно :

  • редирект может содержать нетривиальную историю редактирования;
  • если перенаправление достаточно старое (или является результатом перемещения страницы, которая находилась там довольно долгое время), то возможно, что его удаление нарушит входящие ссылки (такие ссылки, поступающие из более старых версий страниц Википедии, из сводок редактирования , из других проектов Викимедиа или из других источников в Интернете , не отображаются в разделе «Какие ссылки здесь» ).

Поэтому рассматривайте удаление только вредоносных перенаправлений или недавних.

Причины удаления [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # УДАЛИТЬ

Вы можете удалить перенаправление, если выполняется одно или несколько из следующих условий ( но обратите внимание также на исключения, перечисленные под этим списком ):

  1. Страница перенаправления неоправданно затрудняет пользователям поиск статей с похожими названиями через поисковую систему. Например, если пользователь выполняет поиск по запросу «Новые статьи» и перенаправляется на страницу разрешения неоднозначности для «Статей», ему потребуется гораздо больше времени, чтобы перейти к недавно добавленным статьям в Википедии.
  2. Перенаправление может вызвать путаницу. Например, если «Адам Б. Смит» был перенаправлен на «Эндрю Б. Смит», потому что Эндрю был случайно назван Адамом в одном источнике, это могло вызвать путаницу со статьей об Адаме Смите , поэтому перенаправление следует удалить.
  3. Перенаправление является оскорбительным или оскорбительным, например, перенаправление «Блог Джо - неудачник» на «Блог Джо» (если в статье законно не обсуждается «Блоггс Джо» на «Неудачник»). ( Могут применяться критерии быстрого удаления G10 и G3 .)
  4. Перенаправление представляет собой саморекламу или спам. ( Может применяться критерий быстрого удаления G11 .)
  5. Перенаправление не имеет смысла, например перенаправление «Apple» на «Orange». ( Может применяться критерий быстрого удаления G1 .)
  6. Это перекрестное перенаправление пространства имен из пространства статьи, например перенаправление в пространство имен User или Wikipedia. Основным исключением из этого правила являются перенаправления ярлыков псевдо-пространства имен , которые технически находятся в основном пространстве статьи. Некоторые давние перенаправления между пространствами имен также сохраняются из-за их давней истории и потенциальной полезности. Например, перенаправления « MOS: » являются исключением из этого правила. (Примечание «РГ:» перенаправление в пространстве имен Википедии, WP: будучи псевдоним для Википедии: . Speedy критерий удаления R2 может также применяться , если если редирект из основных пунктов статьи пространства имен в категорию:, Шаблон: , Википедия: , Help: и Portal: Пространства имен).
  7. Если перенаправление не работает, то есть перенаправляет на несуществующую статью, ее можно немедленно удалить в соответствии с критерием быстрого удаления G8 , хотя вы должны убедиться, что нет альтернативного места, куда оно могло бы быть соответствующим образом перенаправлено первым.
  8. Если переадресация является новым или очень малоизвестным синонимом названия статьи, она вряд ли будет полезна. В частности, как правило, не следует создавать перенаправления на языке, отличном от английского, на страницу, тема которой не связана с этим языком (или культурой, которая говорит на этом языке). Недопустимые опечатки или неправильные названия являются кандидатами на критерий быстрого удаления R3 , если они были созданы недавно.
  9. Если целевую статью нужно переместить в заголовок перенаправления, но перенаправление было отредактировано ранее и имеет собственную историю, тогда заголовок необходимо освободить, чтобы освободить место для перемещения. Если ход не вызывает сомнений, пометьте перенаправление для быстрого удаления G6 или, в качестве альтернативы (с suppressredirectправом пользователя; доступно для переносчиков страниц и администраторов), выполните циклическое перемещение . Если нет, отнесите статью к Запрошенным ходам .
  10. Если редирект может быть расширен до статьи, а целевая статья практически не содержит информации по теме.

Причины не удаления [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD № KEEP

Однако не удаляйте такие перенаправления, если:

  1. У них есть потенциально полезная история страниц или история редактирования, которую следует вести в соответствии с требованиями лицензирования для слияния (см. Википедия: Слияние и удаление ). С другой стороны, если перенаправление было создано путем переименования страницы с этим именем, и в истории страниц просто упоминается переименование, и по одной из вышеуказанных причин вы хотите удалить страницу, скопируйте историю страницы на страницу обсуждения статья, на которую он перенаправляет. Акт переименования полезен для истории страниц, и тем более, если было обсуждение имени страницы.
  2. Они могут способствовать случайному связыванию и снизить вероятность создания дублирующих статей , будь то перенаправление множественного числа в единственное число, перенаправление частых орфографических ошибок на правильное написание, перенаправление неправильного названия на правильный термин, перенаправление на синоним и т. Д. Другими словами, перенаправления без входящих ссылок не являются кандидатами на удаление по этим причинам, потому что они полезны для просматривающего пользователя. От редакторов потребуется некоторая дополнительная бдительность, чтобы свести к минимуму появление этих частых орфографических ошибок в текстах статей, потому что связанные с ними орфографические ошибки не будут отображаться как неработающие ссылки.
  3. Они помогают поиску на определенных условиях. Например, если кто-то увидит где-то упомянутое «состояние краеугольного камня », но не знает, к чему это относится, то он или она сможет узнать об этом в статье о Пенсильвании (целевой).
  4. Вы рискуете сломать входящие или внутренние ссылки, удалив перенаправление. Например, перенаправления, возникающие в результате перемещения страниц, обычно не следует удалять без уважительной причины. Ссылки, которые существовали в течение значительного периода времени, включая ссылки CamelCase и ссылки на старые подстраницы , следует оставить в покое на случай, если на внешних страницах есть какие-либо существующие ссылки, указывающие на них.
  5. Кто-то считает их полезными. Подсказка: если кто-то говорит, что считает редирект полезным, вероятно, так оно и есть. Возможно, вы не сочтете это полезным - это не потому, что другой человек лжет, а потому, что вы просматриваете Википедию по-разному. Инструмент просмотра страниц также может свидетельствовать о внешней полезности.
  6. Редирект к тесно связанной форме слова, такие как форма множественного числа к форме единственного числа .

Нейтральность переадресации [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RNEUTRAL

Подобно тому, как заголовки статей, использующие ненейтральный язык , разрешены в некоторых случаях , такие переадресации разрешены . Поскольку переадресация менее заметна для читателей, в их именах допускается большая свобода. Таким образом, предполагаемое отсутствие нейтральности в именах переадресации не является достаточной причиной для их удаления. В большинстве случаев ненейтральные, но поддающиеся проверке перенаправления должны указывать на статьи с нейтральным заголовком, посвященные теме термина. Ненейтральные перенаправления могут быть помечены .{{R from non-neutral name}}

Ненейтральные перенаправления обычно создаются по трем причинам:

  1. Статьи, созданные с использованием ненейтральных заголовков, обычно перемещаются в новый нейтральный заголовок, который оставляет старый ненейтральный заголовок в качестве рабочего перенаправления (например, разногласия по электронной почте Climategate → Climatic Research Unit ).
  2. Статьи, созданные как вилки POV, могут быть удалены и заменены перенаправлением, указывающим на статью, из которой возникла вилка (например, мусульманский слух Барака Обамы → удален и теперь перенаправлен на теорию заговора религии Барака Обамы ).
  3. Тематика статей может быть представлена ​​некоторыми источниками за пределами Википедии в ненейтральных терминах. Таких терминов обычно избегают в заголовках статей Википедии, чтобы избежать рекомендаций и общей политики нейтральной точки зрения . Например, ненейтральное выражение « Attorneygate » используется для перенаправления на нейтрально названный спор об увольнении американских поверенных . В статье, о которой идет речь, никогда не использовалось это название, но перенаправление было создано, чтобы предоставить альтернативные средства доступа к нему, потому что этот термин используется в ряде сообщений прессы.

Исключениями из этого правила будут перенаправления, которые не являются установленными условиями и вряд ли будут полезны, и поэтому могут быть номинированы на удаление, возможно, по причине удаления № 3 . Однако, если перенаправление представляет собой установленный термин, который используется в нескольких основных надежных источниках , его следует сохранить, даже если он не является нейтральным, поскольку он облегчит поиск по таким условиям. Помните, что RfD - не то место, где разрешается большинство редакционных споров.

Заключительные примечания [ править ]

Подробности в: Инструкции для администратора RfD .

Кандидатуры должны оставаться открытыми в соответствии с политикой примерно за неделю до закрытия, если они не соответствуют общим критериям быстрого удаления , критериям быстрого удаления перенаправления или не являются действительными запросами на обсуждение перенаправления (например, фактически являются запросами на перемещение ).

Как выставить редирект для обсуждения [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # HOWTO
  • Пожалуйста, подумайте об использовании здесь ссылок What, чтобы найти другие перенаправления, которые могут быть связаны с тем, который вы назначаете. После перехода на целевую страницу перенаправления и выбора «Какие ссылки здесь» на панели инструментов в левой части экрана компьютера выберите фильтры «Скрыть включения» и «Скрыть ссылки», чтобы отобразить перенаправления на целевую страницу перенаправления.

Текущий список [ править ]

5 мая [ править ]

Шаблон: Cote web [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Cote web → Шаблон: Cite web ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Перенаправление орфанной опечатки с 2 просмотрами страниц; неправдоподобно коснуться типа ({{ Вопр Эрн }} является более вероятно , опечатка) Dudhhr ( разговор ) 2:04, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Хранить в Википедии: Перенаправление # K5 . Когда я его создавал, было по крайней мере одно включение , которое нарушало рекомендации WP: REDNOT и загромождало отчеты, такие как Special: WantedTemplates . Существование такого включения показывает, что это правдоподобная опечатка (буква «o» на клавиатуре находится на расстоянии одной буквы от «i»). В документации на {{ R от неправильного написания }} говорится: Используйте этот шаблон rcat в любом пространстве имен. Шаблон потерян, потому что по крайней мере один редактор регулярно исправляет включения переадресации, которые являются опечатками на основе этого отчета.и другим страницам это нравится. Для бота должно быть тривиальным делом исправлять включения шаблонов, помеченных тегом {{ R от неправильного написания }}, если их наличие является проблемой. RFD ближе: обратите внимание, что я привел несколько рекомендаций в своем голосовании! - Jonesey95 ( разговорное ) 03:31, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Фактическая политика гласит: А) создавать переадресацию для вероятных орфографических ошибок, и «один человек делал это раз в 21 год» не свидетельствует об этом; и B) слегка препятствует перенаправлению в пространстве шаблонов по сравнению с другими пространствами имен. Вы также, кажется, очень запутались в том, откуда берутся правила. - Cryptic 03:43, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Не могли бы вы дать ссылку на эту политику? Спасибо. - Jonesey95 ( разговор ) 03:55, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить . Создано в ответ на Википедию: Перенаправления на обсуждение / Журнал / 21 апреля 2021 # Шаблон: Симпатичные новости . Невероятная опечатка, которая не используется ни на одной странице. Не более полезны, чем ранее удаленные примеры, такие как Template: Ctie book (удалено в Википедии: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 10 декабря 2018 # Шаблон: Ctie book ). Такие орфографические ошибки следует исправлять в источнике, а не с помощью перенаправления, чтобы избежать путаницы (причина удаления №2) и избежать риска неоправданно усложнить задачу (причина удаления №1) для ботов, автоматизированных систем и поисковых систем для эффективной работы с шаблонными цитатами. DrKay ( разговор ) 05:48, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)

Патрис Синтеа [ править ]

  • Патрис Синтеа → Collide (группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Нет упоминания на целевой странице. Указан как автор или исполнитель на 3 разных альбомах (каждый с сомнительной известностью) только в кредитах. Еще одна ситуация с WP: XY . Звезда радуется пикам новости о проигранных войнах Поговори со мной 18:03, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
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Крис Канделария [ править ]

  • Крис Канделария → Collide (группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается на целевой странице. Два Криса Канделарии появляются в поиске в Википедии. Один как музыкант, который написал пару треков для группы Collide как автор или исполнитель, другой как австралийский футболист. Нет логической цели для WP: XY . Звезда радуется пикам новости о проигранных войнах Поговори со мной 17:56, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)

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4 мая [ править ]

Be urutan [ править ]

  • Be urutan → Saucisson ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Похоже, это название похожей колбасы в малайской кухне, но цель обсуждает только французскую кухню. Исключить, если не может быть представлено обоснование. подписано, разговор Росгилля 16:32, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Перенаправить на балийскую кухню . Урутан - это разновидность балийской колбасы. Часть «Быть» переводится как «мясо». То, что он похож на Сосиссон, не означает, что он такой же. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 19:23, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: Баннерная оболочка [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Баннерная оболочка Шаблон: Баннерная оболочка WikiProject ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Предложить ретаргетинг на Шаблон: Держатель баннера . Shell - это по большей части синоним держателя. Можно было бы ожидать, что это имя шаблона перейдет к держателю баннера общей страницы обсуждения, а не к WikiProject. Он имеет всего 300 включений и мало используется, поэтому его можно заменить без перебоев. Распространенные и ожидаемые перенаправления на шаблон страницы обсуждения могут побудить пользователей использовать шаблон держателя баннера, который в настоящее время сам относительно мало используется, и это поможет решить нашу проблему с загромождением страницы обсуждения. ProcrastinatingReader ( обсуждение ) 13:30, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Перенацеливание на шаблон: держатель баннера за ном. Это действительно лучшая цель. РГ: Здесь применяется СЮРПРИЗ . Я создатель редиректа.  -  Г-н Гай  ( разговор ) ( вклад ) 15:41, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Поддержка по номеру и автору. Матглот ( разговор ) 07:01, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: Cite jorunal [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Cite jorunal → Шаблон: Cite journal ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Создано в ответ на Википедию: Перенаправления на обсуждение / Журнал / 21 апреля 2021 # Шаблон: Симпатичные новости . Невероятная опечатка, которая не используется ни на одной странице. Не более полезны, чем ранее удаленные примеры, такие как Template: Ctie book (удалено в Википедии: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 10 декабря 2018 # Шаблон: Ctie book ). Такие орфографические ошибки следует исправлять в источнике, а не с помощью перенаправления, чтобы избежать путаницы (причина удаления №2) и избежать риска неоправданно усложнить задачу (причина удаления №1) для ботов, автоматизированных систем и поисковых систем для эффективной работы с шаблонными цитатами. DrKay ( разговор ) 12:06, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. В пространстве шаблона есть значительно более высокая полоса полезности переадресации опечаток, чем в пространстве статьи, и она не соответствует этой планке. Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 12:20, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Хранить в Википедии: Перенаправление # K5 . Когда я его создавал, было по крайней мере одно включение , которое нарушало рекомендации WP: REDNOT и загромождало отчеты, такие как Special: WantedTemplates . Существование такого включения показывает, что это правдоподобная опечатка. В документации на {{ R от неправильного написания }} говорится: Используйте этот шаблон rcat в любом пространстве имен. Для бота должно быть тривиальным исправление включения шаблонов, помеченных тегом {{ R от неправильного написания }}, что будет учитывать уважительные причины № 1 и № 2, указанные выше. RFD ближе: обратите внимание, что я привел несколько рекомендаций в моем голосовании. - Jonesey95 (обсуждение ) 13:30, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Keep: Это не причинит нам вреда. п б п 13:49, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалять , бессмысленно. Headbomb { t · c · p · b } 10:14, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Домашняя страница [ править ]

  • Домашняя страница → Главная страница ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
Предыдущие RfD для этого перенаправления:
  • Википедия: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 2012 20 октября § Домашняя страница - Нет консенсуса
  • Википедия: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 26 марта 2020 г. § Домашняя страница - Нет консенсуса

Эта страница дважды была указана в RfD. Однако я все еще считаю, что это перенаправление может быть не лучшей целью. Хотя это историческое название главной страницы, на некоторых вики его нет, например zh: HomePage . Однако fr: HomePage дает другую цель. Чтобы сохранить «См. Текущую версию этой страницы в Википедии» на wp.nost, вместо этого можно использовать специальный код для ссылки на главную страницу . Я не знаю, что делать с этим перенаправлением. 54nd60x ( разговорное ) 11:50, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Противоположно - главная страница Википедии кажется явно наиболее вероятным местом, куда кто-то, набирающий «Домашнюю страницу», будет искать. С наилучшими пожеланиями, Ли Виленски ( обсуждение • вклад ) 11:58, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Ретаргетинг . В обсуждении 2020 года я написал: «Хотя мы всегда должны быть осторожны, чтобы не разорвать ссылки, особенно старые ссылки, излишне нам нужно сбалансировать это с доступностью текущего использования. В этом конкретном случае на домашней странице есть сноска, ведущая к основному страницы, но одно в другом направлении было бы неуместно, поэтому баланс явно в пользу ретаргетинга. ". В обсуждении 2012 года я! Проголосовал за перенацеливание на редактора IP, который написал «просто и ясно {{ R с альтернативными заглавными буквами}}, и у нас уже есть шляпа на странице, указывающая на точку входа в Википедию. Очевидно, что у нас есть энциклопедическая тема для этого заголовка, а главная страница не является энциклопедическим контентом (вот почему некоторые другие языковые википедии переместили ее в пространство портала); Это не было главной страницей с 2001 года, единственный год, когда она была главной страницей ". За последние 8,5 лет или за последний год ничего не изменилось, чтобы изменить мое мнение - читатели все равно будут лучше обслуживаться, перейдя на главную страницу. со сноской на главной странице, чем на главной странице без ссылки на статью энциклопедии Тридулф ( разговор ) 12:29, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • @ Ли Виленски : Я не уверен в сохранении этого перенаправления. Например, Home - это имя главной страницы на foundation.wikimedia.org , и это не дает нам оснований использовать его в качестве имени нашей домашней страницы. Однако Main Page - это текущее имя нашей главной страницы, и почти на каждой вики он перенаправляет на главную страницу вики, или, иначе, это имя их главной страницы. Домашняя страница перенаправляет на главную страницу , а домашняя страница с заглавной буквой P перенаправляет на главную страницу.? Я знаю, что это по историческим причинам, но оба должны быть нацелены на одну и ту же страницу, и не имеет большого смысла иметь два почти идентичных заголовка, указывающих на разные страницы. 54nd60x ( разговор ) 13:03, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Выступайте против по мягким историческим причинам, а также из-за отсутствия нужды. Когда вы вводите «Домашняя страница» в строке поиска, версия с верблюжьей крышкой оказывается пятым (!) Результатом вниз и не выделяется жирным шрифтом. Действительно, домашняя страница с заглавными буквами набирает около 900 просмотров в день , тогда как домашняя страница с верблюжьим шрифтом получает менее 100 просмотров в день , предположительно тех, которые попадают в полосу памяти Википедии. -  Джон М. Вулфсон  ( обсуждение  •  вклад ) 13:08, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Для тех, кто не знает, «HomePage» - это название главной страницы вики- сайтов , использующих UseModWiki , в которую входила английская Википедия с января 2001 г. по январь 2002 г. Это в случае с верблюдами, потому что именно так все делалось в те дни . Причина, по которой в этом вопросе присутствует некоторая «эмоция», заключается в том, что страница содержит самую первую правку Википедии , которая использовалась еще тогда, когда она была главной страницей Википедии. Следовательно, текущая цель является наиболее исторически точной, равно как и относительная неясность концепции домашних страниц других веб-сайтов, что не оправдывает перенацеливание IMO. -  Джон М. Вулфсон  ( обсуждение  •  вклад ) 13:12, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Но почему тогда домашняя страница должна перенаправлять на домашнюю страницу ? 54nd60x ( разговор ) 13:27, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Потому что в нем отсутствует история версии Camelcase. -  Джон М. Вулфсон  ( обсуждение  •  вклад ) 13:50, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте аргументы keep в предыдущих RfD, комментарии Джона М. Вольфсона выше - и действительно отсутствие каких-либо проблем или острой необходимости перенацелить это. - Обсуждение xaosflux 13:32, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте Джона М. Вольфсона. Когда-то это * была * главная страница, поэтому кажется разумным, чтобы она все же перенаправлялась туда, учитывая, что ни один читатель не пострадает. -  Амакуру ( разговор ) 13:59, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • В предыдущем обсуждении я сказал:

    Retarget Время до такой степени заботиться о девятнадцатилетней (!) Истории давно прошло. Сейчас важно то, что является наиболее логичной целью для «Домашней страницы », и домашняя страница , которая уже имеет пометку « Главная страница» , кажется явно более логичной. * Pppery * началось ... 03:44, 20 марта 2020 (UTC)

    Ничего не изменилось с тех пор, за исключением того, что это история двадцатилетней давности, и я все еще считаю, что перенаправление следует перенаправить. * Pppery * началось ... 14:08, 4 мая 2021 года (UTC)
  • Я согласен с тем, что HomePage может быть не лучшим вариантом для перенаправления на главную страницу без сноски, но с учетом сказанного я хочу упомянуть пример: главная страница - не лучшее имя для нашей главной страницы, но оно все еще используется без сноски поскольку это застряло очень долго. Но насколько важно использование HomePage ? wp.fr и wp.zh не используют его так, как мы, но я верю, что эту историю следует сохранить. 54nd60x ( разговор ) 14:27, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Ну, во-первых, фраза «HomePage» явно написана на английском языке, поэтому то, что французские и китайские проекты не используют ее, меня не беспокоит. - Обсуждение xaosflux 18:18, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Хранить. Послушайте, я знаю, что мы предпочитаем делать вид, что нам наплевать на древнюю историю проекта, но кого мы обманываем? Эта страница была главной в 2001 году, и сохранение ее в качестве указателя на эту страницу сохраняет эту историю. Если вам нужно очень серьезное оправдание, которое делает вид, что мы бесчувственные роботы, все еще может быть где-то ссылка, предполагающая, что HomePage указывает на главную страницу. Тамвин ( разговор ) 18:25, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Мы действительно заботимся о старой истории, но мы не можем позволить ей встать на пути нужд сегодняшнего дня. В этом случае мы можем сохранить ссылку на историю с пометкой на главной странице, которая уже существует. Таким же образом мы управляем каждым другим перенаправлением, которое мы перенаправляем, когда есть (или даже может быть) возможность входящих внешних ссылок. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 09:20, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Нацелить « домашнюю страницу » на домашнюю страницу , что , когда такой WP: верблюжий редирект должен указывать. Тема домашней страницы - это домашняя страница , и она уже содержит сноску к главной странице Википедии. Если это не перенастроить, на главной странице должна быть добавлена ​​сноска к энциклопедической теме «домашней страницы» - 67.70.27.105 ( обсуждение ) 01:45, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Спи со мной, я не слишком молод [ править ]

  • Спи со мной, я еще не молод → ... Baby One More Time (песня) ( разговор · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Курить марихуану весело → Другой укусит пыль ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Бесполезные, сиротские, ребячливые перенаправления, созданные редактором, который был заблокирован с тех пор. Удалить. Lagrange 613 05:20, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Быстрое удаление : G6, бесспорное ведение домашнего хозяйства. Явно всего лишь вандализм Джозеф 2302 ( разговор) 17:34, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)
    Если это «просто вандализм», то почему не G3? ~~~~
    Пользователь: 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( обсуждение )
    18:29, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Давайте, ребята, хотя бы проверьте, действительно ли это вандализм. Это не так. Это даже обсуждалось в Википедии ( здесь и здесь ). Возможно, лучше всего удалить, но определенно не быстро. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:40, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)
    • Тот факт, что IP-адрес обсуждал это в 2005 году, не делает его разумным или вообще подходящим для перенаправления. Джозеф 2302 ( разговор) 08:11, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
      • @ Joseph2302 : Нет, но IP не утверждал, что они были. Они сказали только, что это указывает на то, что перенаправления не были вандализмом, что подтверждают их доказательства. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 16:00, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
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  • Удалить . Бесполезен и никогда не будет оценивать ни упоминание на самих страницах, ни даже отдельную отдельную страницу. -  Амакуру ( разговор ) 14:01, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Сохраните второе : упомянуто в « Другой укусит пыль» # Предполагаемая обратная маскировка . Первое сложнее ... может быть, переориентироваться на Backmasking ? - B RAINULATOR 9 ( РАЗГОВОР ) 16:15, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Оставьте вторую, как упомянуто. Первый даже не примечателен как лирика. «Мое одиночество убивает меня» было бы более примечательно. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 19:07, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Оставьте второй, потому что он упоминается в его цели; удалите 1-й, потому что это не так. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:28, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)

Википедия: NOTGOOGLE + [ редактировать ]

  • Википедия: NOTGOOGLE + → Википедия: чем Википедия не является # Википедия - это не блог, веб-хостинг, социальная сеть или мемориальный сайт ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Google+ был закрыт в 2019 году. 128.127.214.213 ( обсуждение ) 07:21, 4 мая 2021 года (UTC)

  • Держи . Ну и что? Если нет предложения повторно использовать ярлык для какой-либо другой цели, удаление абсолютно ничего не даст. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:33, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Держи . Википедия - это не Google Plus, поэтому перенаправление все еще сохраняется, даже если прежний сайт уже закрыт. -  Амакуру ( разговор ) 14:02, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Держите, у нас все еще есть WP: NOTMYSPACE . -  Джон М. Вулфсон  ( обсуждение  •  вклад ) 14:36, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Шаблон: Милая книга [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Симпатичная книга → Шаблон: Цитировать книгу ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Создано по материалам Википедии: Перенаправления на обсуждение / Журнал / 21 апреля 2021 г. # Шаблон: Симпатичные новости . Не более полезен, чем Template: Cte bok , Template: Ctie book и т. Д. Такие орфографические ошибки следует исправлять в источнике, а не с помощью перенаправления, чтобы избежать путаницы (причина удаления # 2) и избежать риска неоправданно усложнения (причина удаления # 1) для ботов, автоматизированных систем и поисковых систем для эффективной работы с шаблонными цитатами. DrKay ( разговор ) 07:00, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Менее полезен, чем {{ ctie book }}, поскольку это, по крайней мере, правдоподобная опечатка. ({{ cte bok }} - это многовато, но {{ cte book }} или {{ cite bok }} по отдельности тоже были бы правдоподобными.) Это не так: в отличие от них, это не та опечатка, как охота - and-pecker может сделать, и машинистка вслепую не пропустит i-> u, не выполнив также o-> i и k-> j для {{ cute biij }}. Кроме того, в большинстве случаев использование {{ R от опечатки }} (на которое {{ R от опечатки }} перенаправляет) в пространстве имен шаблона связано с подлинными орфографическими ошибками, а не с опечатками, гораздо чаще, чем в основном пространстве; и единственная другая опечатка из-за неправильного размещения пальцев, в которой я вижу, это {{ cote web}}, которому меньше недели. Полный список на карьере: запрос / 54722 . Удалить. - Cryptic 11:00, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалите per nom, Cryptic и мои комментарии на #Template: Cite jorunal . Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:34, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Хранить в Википедии: Перенаправление # K5 . Когда я его создавал, было по крайней мере одно включение , которое нарушало рекомендации WP: REDNOT и загромождало отчеты, такие как Special: WantedTemplates . Существование такого включения показывает, что это правдоподобная опечатка (буква «u» на клавиатуре находится на расстоянии одной буквы от «i»). В документации на {{ R от неправильного написания }} говорится: Используйте этот шаблон rcat в любом пространстве имен. Для бота должно быть тривиально исправление включения шаблонов, помеченных {{ R, из-за неправильного написания}}, что будет учитывать уважительные причины номинатора №1 и №2 выше. RFD ближе: обратите внимание, что я привел несколько рекомендаций в своем голосовании! - Jonesey95 ( разговорное ) 13:32, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить по ном. Конечно, люди могут сделать множество опечаток, но нам не нужно делать редирект, чтобы охватить каждую из них. Это касается как шаблонов проектов, так и заголовков статей. Это также имя, которое на самом деле означает что-то само по себе, не имеющее ничего общего с шаблоном, на который оно перенаправляется, поэтому есть дополнительная причина, чтобы оно не отвлекало людей. -  Амакуру ( разговор ) 14:06, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Обратите внимание, что я делаю перенаправления только для обработки опечаток, которые на самом деле делают люди , по ссылке, которую я предоставил выше. - Jonesey95 ( разговорное ) 15:39, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Дэмиен Готтлиб [ править ]

  • Дэмиен Готтлиб → Готтлиб ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Сначала я перенаправил это в статью, где упоминалось имя. Большая часть этой статьи оказывается совершенно неподтвержденной и отчасти простой мистификацией, созданной теми же редакторами, у которых есть много проблем с редиректами и которые были назначены на удаление. T * U ( разговор ) 06:33, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Энвики ничего не знает о Дэмиене Готлибе, и их связь с целью не упоминается. При этом RfD - не место для разрешения редакционных споров о Готлибе . Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:11, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить по ном. Не могу найти достойного человека с таким именем. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 19:01, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Дэмиен Синертек [ править ]

  • Damien Synertek → Synertek ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Сначала я перенаправил это в статью, где упоминается имя. Части этой статьи оказываются подделкой, созданной теми же редакторами, которые создавали ее, а также имеет множество перенаправлений, которые оспариваются и предлагаются для удаления. T * U ( разговор ) 05:57, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Enwiki ничего не знает о Дэмиене Синертеке, и их связь с целью неясна и не упоминается. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:13, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить по номеру и обману. Создатель также публиковал эти случайные имена и ассоциации на YouTube. [1], чтобы попытаться продвинуть свой канал на YouTube и другие вещи. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 19:03, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Awesometown [ править ]

  • Awesometown → Одинокий остров ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Awesometown - это общее прозвище Валенсии, Санта-Клариты, Калифорния и прилегающей некорпоративной области Валенсии, Калифорния . Он также иногда используется для обозначения Санта-Клариты в целом. Поищите в Google или любой другой поисковой системе "awesometown valencia" или "awesometown santa Clarita" доказательство. Должен быть изменен на страницу значений. Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 05:10, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Держи . Прямо сейчас Awesometown как псевдоним Валенсии не упоминается ни в одной статье, поэтому страницу с значениями неоднозначности нельзя использовать. Если бы это было упомянуто, то устранения неоднозначности можно было бы добиться с помощью шляпной сноски. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:24, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте Шхноцолоуд. Единственные упоминания «Awesometown», которые я могу найти в Википедии, в настоящее время относятся к текущей цели. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:40, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Существует множество источников, в которых упоминается "Awesometown" как прозвище Валенсии и / или Санта-Клариты. Это Los Angeles Times , Curbed , сигнал долины Санта-Кларита , NBC Los Angeles и сам город Санта-Кларита . Название "Awesometown" использовалось компанией Newhall Land and Farming (которая развивала Валенсию) для рекламы Валенсии.
    Обновление: я добавил ник "Awesometown" в статью Валенсия, Санта-Кларита с источником. Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 18:25, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Кроссовер баскетбол [ править ]

  • Кроссовер баскетбол → Кроссовер дриблинг ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Неверное перенаправление. Существительное «кроссовер» (имеющее отношение к баскетбольному ведению) всегда пишется одним словом. По совпадению, в моем имени пользователя есть слово «кроссовер». Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 03:59, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep , иногда пишется двумя словами. Читатели его используют , так зачем удалять? -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 4:09, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Комментарий Обычно (согласно типичному соглашению Википедии) это будет Перекрещивание (баскетбол) в круглых скобках. Я уже создал кроссовер (баскетбол) . «Перекрестие» обычно пишется как таковое, только когда используется как глагол. Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 04:36, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
      • Читатели (и перенаправления) не всегда следуют «соглашению Википедии», как показывают просмотры страниц . Что плохого в наличии этого редиректа, когда он явно помогает читателям? -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 4:42, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
        • 152 просмотра за почти 6 лет. Для меня это звучит незначительно. Это не учитывает тех, кто вводит в строку поиска «кроссовер (баскетбол)» и видит «кроссовер (баскетбол)». Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 04:49, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
          • Менее 5 лет. Я не вижу крест над результатами всплывал , если я типа кроссовер . Очень много читателей помогли. И удаление этого редиректа беспричинно причиняет вред многим читателям. Какую пользу принесет энциклопедия удаление этого перенаправления? -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 4:54, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
            • Это произошло потому, что я создал редирект Crossover (баскетбол) 16 апреля 2021 года. И «менее 5 лет» - это еще очень большой срок. Страница за это время получила 152 просмотра. Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 05:00, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
              • Ответьте на вопрос: Чем полезно для энциклопедии удаление этого редиректа? -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 5:10, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
                • Нужен ли редирект или даже полезен ли он сейчас, когда у нас есть кроссовер (баскетбол) ? Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 05:11, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
                  • Это не нужно, но ничего не нужно . Это по-прежнему полезно для всех, кто ищет его, особенно через строку URL. Но вы не ответили на мой вопрос. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 5:36, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
                    • Редирект - довольно неправдоподобный поисковый запрос. Как я упоминал ранее, «кроссовер» (баскетбольное ведение) почти всегда произносится как одно слово, когда используется как существительное. Я инициировал обсуждение, чтобы узнать мнение других сторонников Википедии об этом перенаправлении - не обязательно потому, что я против этого. Crossover1370 ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 06:11, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
                      • Читатели не обязательно знают об этом. Я до сих пор не вижу причин, по которым удаление этого перенаправления принесет пользу Википедии. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 6:22, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте J947. Однозначно полезно для читателей и явно безвредно. Нет никаких доказательств того, что удаление принесет какую-либо пользу, но почти наверняка удаление затруднит читателям поиск контента, который они ищут. Следовательно, единственный оправданный образ действий - это сохранение. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:43, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Комментарий Обратите внимание, что кроссовер в баскетболе изначально перенаправлялся на баскетбольные движения до того, как я изменил цель на более конкретное кроссоверное ведение 28 апреля 2021 года. Crossover1370 ( обсуждение | вклад ) 20:06, 4 мая 2021 года (UTC)

Шаблон: Substr quick [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Substr quick → Шаблон: Str sub old ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Устаревшее перенаправление шаблона - мы больше не делаем длинные / быстрые / медленные варианты каждого шаблона. Пользователь: GKFX talk 11:36, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, ✗ plicit 00:09, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Keep , содержит историю, которую я склонен хранить. В конце концов, безвреден. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 4:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Комментарий, вероятно, следует перенести в Шаблоны Wikia - 67.70.27.105 ( обсуждение ) 01:47, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Шаблон: Str sub old / any [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Str sub old / any → Шаблон: Str sub old ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Перенаправление неиспользуемого шаблона Пользователь: GKFX talk 11:32, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, ✗ plicit 00:08, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Keep , содержит историю, которую я склонен хранить. В конце концов, безвреден. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 4:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Комментарий, вероятно, следует перенести в Шаблоны Wikia - 67.70.27.105 ( обсуждение ) 01:47, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

3 мая [ править ]

Шелли Лютер [ править ]

  • Шелли Лютер → Пандемия COVID-19 в Техасе ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
Предыдущие RfD для этого перенаправления:
  • Википедия: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 2020 10 июня § Шелли Лютер - ретаргетинг

Это перенаправление следует либо удалить, либо написать как отдельную статью. В настоящее время это равносильно малолетнему издевательству. Jesdisciple ( разговор ) 20:39, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Перенаправить на 2020_Texas_State_Senate_election # Special_elections, где упоминалось. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:38, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Севмачи (этническая группа Северной Македонии) [ править ]

  • Севмачи (этническая группа Северной Македонии) → Македонцы (этническая группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Севмаки (этническая группа Северной Македонии) → Македонцы (этническая группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Нормаки (этническая группа Северной Македонии) → македонцы (этническая группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Нормаки (этническая группа Северной Македонии) → македонцы (этническая группа) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            

Недавно созданные перенаправления с неподтвержденных и потенциально оскорбительных неологизмов. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:27, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

BarackRoll [ править ]

  • BarackRoll → Rickrolling ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Барак Ролл → Rickrolling # Примеры ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это было создано как статья, которая была перенаправлена ​​в соответствии с AfD, но в настоящее время не объясняется в целевой аудитории. Этот термин упоминается во многих статьях, но Хью Аткин кажется лучшим вариантом.~~~~
Пользователь: 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( обсуждение )
18:16, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Перенаправление на Хью Аткина (или Хью Аткина # Карьера ) по номеру. IceWelder [ ✉ ] 8:39, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: соперничество метс-янки [ править ]

  • Шаблон: соперничество Метс-Янки → Шаблон: соперничество MLB ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Перенаправление было создано после того, как шаблон был перемещен в Шаблон: соперничество Мец – Янки , затем шаблон был удален и перенаправление перенаправлено. Поскольку соперничества между Template: Mets и Yankees не существует, это перенаправление тоже не должно быть. Никаких ссылок и включений. Бшерр ( разговорное ) 16:00, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Бойтесь охотников [ править ]

  • Fear the Hunters → Список эпизодов The Walking Dead ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в статье и не знает, к какому альтернативному названию относится. Гонным ( разговорное ) 15:51, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Удалить : этот пользователь хорошо известен (см. Их страницу обсуждения) тем, что преждевременно создает перенаправления для эпизодов Ходячих мертвецов на основе слухов / непроверенных отчетов о названиях для предстоящих эпизодов. Drovethrughosts ( обсуждение ) 15:59, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенаправить на The Walking Dead (комикс) . Это название 11-го тома, как указано в нем. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 15:57, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Профессиональный агролог [ править ]

  • Professional agrologist → Agriculturist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A new redir has been placed at Professional agrologist, pointing to Agriculturist, while also leaving the original content in the former. Now, I'm no expert, but to me those don't look like they're the same thing, and as such I don't think the redir is justified (I would have said hatnotes or 'see also' could have been added instead). But rather than just remove the redir, I'm after second opinions here. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановить статью без ущерба для AfD по WP: BLAR . Тридуульф ( разговор ) 00:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Восстановите статью, как указано выше. Жирное перенаправление было недавним. Затем следует обсудить, следует ли разделить агролога и агронома или объединить их. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 16:01, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Дикий, дикий Запад 2 [ править ]

  • Wild Wild West 2 → Wild Wild West ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не было Дикого Дикого Запада 2 . Поскольку фильм был критическим и финансовым провалом, возможно, этого никогда не будет. Это просто чистый материал WP: CRYSTAL . Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 09:00, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Дать согласие. - Бшерр ( разговор ) 17:48, 3 мая 2021 года (UTC)
  • Удалить по номеру - Lenticel ( обсуждение ) 00:32, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалите статью, даже не упомянув о потенциальном продолжении, и его можно легко воссоздать, если по какой-то причине позже они решат его сделать, - 65.92.163.98 ( разговор ) 03:20, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Википедия: МАНДАРИНЫ [ править ]

  • Википедия: МАНДАРИНЫ → Википедия: Нет серьезных участников ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
Предыдущие RfD для этого перенаправления:
  • Википедия: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 24 января 2010 г. § Википедия: МАНДАРИНЫ - keep

Насколько я могу судить, в целевой статье нет упоминания о «мандаринах». Kokopelli7309 ( разговорное ) 22:47, 17 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Слабое крепление по предыдущей номинации . 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠 ) 22:57, 17 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, ✗ plicit 00:05, 25 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить по номеру; перенаправление кажется не очень естественным. Тамвин ( разговор ) 19:12, 25 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, CycloneYoris talk! 08:56, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Слабое удаление по ном. - dylx ( t | c ) 12:48, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Держите , старые ярлыки лучше не удалять. Он был использован . Обратите внимание на это короткое обсуждение этого перенаправления. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 20:54, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: Str rt [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Str rt → Шаблон: Str right ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Неиспользуемое непонятное перенаправление шаблона. Пользователь: GKFX talk 09:22, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • сохраните варианты написания, так как «str» - это явно сокращение от «string», rt - явно сокращение от «right»; и обычно используемое сокращение для right. (действительно, некоторые языки программирования используют RT вместо RIGHT) - 67.70.27.246 ( обсуждение ) 14:51, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Как упоминалось выше, эта Str_часть в порядке и соответствует соглашению, против rtчего я возражаю. Я бы не ожидал, что люди будут искать, rtесли они имеют в виду «правильно», и было бы не так ясно, если бы это было частью разметки шаблона. Пользователь: GKFX talk 18:29, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
      • RT - это обычное сокращение от right, поэтому я думаю, что некоторые люди будут искать таким образом, и, вероятно, это перенаправление WP: CHEAP, как оно есть. RT - это общепринятое сокращение для right [2], которое встречается в некоторых языках программирования [3]  ; поэтому я думаю, что это реальный запрос для перенаправления и поиска - 67.70.27.246 ( обсуждение ) 20:11, 26 апреля 2021 года (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
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  • Удалить . Аналогичного перенаправления для Template: Str left нет , поэтому я думаю, что это больше сбивает с толку, чем поясняет. - Бшерр ( разговор ) 17:51, 3 мая 2021 года (UTC)

Шаблон: Str rep all [ править ]

  • Шаблон: Str rep all → Шаблон: Заменить ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Неиспользуемое перенаправление шаблона. Пользователь: GKFX talk 07:16, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Держите его так, как написано, это дополнение к {{ Str rep }}, которое позволяет заменять все экземпляры. Поэтому это полезно в отношении наименования другой функции, "Str rep", по крайней мере, для поиска - 67.70.27.246 ( обсуждение ) 15:01, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить . Это было до модулей Lua, теперь оно не нужно ( {{Replace}} выполняет свою работу и хорошо документировано, а также количество замен). Дополнительные имена напрасно сбивают с толку. - (создатель) Депип ( обсуждение ) 14:29, 29 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
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  • Держи . Я согласен с тем, что отношение к Template: Str rep является аргументом в пользу сохранения перенаправления. - Бшерр ( разговорное ) 20:54, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Звонок [ править ]

  • Звонок → Мочеиспускание ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

В статье « Мочеиспускание» не говорится, что звон - это эвфемизм для обозначения мочеиспускания (на самом деле он описывает звон как звук). Я не думаю, что это перенаправление полезно, и лучшей целью может быть мягкое перенаправление на wikt. Шхноцолуд ( разговор ) 08:50, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Мягкое перенацеливание на викисловарь: звон - Лентичел ( разговор ) 00:36, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Дэмиен Монтейт [ править ]

  • Дэмиен Монтейт → Дэмиен # М ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Первоначально связано со списком, где имя связано с другим списком, который связан с первым списком ... T * U ( обсуждение ) 07:50, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить . Действительно, не работает. - Бшерр ( разговор ) 17:56, 3 мая 2021 года (UTC)
  • Удалите ни одного известного человека с таким именем. Поисковые запросы указывают на случайный инженер человека или Glee Cast членов Дэмиан МакГинти и Кори Монтейт AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:22, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • удалить как указано выше - Lenticel ( обсуждение ) 03:47, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Магазины стоимости Casio [ править ]

  • Casio Value Stores → Consolidated Mail Outpatient Pharmacy ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Связь с целевой статьей не установлена. Дополнения к целевой статье были совершенно без источников и не заслуживающими доверия. T * U ( разговор ) 07:29, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. Нет истории болезни, чтобы указать, как это связано с аптекой, и, вероятно, его можно спутать с аптекой CVS . AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:22, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Кори Мерфи (продюсер) [ править ]

  • Кори Мерфи (продюсер) → Фильм ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье, и нет никаких указаний на то, что что-либо о термине можно узнать из целевой статьи. Первоначально создано, чтобы избежать красной ссылки в статье списка, вместо того, чтобы отправлять пользователя в погоню за диким гусям. T * U ( разговор ) 07:18, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Согласен, это должна быть красная ссылка. - Бшерр ( разговорное ) 20:54, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Speedy G3 спрашивает оригинального редактора о том, реально ли это. См. Запись фэндома https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/Cory_Murphy_(film_producer) и обратите внимание на то, что дни рождения не в порядке. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:30, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалите, чтобы поощрить статью, если уместно. Шхноцолуд ( разговор ) 07:29, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Джеймс Грёнинг (продюсер) [ править ]

  • Джеймс Грёнинг (продюсер) → Фильм ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье, и нет никаких указаний на то, что что-либо о термине можно узнать из целевой статьи. Первоначально создано, чтобы избежать красной ссылки в статье списка, вместо того, чтобы отправлять пользователя в погоню за диким гусям. T * U ( разговор ) 07:17, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Согласен, это должна быть красная ссылка. - Бшерр ( разговорное ) 20:54, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Быстрый G2 или G3 спрашивают оригинального редактора создания о том, действительно ли это вообще. См. Запись в фэндоме https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/James_Groening_(film_producer) "в 1917 году, он родился в Соединенных Штатах Америки. В 1967 году он вырос и стал руководящим музыкальным продюсером своей фильмографии для сами себя." Очевидный тестовый наполнитель. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:30, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалите, чтобы поощрить статью, если уместно. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Джеймс Грёнинг [ править ]

  • Джеймс Грёнинг → Джеймс # Люди ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье, и нет никаких указаний на то, что что-либо о термине можно узнать из целевой статьи. T * U ( разговор ) 07:15, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Согласен, это должна быть красная ссылка. - Бшерр ( разговорное ) 20:54, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Speedy G3 спрашивает оригинального редактора о том, реально ли это. См фэндома запись https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/James_Groening_(film_producer) AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • нюхать ) 23:30, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить . Перенаправление на страницу значений неоднозначности явно неуместно. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Data West [ править ]

  • Data West → Bandai Namco Entertainment ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье, и нет никаких указаний на то, что что-либо о термине можно узнать из целевой статьи. T * U ( разговор ) 07:13, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить как не дочернюю компанию Bandai Namco. См https://www.siliconera.com/data-west-to-return-to-video-game-industry-with-digital-rereleases-and-sequels/ AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:43, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

ДАННЫЕ ЗАПАД [ править ]

  • DATA WEST → Bandai Namco Entertainment ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. T*U (talk) 07:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as not a subsidiary of Bandai Namco. See https://www.siliconera.com/data-west-to-return-to-video-game-industry-with-digital-rereleases-and-sequels/ AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

PG-13[edit]

  • PG-13 → Motion picture content rating system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Целью была система рейтинга фильмов Ассоциации киноискусства, действующая только в США. Новая цель действительно охватывает многие страны, но это своего рода список статей. Глядя на PG-13 (значения) , я думаю, что это лучшая «цель», поэтому я предлагаю переместить мазок на базовое имя. Обратите внимание, что PG13 уже перенаправляет на dab. Имеет смысл, что PG13 / PG-13 идут в одно и то же место. МБ 04:09, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Комментарий У меня нет принципиальных возражений против этого, но я временно отменил изменение, потому что сначала нужно обработать входящие ссылки. Как показывает https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/PG-13 , существует значительное количество входящих ссылок, которые явно относятся к единственному рейтингу фильмов MPAA. Facts707 поленился изменить редирект и не обрабатывать входящие ссылки. Читатели, которые перейдут по этой ссылке, ожидают публикации в рейтинге фильмов США, так как переходят по ссылкам из статей об американских фильмах. Я предлагаю решение по следующим направлениям:
  1. Переместите PG-13 на PG-13 (Motion Picture Association) . Это будет отражать решение на https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R_rating_(Motion_Picture_Association)&redirect=no .
  2. Это создаст двойное перенаправление, которое программа Википедии автоматически исправит через несколько дней.
  3. Как только программное обеспечение исправит двойное перенаправление, переместите PG-13 (значение) на PG-13 .
Бетти Логан ( разговор ) 08:37, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Комментарий Я восстановил перенаправление в прежнем виде, цели не должны изменяться, пока есть открытый RFD. Я также обнаружил, что было задействовано всего 100 статей, и прогнал их через AWB, чтобы перенаправить таргетинг на те, которые явно касались фильмов с рейтингом в США. Теперь осталось всего около дюжины, которые нужно сдать. Нет необходимости в рассмотренном выше круговом движении. МБ 15:15, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    Восстановил давнюю редирект. Это перенаправление перенаправлялось в систему рейтинга фильмов Motion Picture Association с момента ее создания 17 лет назад, до того, как она была изменена ранее. Я восстановил это перенаправление, потому что оно влияет на все входящие ссылки. Обсуждение должно происходить до изменения редиректа, а не после него. Бетти Логан ( разговорное ) 15:19, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Вы запутали ситуацию. Цель, указанная в самом верху этого обсуждения, неверна, потому что вы изменили цель ПОСЛЕ начала обсуждения. Это неправильная процедура. МБ 15:39, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    The procedure is to start the discussion before changing the link, not after. The change you are proposing is a no-brainer on your terms, because none of the incoming links should redirect to the new link. If there is to be a discussion it should be about the long-standing link, which is potentially a primary topic. I actually support your proposal but the discussion should be about the original link. Only two editors have responded so far so you can easily fix the proposal, or alternatively you can close it and start a new one. Betty Logan (talk) 16:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • NOTE I believe this discussion is being conducted in poor faith. This is the sequence of events:
    1. Это перенаправление было создано в 2003 году и до сегодняшнего дня всегда перенаправлялось на Motion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system # PG-13 , потому что рейтинг MPA PG-13 долгое время считался основной темой. У него было значительное количество входящих ссылок, которые явно ссылались на рейтинг MPA PG-13.
    2. Ранее сегодня эта страница была перенаправлена ​​в систему оценки содержания кинофильмов без обсуждения и без учета всех входящих ссылок.
    3. Обсуждение было начато здесь МБ, предлагающим переместить страницу значений в PG-13 (значения) на базовое имя.
    4. I restored the redirect to the WP:STATUSQUO but this has been reverted by MB (see [4]) on the pretext of this discussion.
    Однако я считаю, что это обсуждение должно происходить в контексте давнего (17-летнего) редиректа. Обсуждение перенаправления в систему рейтинга содержания кинофильмов принципиально отличается от обсуждения перенаправления на потенциальную основную тему на Motion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system # PG-13 . Этот предлог, что мы должны вести обсуждение на ложной предпосылке, потому что оно уже «началось», является очень плохой причиной, ИМО. Поскольку в этом обсуждении участвовали всего два человека, предложение можно легко исправить. Это перенаправление существует уже 17 лет, потенциально перенаправляет на основную тему и должно обсуждаться на этих условиях, ИМО. Бетти Логан ( разговорное ) 15:54, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Дальнейший комментарий Вкратце, я считаю, что реальная проблема заключается в том, является ли рейтинг MPA PG-13, представленный в Motion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system # PG-13, основной темой из тех, что изложены в PG-13 (значения). В течение 17 лет до сегодняшнего утра, когда был изменен редирект, рейтинг считался основной темой. Однако 17 лет - это большой срок, и в Википедию добавлено больше статей, посвященных различным рейтингам PG-13. Принимая во внимание эти дополнительные темы, правильно ли рассматривать рейтинг MPA как основную тему, или, как предлагает МБ, заменить перенаправление на страницу разрешения неоднозначности. Несмотря на мое несогласие с МБ по поводу проведения обсуждения, я согласен с предложением; Я думаю, что статья о рейтингах MPA по-прежнему будет получать основную часть входящего трафика, поскольку в Википедии основное внимание уделяется англоязычным фильмам (особенно голливудским), но я думаю, что если бы было сбалансированное освещение, то, вероятно, не было бы основной темы. Бетти Логан ( разговор) 16:18, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Джо Аллен (ресторатор) [ править ]

  • Джо Аллен (ресторатор) → Джо Аллен (ресторатор) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

За R3 ; заголовок страницы создан по ошибке. Я переместил перенаправление на «правильный» заголовок до того, как назначить это перенаправление. Шон Стивенс ( разговорное ) 03:35, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Держите , безвредно . R3 не применяется, потому что это перенаправление было создано перемещением страницы. Кроме того, пожалуйста, не перемещайте перенаправления . -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 5:00, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Я не вижу никаких доказательств того, что это перенаправление было фактически создано перемещением страницы. GiantSnowman создал это в феврале, как это показано в исходной истории страниц , до того, как Nom сделал ход. CycloneYoris говорить! 09:18, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
      • Это абсолютно, на 100%, было создано перемещением страницы. Это немного сбивает с толку . Подумайте о перемещении названия статьи. Редирект остается на старом заголовке. Это тот же сценарий, но более запутанный. Быстрое удаление было неуместным. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:42, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Actually, scratch that. Restaurateur is the normal spelling of the word. Restauranteur, is oddly enough, the misspelling (or odd alternative term). I didn't know that. Jimfbleak (or any admin who comes across this), please undelete as this redirect is the correct title. Ah, shit.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Я понятия не имел, что средство устранения неоднозначности в оригинальном названии написано правильно (иначе я бы никогда не назначил его). Кто-нибудь, пожалуйста, устраните ущерб, который я причинил. Кстати, «ресторатор» - это правильное написание, откуда я родом, так что, возможно, это всего лишь английский вариант. Меня не волнует, сохраним ли мы новое перенаправление или удалим его, если это отвечает интересам Википедии. Шон Стивенс ( разговор ) 01:02, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
      • Да, определенно не твоя вина. Я бы тоже так написал, так что, может быть, это австралийская вещь. Новый редирект следует сохранить, по крайней мере, как общий альтернативный термин, независимо от того, неправильно он употреблен или нет. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:35, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
        • Спасибо за добросовестность, я здесь уже не к этому привык. Я согласен с вашим предложением, звучит как хорошая идея. Шон Стивенс ( разговорное ) 01:45, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Я возобновил это обсуждение, так как перенаправление было восстановлено. Лично у меня нет мнения о том, следует ли нам сохранять это перенаправление или нет, но я думаю, было бы полезно узнать, готовы ли другие редакторы предоставить какие-либо дополнительные сведения. CycloneYoris говорить! 09:14, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Держи . Викисловарь перечисляет « ресторатор » и « ресторатор » как альтернативные варианты написания одного и того же слова с примечанием, в котором говорится, что написание с буквой «н» некоторыми считается ошибочным, а форма «ресторатор» (без буквы «н») предпочтительна в официальное письмо, особенно в Соединенном Королевстве ». поэтому независимо от того, в каком заголовке находится статья, другая должна перенаправляться туда, помеченная как {{ R from other disambiguation }}, точно так же, как Aqua (цвет) перенаправляет на Aqua (цвет) . Тридуульф ( разговор ) 11:44, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенаправьте оба имени Джо Аллену (ресторан) теперь, когда оба являются допустимыми альтернативными вариантами написания. RM / TR, чтобы исправить это до ресторатора, был отклонен. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 16:37, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

M178 ' [ править ]

  • M178 ' → Mercedes-AMG # "63" M177 / M178 4,0 л V8 Bi-Turbo ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить. Не уверен, для чего нужен апостроф на конце, но двигатель Mercedes - это просто M178, и в любом случае он покрыт двигателем Mercedes-Benz M176 / M177 / M178 . M178 уже существует. Это просто сбивает с толку. МБ 01:32, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. Очевидная опечатка, без апострофа. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 23:33, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

2 мая [ править ]

Тириум [ править ]

  • Tyrium → неодима ( разговор · Ссылки · История · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается нигде в Википедии. - Прачечная Пицца 03 ( d c̄ ) 17:45, 21 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Комментарий Tyrium был первым в списке в химической символ по Spangineer в 2005 году здесь , как предложил название для неодима. Запись была удалена из списка в 2016 году по IP здесь . Если это можно подтвердить как ранее предложенное имя элемента, то его следует сохранить как перенаправление. Полиаморф ( разговор ) 18:46, 21 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Слабый Продолжайте следить за дальнейшими исследованиями. Похоже, это альтернативное название неодима, предложенное Джоном и Гордоном Марксами в постскриптуме к статье, в которой они предложили альтернативное представление периодической таблицы. Единственная копия оригинальной статьи 1994 года, которую я могу найти, находится здесь , я не уверен, в каком журнале она была опубликована. Более поздняя статья братьев, опубликованная в Found Chem в 2010 году , не упоминает альтернативную номенклатуру. Тем не менее, кажется допустимым перенаправление. Также смотрите здесь и здесь . Полиаморф ( разговор ) 19:21, 21 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить . Номенклатура братьев Маркс, кажется, не используется серьезно кем-либо еще в научных кругах (даже ими в своей статье 2010 года, за исключением нитона для радона). Двойной диез ( разговор ) 09:27, 22 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Ты прав. А если это не упомянуто в Neodymium, то это немного бессмысленно. Но это настоящая вещь, поэтому я предположил, что в ее хранении нет ничего плохого. Но я немного болтаю по этому поводу, поэтому изменил свой голос на "weak keep". Полиаморф ( разговор ) 12:04, 22 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо,Mdewman6(разговор) 23:25, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, так как Tyrium действительно был предложен в качестве названия для неодима в соответствии с различными ссылками, предоставленными Polyamorph. Джей ( разговор ) 16:02, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Аспираре [ править ]

  • Aspirare → Spirit ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Итальянский означает «Дух», со связанными значениями в некоторых других романских языках, согласно Wiktionary. [5] Дух (оживляющая сила) не упоминается в предыдущей статье, посвященной основной теме . Я не вижу другой подходящей цели, поэтому рекомендую удалить. ( t · c ) buidhe 22:56, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить на WP: RFOREIGN . Единственное упоминание, которое я могу найти, - это незаметная запись в Списке специальных школ Тринидада и Тобаго . Certes ( разговор ) 23:13, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

Астральные духи [ править ]

  • Astral Spirits → Spirit ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это название звукозаписывающей компании [6] (возможно, примечательной?), У которой нет вики-статьи и которая не упоминается на dab-странице. Это должна быть красная ссылка. ( t · c ) buidhe 22:45, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Комментарий - Astral spirit существует, но у звукозаписывающей компании много упоминаний, и, возможно, нам следует удалить, чтобы поиск работал, пока кто-то не создаст недостающую статью. Certes ( разговор ) 23:17, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

Руа [ править ]

  • Rooah → Spirit ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье (статья теперь в духе (оживляющая сила) раньше была базовым именем, и, насколько я могу судить, там не упоминается и не объясняется нигде в Википедии) ( t · c ) buidhe 22:37, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить Старая версия утверждает, что rooah является вариантом написания ruach , и в этом случае применяется WP: RFOREIGN . Certes ( разговор ) 23:52, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Почему бы тогда не перенаправить на статью, которая раскрывает эту концепцию? Это Святой Дух в иудаизме (который является целью Руаха ). - Уанфала (разговорное) 14:37, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
      Если есть какие-либо доказательства того, что rooah на иврите означает Святой Дух, тогда да, это будет допустимая цель, потому что язык имеет отношение к теме. Certes ( обсуждение ) 14:52, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: статья Vcite [ править ]

  • Template:Vcite paper → Template:Vcite journal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Moved from TfD/April 26. Original reason: "Added years ago during citation changeover and has not been used in years. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)". (User:GKFXtalk moved this 21:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

Delete per nom. User:GKFXtalk 22:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

M156[edit]

  • M156 → M-156 (Мичиганское шоссе) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Перенацеливание на двигатель Mercedes-Benz M156 в качестве основной цели. Результаты поиска показывают, что это наиболее распространенное использование. Шоссе Мичиган более местное по своей природе и в любом случае обычно обозначается как M-156. МБ 18:49, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Ретаргетинг по ном. При поиске по запросу "M156" все, кроме двух попаданий на первых трех страницах, были непосредственно связаны с двигателем Mercedes, а два, которые не были связаны с шоссе Мичиган (один был сигнальной лампой для грузовиков и экскаваторов, другой был косметикой щетка). Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 19:12, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Устранение неоднозначности (скорее как M178 ). Есть и другие варианты использования. Я создал страницу с текущим редиректом. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:58, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Я согласен, что необходима страница с разрешением неоднозначности, я не согласен с тем, что она должна быть в базовом названии, поскольку двигатель Mercedes - явная основная тема. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:18, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Я создал M178 недавно. Есть много Mxxx, которые являются как двигателями Mercedes, так и автомагистралями Мичигана. Я согласен с тем, что в данном случае используется двигатель PT и, возможно, некоторые другие, в которых в настоящее время используется базовое имя. МБ 13:23, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
      • @ Thryduulf : хорошо замечает . Я переместил черновик страницы значений неоднозначности, чтобы создать M156 (значения) . Мое мнение теперь перенастроено на двигатель Mercedes-Benz M156 с пометкой . Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:38, 5 мая 2021 (UTC){{redirect|M156}}
  • Неоднозначность - 67.70.27.105 ( Обсуждение ) 1:37, 5 мая 2021 (UTC)

Апартаменты Arboretum Oaks [ править ]

  • Arboretum Oaks Apartments → Список массовых расстрелов в США в 2021 году ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Статья, на которую это указывает, была перенаправлена ​​на текущую цель. Поскольку апартаменты Arboretum Oaks не упоминаются в целевом объекте, я думаю, что это следует удалить. подписали, Rosguill разговор 18:37, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Ретаргетинг - Ретаргетинг на съемки в Остине 2021 года, где это упоминается. - Jax 0677 ( разговорное ) 01:06, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

GQP [ править ]

Delete Закрытое обсуждение , см. Полное обсуждение . Результат был: Speedy Delete, G7 .

ICICB Group [ править ]

  • ICICB Group → Atari SA ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Статья была удалена согласно Википедии: Статьи для удаления / ICICB Group и платный / UPE редактор, теперь заблокированный, вошли и добавили перенаправление против консенсуса. scope_creep Talk 14:27, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Быстрое удаление G4 и G5 как воссоздание удаленной статьи заблокированным пользователем. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 14:44, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Обратите внимание: G5 не применяется, когда пользователь был заблокирован ПОСЛЕ того, как он что-то сделал. Блокировка Lyanbox связана с CIR / сбоями, а не с оплатой / UPE. Обзор удаленной статьи не показывает вовлеченных заблокированных пользователей. G4 также не применяется. Редирект не имеет ничего общего с удаленным контентом. - хорек ( разговор ) 15:42, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить Хотя ICICB упоминается в Atari SA # Atari Chain , маловероятно, что любой читатель, который действительно знает о ICICB Group, ожидает, что его перенаправят в раздел компании, выпускающей видеоигры. Помимо рекламных соглашений, компании не имеют никакого отношения. - хорек ( разговор ) 15:47, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment: While the redirect to Atari SA is indeed confusing, the ICICB Group appears to be independently notable and worthy of a separate article if their homepage[7] can be trusted – that is, if the ICICB Group indeed has 58 subsidiaries and 114 branches in 26 countries, and manages $2.6 billion in assets. A better solution would perhaps be to create the article. — kashmīrī TALK 17:23, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    Considering a (lightly attended) AFD just deleted it a week ago as non-notable, that's unlikely right now. That's a topic for DRV though, I suppose. -- ferret (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Tang-e Shur[edit]

  • Тан-э Шур → Тан-э Шур-э Оля ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

«Тан-е-шур» - это одно, «Тан-и-шур-э Оля» - совсем другое. Оля означает «верхняя». Эти абади находятся в разных округах одной провинции. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 14:08, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:27, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Баба Адам [ править ]

  • Баба Адам → Баба Адам Шахид ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Цель не имеет значения: Баба Адам находится в Иране, Баба Адам Шахид находится в Бенгалии. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 14:06, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:26, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Mazraeh-ye Gorgan-e Bitaraf [ править ]

  • Mazraeh-ye Gorgan-e Bitaraf → Gorgan (значения) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:59, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была направлена, и отправьте в AfD. @ Ymblanter : не следовало перенаправлять эту статью на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговорное ) 11:24, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Восстановление не вариант, он был отклонен сообществом. Возможны следующие варианты: удаление или перенаправление, - Ymblanter ( разговор ) 11:29, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC).
    Это относится ко всем перенаправлениям, которые я создал ниже, - Ymblanter ( доклад ) 11:36, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC).
    @ Ymblanter : И откуда мне это знать? Ничто в RfD или в любой из целевых статей не ссылается на какое-либо обсуждение / консенсус. На первый взгляд, это отклоненные PRODS, неправильно перенаправленные на страницы значений неоднозначности. Они должны быть возвращены к сути до того, как PROD был применен, и с ними поступили надлежащим образом. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:53, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
    [8] - Имблантер ( разговор ) 11:58, 4 мая 2021 года (UTC)
    @ Ymblanter : Хорошо, если массовое удаление согласовано, то они должны быть удалены массово. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 12:09, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Хасанабад-э Гударз [ править ]

  • Хасанабад-э Гударз → Хасанабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:59, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте Tom AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговорное ) 11:28, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Солтанабад-и Танбали [ править ]

  • Soltanabad-е Tanbali → Soltanabad ( разговор · Ссылки · История · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:59, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:30, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Акбарабад-э До [ править ]

  • Акбарабад-э До → Акбарабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 13:58, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговорное ) 11:31, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Хосейнабад-э Качали [ править ]

  • Hoseynabad-е Kachali → Hoseynabad ( разговор · Ссылки · История · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 13:58, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:32, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Алиабад Заре [ править ]

  • Алиабад Заре → Алиабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 13:58, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхноцолоуд ( разговор ) 11:33, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

До Аб-э Алишахи [ править ]

  • До Аб-э Алишахи → До Аб ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговорное ) 13:58, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:34, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

До Аб, Хузестан [ править ]

  • До Аб, Хузестан → До Аб ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:57, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Обратите внимание, что «Do Ab, Khuzestan» неоднозначно, и результатом процесса удаления может быть перенаправление на страницу с разрешением неоднозначности, но исходный PROD не имеет смысла («Во-первых, он имеет термин mazraeh (ферма) в его имя ": это не так). Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:39, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Мехдиабад, Шахдад [ править ]

  • Мехдиабад, Шахдад → Мехдиабад, Иран ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:57, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Исходный PROD не имеет смысла («Во-первых, в его названии есть термин mazraeh (ферма)»: нет). Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:41, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Мохаммадабад-э Табатбайи [ править ]

  • Мохаммадабад-э Табатбайи → Мохаммадабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:57, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхноцолоуд ( разговор ) 11:44, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Солтанабад, Сарбишех [ править ]

  • Солтанабад, Сарбишех → Солтанабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( разговор ) 13:57, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:43, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Амирабад, Кашан [ править ]

  • Амирабад, Кашан → Амирабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( обсуждение ) 13:56, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:45, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Каримабад-э Каффех [ править ]

  • Каримабад-и-Каффех → Каримабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( обсуждение ) 13:56, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:47, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Мохаммадабад, Канават [ править ]

  • Mohammadabad, Qanavat → Mohammadabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mokhtarabad, Jiroft[edit]

  • Мохтарабад, Джирофт → Мохтарабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( обсуждение ) 13:56, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:55, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Амирабад, Илам [ править ]

  • Амирабад, Илам → Амирабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( обсуждение ) 13:55, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:56, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Маджидабад-э Ардалан [ править ]

  • Маджидабад-э Ардалан → Маджидабад ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Определенное geoname было перенаправлено на страницу с общими значениями неоднозначности. Это контрастирует с философией страниц с определением неоднозначности, которая должна перенаправлять читателей с общих страниц на конкретные. 4nn1l2 ( обсуждение ) 13:54, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Восстановите версию до того, как она была перенаправлена, и отправьте в AfD. Он не должен был быть перенаправлен на страницу значений. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 11:56, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Малиновый водопад [ править ]

  • Малиновый водопад → Мистер Шоу с Бобом и Дэвидом ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в статье, выглядит как фраза из одной строки в одном эскизе. Лорд Белбери ( разговор ) 11:42, 25 апреля 2021 (UTC)

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  • Удалить . Это не «Летающий цирк Монти Пайтона», где примечательны многие зарисовки. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 18:05, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить по ном. - dylx ( t | c ) 12:50, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить, как указано выше. Джей ( разговор ) 16:18, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

Вспышка (фильм, 2016) [ править ]

  • Флэш (фильм, 2016) → Флэш (фильм) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Согласно этому XfD : для него никогда не было официальной даты 2016 года. Kailash29792 (разговорное) 06:39, 25 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Следите за актуальной информацией в статье. Предварительный выпуск 2016 года был первым выпуском фильма в версии DCEU, несмотря на то, что прошел всего год, это все еще выпуск, который был назначен раньше других задержек. Trailblazer101 ( обсуждение ) 14:02, 25 апреля 2021 года (UTC)
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Автопортрет в возрасте 34 лет [ править ]

Split or bespoke decisions Закрытое обсуждение , см. Полное обсуждение . Результат: неправильное место проведения . См. Википедию: Запрошенные ходы / Технические запросы

Журнал исследований терроризма [ править ]

  • Journal of Terrorism Research → Терроризм и политическое насилие ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Я считаю, что целью этого перенаправления должна быть Contemporary Voices , нынешнее название журнала, который с 2010 по 2017 год назывался Journal of Terrorism Research и который неоднократно упоминался в этом качестве. Если вы посмотрите « Разговор: терроризм и политическое насилие» и информацию, которую я привел в начале этой статьи, вы увидите, что этот журнал на самом деле никогда не назывался Journal of Terrorism Research , а упоминается как таковой только в единственной редакционной статье. манифест". Я думаю, что это могло быть название, когда-то придуманное для этого журнала, но оно было изменено перед публикацией, регистрацией и т. Д., И они просто забыли изменить название в этом манифесте. Laterthanyouthink ( разговор) 02:13, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Есть ли у @ Headbomb : мнение: их часто интересуют журналы? Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 12:01, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Я в основном считаю, что целью должен быть первый журнал с таким названием. Это не особенно строгое мнение, я просто знаю, что мне бы хотелось, чтобы его обсуждали в сообществе, а не один человек решал, какой должна быть цель перенаправления. Headbomb { t · c · p · b } 18:40, 4 мая 2021 года (UTC)

Франсуа-Вольф Лигонде [ править ]

  • Франсуа-Вольф Лигонде → Франсуа-Вольф Лигонде ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Я сумасшедший? Разве это название не совпадает с целью статьи? Ивар Костяной ( разговор ) 13:29, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)

Кажется, разница в дефисе. Первый - неразрывный дефис, а второй - дефис с минусом (дефис на клавиатуре). Super Ψ Dro 14:08, 24 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • Сохраняйте в соответствии с Super Dro и WP: RPURPOSE Проблемы с пунктуацией. Джей ( разговорное ) 11:11, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте вышеизложенное. Перенаправления с одного типа дефиса на другой тип почти всегда являются хорошими перенаправлениями. Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 12:16, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Держите запись «Проездной». Это определенно стоит сохранить. Должно быть больше. scope_creep Talk 14:29, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

Pinkston Watersports [ править ]

  • Pinkston Watersports → Pinkston ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Малоиспользуемое перенаправление с 21 просмотром в календаре 2020 года, которое ничего не делает, кроме ссылки на список значений неоднозначности. Роберт МакКленон ( разговор ) 14:52, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)

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  • Перенацеливание на Список курсов искусственной бурной воды . Это реальное место и ссылка на него. МБ 04:19, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Перенацелите на Список курсов искусственной бурной воды, где это упомянуто. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 12:03, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

1 мая [ править ]

Кратон Восточного Китая [ править ]

  • Кратон Восточный Китай → Китай ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Нигде в Википедии нет релевантного контента, кроме простых упоминаний в списках . Если это так, то перенаправление лучше удалить, чтобы стимулировать создание статьи. - Уанфала (разговорное) 22:44, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить или перенастроить текущую цель перенаправления не имеет смысла. Список щитов и кратонных изделий был бы лучше, если бы сохранился. CMD ( разговор ) 08:15, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить на WP: REDLINK . Все другие кратоны в списке, который я проверял, имеют статьи, поэтому кажется желательным, чтобы это тоже была статья. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 11:36, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Под Восточно-Китайским кратоном есть удаленная история - может, стоит поискать кого-нибудь, кто может? - Уанфала (разговорное) 15:54, 2 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Он был создан как редирект дважды, в октябре 2009 года в кратон Восточного Китая компанией Scooteristi, но удален в WP: CSD # G8 (этот заголовок не был создан до 2016 года). В январе 2010 года он был создан как перенаправление на Южный Китай (континент) (перенаправление на Южно-Китайский кратон ) Xuz (поскольку заблокирован как sockpuppet), который через минуту пометил его для быстрого удаления G7 с комментарием «моя ошибка». Так что, к сожалению, полезной истории нет. Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 20:40, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить , не найдено ни одного источника, связанного с перенацеливанием на другое место. Обсуждение Sun8908  15:22, 3 мая 2021 (UTC)

GTA 6 [ править ]

  • GTA 6 → Grand Theft Auto # Титулы ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • GTA VI → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Нет подтвержденных планов относительно перехода Grand Theft Auto IV в WP: CRYSTALlization , как утверждается в обсуждениях Grand Theft Auto IV и Grand Theft Auto 6 ниже. Зачем нам они все еще валяются, если это так? С уважением, SONIC 678 22:38, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалите и соль, как показано ниже. Даже если были планы на эту игру, в текущей целевой статье нет упоминания о 6-й игре или каких-либо будущих планах по франшизе. Если их удалить, их следует засолить, поскольку две из них, приведенные ниже, часто становились объектами рассылки спама и статей-мистификаций без источника. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:49, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Salt until a GTA 6 is officially announced. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't even come out. Dominicmgm (talk) 13:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Broad streets[edit]

  • Broad streets → Street light  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I can't quite make sense of the redirect. There are multiple things on Wikipedia that might be referred to by "broad street", but none of them would plausibly use a plural. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:57, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak delete. Broad Street (disambiguation) exists but I think some content about road width would be a more likely target, but if we have a suitable article I haven't found it. Thryduulf (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as too vague. Street has the phrase "broader two-way streets", which is a possible target (but still not a good one, hense delete). MB 04:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

White Railway Station[edit]

  • Белый вокзал → Кадугоди ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Похоже, это относится к железнодорожной станции Уайтфилд (Бангалор) , хотя поиск в Интернете не предполагает, что она упоминается под этим именем.~~~~
Пользователь: 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( обсуждение )
21:49, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить . Все, что я могу найти в Google, - это железнодорожные станции или их части (указатели, навесы, часы и т. Д.), Которые оказались белыми. Если он не удален, его следует упомянуть на странице значений неоднозначности White Station . Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 11:50, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить . В Мемфисе есть Уайт-Стейшн, на «месте Уайтс-Стейшн, исторической железнодорожной станции, построенной в 1842 году», но я не думаю, что кто-то, ищущий это, напечатал бы именно это. МБ 04:43, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить . Белая железнодорожная станция - это та форма, которую я ожидал, но это красная ссылка, и ничто на Белой станции не является железнодорожной станцией. Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 12:14, 4 мая 2021 (UTC)

Long Hots [ править ]

  • Long Hots → Chili pepper ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Поиск в Интернете предполагает, что это относится к конкретному перцу, используемому в итальянской (итало-американской?) Кухне, но я не могу найти в Википедии ни одной статьи, которая бы соответствовала ему или упоминала бы его иным образом. Я бы предложил удалить, чтобы стимулировать создание статьи. подписали, Rosguill разговор 19:05, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Википедия: НОВИНКА [ править ]

  • Википедия: НОВИНКА → Википедия: создание статьи ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Wikipedia:New → Help:Your first article  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Help:New → Help:Your first article  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Поскольку по крайней мере некоторые из этих перенаправлений явно предназначены для того, чтобы их оставлять в сообщениях для новичков, я думаю, что они должны быть синхронизированы, чтобы указывать на одну и ту же цель (и Help: NEW создается и указывается в одном месте). Для новичка было бы нехорошо, если бы кто-то сказал им прочитать «WP: New», чтобы получить помощь, они набрали «WP: NEW» в строке поиска и оказались в совершенно другом месте. WP: NEW действительно имеет около 1000 обратных ссылок, но почти все они находятся в сообщениях на старых страницах обсуждения и фактически должны ссылаться на WP: New Users Log . 86.23.109.101 ( разговорное ) 13:26, 16 апреля 2021 (UTC)

This makes sense. WP:NEW originally linked to WP:New Users Log, AFAICS you're right and the vast majority are trying to link there, so by redirecting it again we wouldn't be losing much. ··gracefool 💬 23:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't mind the Help:New going towards the Help:Your first article , and Wikipedia:New going towards Wikipedia:Article creation, but no preference either way. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 14:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget Wikipedia: Новое в Википедии: Создание статей . Ничего не делайте для двух других, они в порядке. Джей ( разговор ) 17:19, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Русско-румынское двуязычие [ править ]

  • Русско-румынское двуязычие → Языки Молдовы ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Невероятный редирект, никто бы не стал искать "русско-румынский билигуизм" в поисках языков, на которых говорят в Молдове. Редирект получил 0 посещений за последние 30 дней и, вероятно, за последние месяцы. Следует также отметить, что в Молдове не все говорят по-русски; только 15% населения заявили, что используют русский язык в повседневной жизни (в то время как румынский говорит все в Молдове). Super Ψ Dro 09:58, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Американские вещательные компании [ править ]

  • Американские вещательные компании → Американская вещательная компания ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это перенаправление, ранее являвшееся страницей значений неоднозначности, могло бы быть лучше нацелено на American Broadcasting-Paramount Theaters . Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 10:08, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Оставить как есть . Это альтернативное официальное название сети. Текущая цель подходящая. oknazevad ( разговор ) 19:46, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • disambiguate восстановить dab-страницу с двумя указанными здесь записями. - 67.70.27.246 ( разговорное ) 21:37, 24 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • Disambig . Восстановите страницу dab с тремя записями, которые там были. Джей ( разговор ) 17:39, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Оставить как есть . Я думаю, что у Shhhh & Ok есть веская точка зрения. В последний раз, когда я смотрел финальные титры эпизода General Hospital, сетевого шоу ABC, в уведомлении об авторских правах упоминалось «American Broadcasting Companies, Inc.», потому что это шоу по большей части производится самой сетью. 2600: 1700: C960: 2270: 6883: 8981: DA9D: 984D ( разговор ) 21:31, 2 мая 2021 года (UTC)

Бесщеточный электродвигатель переменного тока [ править ]

  • Бесщеточный электродвигатель переменного тока → Бесщеточный электродвигатель постоянного тока ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Бесщеточный электродвигатель переменного тока → Бесщеточный электродвигатель постоянного тока ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Я искал двигатели переменного тока, а не двигатели постоянного тока. SCP-053 ( разговор ) 07:15, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Перенацелить на что-нибудь. Я мало что знаю о двигателях, но я думаю, что этот термин довольно широк, поэтому нацеливание на двигатель переменного тока , вероятно, сработает, с множеством ссылок на более конкретные типы. Другие более конкретные варианты потенциально включают синхронный двигатель и электрическую машину с двойным питанием , но я не уверен, подходят ли они или полностью соответствуют поисковому запросу. Mdewman6 ( разговорное ) 17:20, 25 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Комментарий : если посмотреть на историю, это перенаправление было связано с перемещением страницы, поскольку текущая цель изначально была связана с версией переменного тока, затем переместилась только на бесщеточный электродвигатель , а затем в конечном итоге переместилась к текущему заголовку, поскольку статья действительно фокусируется на двигателях постоянного тока . Может быть некоторая ценность в поддержании текущей цели, но я думаю, что перенацеливание на что-то, описывающее двигатели переменного тока, было бы более полезным. Mdewman6 ( разговор ) 17:26, 25 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Комментарий в нижнем регистре тоже есть !!!, добавил я. SCP-053 ( разговор ) 10:12, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
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  • Перенацеливание на двигатель переменного тока . Шхнотсолоуд ( разговор ) 07:22, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на двигатель переменного тока согласно Mdewman6. Джей ( разговор ) 18:17, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto 6 [ править ]

  • Grand Theft Auto 6 → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

То же самое и с его сестринской страницей Grand Theft Auto VI , игра не существует и официально не подтверждена Rockstar Games. Любое видео с названием «официальный» на YouTube - это розыгрыш. На самом деле это своего рода хрустальный шар. Ни одна статья не использует эту страницу перенаправления. Kaseng55 ( разговорное ) 05:35, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удаляем и солим . В целевой статье не упоминается GTA 6 и не упоминаются какие-либо планы на будущее по этой серии. Единственный контент в истории страницы - это фальшивый контент об игре, выпущенной в 2017 году, полученный из поддельных видео на YouTube. В случае удаления, вероятно, потребуется солить, так как было несколько попыток сделать статью с этим заголовком. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:06, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto VI [ править ]

  • Grand Theft Auto VI → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Эта игра не существует, и Rockstar Games официально не подтвердили ее. Любое видео с официальным названием, которое вы видите на YouTube, - это просто розыгрыш. Также это может быть своего рода хрустальный шар. Ни одна статья не использует эту страницу перенаправления. Kaseng55 ( разговорное ) 05:32, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удаляем и солим . В целевой статье не упоминается GTA 6 и не упоминаются какие-либо планы на будущее по этой серии. Единственный контент в истории страницы - это фальшивый контент об игре, выпущенной в 2017 году, полученный из поддельных видео на YouTube. В случае удаления, вероятно, потребуется солить, так как было несколько попыток сделать статью с этим заголовком. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:06, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Велике журі присяжних [ править ]

  • Велике журі присяжних → Большое жюри ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить для WP: FORRED : украинский термин не упоминается в целевом объекте , и нет особой связи этого термина с украинским языком. UnitedStatesian ( разговорное ) 03:58, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Очень слабый ретаргетинг на судебную систему Украины , иначе удаляем. Общее понятие большого жюри не имеет конкретной связи с украинским языком. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:01, 1 мая 2021 года (UTC)

Гендерное насилие [ править ]

  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Гендерное насилие также включает насилие в отношении мужчин и насилие в отношении ЛГБТ . Шарузер ( разговор ) 02:39, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambig (или setindexify) для гендерного насилия (для соответствия категории: гендерное насилие ). Некоторые статьи в категории также будут иметь смысл для индекса «мазок / набор» (например, гендерное насилие в Интернете ). Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:01, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

30 апреля [ править ]

Мораи [ править ]

  • Мораи → Хейау ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевом объекте , но, вероятно, может относиться к другим темам, таким как Рашид Мораи или ссылка на ссылку в {{ Области Ченнаи }}. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠 ) 20:36, 23 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Комментарий Я также искал это перенаправление в поисках Мойраи . Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 15:53, 28 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
    @ OcelotCreeper Также может быть опечатка Мираи .~~~~
    Пользователь: 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( обсуждение )
    08:51, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • " Morae , Marae , Мораи - термин , используемый иностранными наблюдателями при обращении к Heiau " - https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/kona/historyg.htm Nurg ( разговор ) 2:05, 2 мая 2021 (UTC )
  • Нацелить на Марае за Nurg. marae означает священное место, которое служит религиозным и социальным целям в полинезийских обществах. Мораи действительно упоминается в текущей цели, см. Изображение с подписью: «Иллюстрация Уильяма Эллиса на хейау в заливе Кеалакекуа во время третьего плавания Джеймса Кука». Изображение говорит, что это вид на Мораи. В описании изображения в Commons говорится, что это Мораи в заливе Кеалакекуа. В статье Кеалакекуа Бэй упоминается Мораи как священное место захоронения. Джей ( разговорное ) 11:52, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

Туаху [ править ]

  • Tuahu → Heiau ( разговор · Ссылки · История · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в мишени. Результаты поиска предполагают, что речь идет о каком-то алтаре или святыне, но в настоящее время ни одна статья не описывает эту тему отдельно. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠 ) 20:26, 23 апреля 2021 (UTC)

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  • Туаху на языке маори означает алтарь. Гавайская форма - аху , упоминаемая в « Хейау ». Не исключено, что в конечном итоге для « Туаху »будет создана статья . Между тем, изменение редиректа на ссылку на страницу значений " Ahu " - разумный вариант. Нург ( разговорное ) 02:32, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Нацелить на аху на Nurg. Джей ( разговорное ) 11:54, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)

Акула тардикака [ править ]

  • Акула тардикака → Южный парк ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевой статье. Возможно, акула упоминалась в Crippled Summer , но, поскольку я никогда не видел шоу, я понятия не имею, будет ли это правдоподобным перенаправлением для этого. Обсуждение на свиной ферме 22:53, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить . Не упоминается в целевой статье. Редиректу уже почти десять лет, единственная ревизия до превращения в перенаправление была короткой заглушкой без ссылок, указывающих на то, что символ вообще существует. J I P | Обсуждение 15:11, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Connected (предстоящий фильм) [ править ]

  • Connected (предстоящий фильм) → The Mitchells vs. the Machines ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Фильм больше не выходит. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 19:35, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалять больше не нужно. Connected (фильм) существует и перенаправляет на страницу Connected Disamb, где TM&TM указан соответствующим образом. В худшем случае не помешает сохранить его в течение нескольких месяцев, поскольку люди начинают понимать, что фильм вышел на экраны, но на самом деле его должно быть легко найти в других местах поиска. - М ASEM ( т ) 19:40, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Оставьте пока. Несмотря на то, что страница была перемещена в январе, она по-прежнему получает много просмотров (более 200 за 30 дней, предшествующих этой номинации), что указывает на то, что она все еще необходима. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 19:59, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Следите за Thryduulf, читатели связываются здесь внешними ссылками, и их нарушение путем удаления этого перенаправления было бы неоптимальным. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:15, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Хранить в соответствии с Thryduulf. В общем, нам следует избегать удаления перенаправления, если раньше это был заголовок статьи. - Mx. Грейнджер  ( Обсуждение · вклад ) 08:34, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Капитан Томас Мур [ править ]

  • Капитан Томас Мур → Капитан Том Мур ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Возможно двусмысленное, может относиться к тезке капитана Томаса Мура Хауса . ‑‑ Невезельберт ( обсуждение  · вклад  · электронная почта ) 18:57, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC) Также Томас Патрик Мур и Томас Мур (казначей британских вооруженных сил за рубежом) . ‑‑ Невезельберт ( обсуждение  · вклад  · электронная почта ) 20:42, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Сохраните и добавьте пометку. На самом деле у нас нет статьи о другом капитане Томе. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 19:38, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраните и добавьте шляпную пометку к дому. Текущая цель, похоже, единственный человек в Томасе Муре (значения) , которого можно было бы назвать капитаном. Обсуждение Hog Farm 19:44, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте вышеизложенное. Теоретическая неоднозначность не обязательно означает неоднозначность на практике. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 20:00, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Оставьте и сделайте пометку выше. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:13, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Оставьте и сделайте пометку, как указано выше. Джозеф 2302 ( разговор) 19:59, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

Checkgate [ править ]

  • Checkgate → Cocomelon ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевом объекте, удалить, если не может быть представлено обоснование. подписано, разговор Росгилла 17:45, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Комментарий : здесь нет голосования, просто проясняю ... это исходное имя пользователя канала YouTube, которое все еще можно увидеть, посетив http://youtube.com/checkgate . Почему создатели открыли свой аккаунт под именем checkgate ? Мы не знаем и, скорее всего, никогда не узнаем ... стоит упомянуть, что это существительное нарицательное, наиболее распространенное в индийском английском и, по крайней мере, заслуживает упоминания в Викисловаре. - Мыло - 18:26, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалять до тех пор, пока / пока не будет создана запись в Викисловаре, в этом случае мягкое перенаправление . Многие пользователи YouTube имеют имена пользователей, которые не имеют ничего общего с именами, которые они используют - например, Том Скотт/enyay , к своему огорчению, долгое время держал свой канал на своем канале , - и я не вижу никаких признаков того, что кто-то когда-либо ссылается на канал Cocomelon под этим именем за пределами нескольких автоматизированных списков. -  Тамзин (они / она) | о токи тава ми. 17:53, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Краличе Икинджи Элизабет [ править ]

  • Краличе Икинчи Елизавета → Елизавета II ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Краличе Елизавета → Елизавета II ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить для каждого WP: RLOTE , нет особого сходства между Елизаветой II и Турцией или турецкая подпись, разговор Росгилла 17:38, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. Если оставить, второй должен перенаправить на королеву Елизавету . DrKay ( разговор ) 18:51, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Есть связь между королевой Елизаветой II и турецкой стороной. Она королева Акротири и Декелии , и одним из основных языков здесь является турецкий. Я не знаю, достаточно ли этого для сохранения перенаправления. - Mx. Грейнджер  ( Обсуждение · вклад ) 08:39, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Держите №1 , перенацелите №2 на Mx. Логика Грейнджер и аргумент Доктора Кея в качестве альтернативы . Если это допустимый способ обращения к ней на официальном языке и / или широко распространенном в регионе, которым она управляет, WP: RLOTE, похоже, удовлетворяет. -  Тамзин (она / они) | о токи тава ми. 17:58, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    • На самом деле, я заметил, что tr: Kraliçe İkinci Elizabeth не существует. Может ли говорящий по-турецки пояснить, является ли это правдоподобным выражением по-турецки? Поразительно мой! Голосование за №1 до тех пор. ( tr: Kraliçe Elizabeth перенаправляет на tr: II. Elizabeth , но я не думаю, что это имеет большое значение для нашего собственного решения «II» против DAB.) -  Тамзин (они / она) | о токи тава ми. 18:47, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
      • Это правдоподобно? И да и нет. Это правильно в том смысле, как его произносят (ср. «Королева Елизавета Вторая»), но обычно пишется как II. Элизабет (как и в турецкой вики-статье ). Я сильно сомневаюсь, будет ли кто-нибудь действительно искать это так, даже в турецкой вики, не говоря уже о англоязычной. (Опять же, я не могу понять, почему кто-то будет искать эту тему на турецком в английской вики, используя любой поисковый запрос!)
Что касается языка Акротири и Декелии, единственным официальным языком здесь является английский; Турецкоязычные - небольшое меньшинство, и, исходя из кипрской политики последней полувека, я предполагаю, что их лояльные тосты направлены в сторону Анкары, а не Лондона. Я думаю, что вся проблема A&D здесь - отвлекающий маневр. - DoubleGrazing ( разговор ) 12:57, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить как указано. - DoubleGrazing ( разговор ) 12:57, 3 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Хаделин Де Понтевес [ править ]

  • Хаделин Де Понтевес → Наука о данных ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевом объекте, удалить, если не может быть представлено обоснование. Судя по результатам поиска Google Scholar, это имя специалиста по данным, но, если они не обсуждаются в целевой аудитории, от перенаправления мало толку. подписано, разговор Росгилля 17:34, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить Похоже на попытку SEO, связав человека с темой. Голубая малина (разговор) 17:47, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)

Шенли А.В. [ править ]

  • Шенли А.В. → Шенли ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Похоже, это произошло из-за несчастного случая или вандализма в GeoNames, см. Историю редактирования записи о поселении Шенли . В результатах Google появляется улица Шенли-роуд (предположительно, Шенли-авеню) и зеркала GeoNames. Таким образом, перенаправление является неоднозначным и неправильным, поскольку оно возникло из-за ошибки источника, которая существовала с 2010 по 2017 год, но теперь исправлена. Крауч, Свейл ( разговорное ) 17:14, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Это был вандализм; другие изменения в той же учетной записи GeoNames включают переименование прихода Кингс-Лэнгли в «Сент-Джейдс-авеню», перемещение Ливсдена-Грин на несколько миль от его реального местоположения и добавление «Озеро Лала». Большинство шведских и кебуанских статей о местах в Хартфордшире были созданы ботом, и в них говорится, что «Озеро Лала» в Сент-Олбансе является самой высокой точкой в ​​графстве (на высоте 1546 метров над уровнем моря, что делает его выше, чем у Бен-Невиса. ). Питер Джеймс ( разговор ) 21:38, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Очистите регистр для удаления, затем Сложность: 15:23, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Типока-Сити [ править ]

  • Типока-Сити → Список планет и лун из «Звездных войн» # Камино ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Упоминается только на enwiki вскользь у солдата-клона и в названии «Внутренний город Типока» в списке реплик в Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (саундтрек) . ИМО ни одна из этих целей не является полезной, поэтому удаление лучше, если где-то не добавлено упоминание источника. Обсуждение Hog Farm 17:03, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

Винилйодид [ править ]

  • Винилиодид → Функциональная группа винилиодида ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Статьи о базовом составе нет. Следует ли удалить это перенаправление для каждого WP: REDLINK или переместить цель через это перенаправление или в другой заголовок? - Прачечная Пицца 03 ( d c̄ ) 16:31, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • keep - до тех пор, пока не будет написана статья о базовом составе. Информация о подгруппе существенно перекликается с составом. - awkwafaba ( 📥 ) 16:49, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

George Trebek[edit]

  • George Trebek → Alex Trebek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Currently, a hatnote at Alex Trebek points to George Trebeck (with a "c"). Alex Trebek is, certainly, a more notable figure than George Trebeck. However, I can find barely any instances of anyone ever referring to Trebek by just his first and last names. The Googling is somewhat complicated by the fact that his father had the same first name, but "george trebek" -father turns up only one relevant result that I can find: this blog post describing an article the Ottawa Citizen allegedly ran in 1961. It refers to him as "George Trebek" in the headline but "George Alexander Trebek", second reference "Alexander", in the body. (I'll note that a search for the quoted headline returns only that blog post, nothing from the Citizen itself, and the blog isn't exactly an RS.)

Given all that, I find it rather unlikely that someone would search for our article on Trebek using this search term. I suppose someone could be looking for information about his father, but the article only says a few words about George E. Trebek, so in that case a redirect is misleading. I propose retargeting to George Trebeck with hatnote pointing to the current target. Second choice delete per WP:XY. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 13:42, 30 April 2021 (UTC) Added context (see underlined portion). -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 15:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep - I can't understand what this proposal is about because George Trebek is a page, not a redirect. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Kautilya3: Perhaps the issue is the similar titles? George Trebek, the subject of this RFD, redirects to Alex Trebek. George Trebeck (note the "c"), my proposed new target, is an article about a 19th-century explorer. Unless I'm hallucinating here... -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 15:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Kautilya3: err, George Trebek is a redirect to Alex Trebek, and has been since creation in 2014. Thryduulf (talk) 15:28, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per nom. (Sorry for all the confusion!) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep most people would guess at "-eck", not "-ek", if they didn't know the spelling, and it's unlikely that this would ever have been created as a redirect to George Trebeck. If there are sources for this as an alternative spelling of Trebeck, I would support retargeting. Peter James (talk) 16:50, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep although not common, I did find this with "George A. Trebek". MB 03:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Frederick Joseph[edit]

  • Frederick Joseph → Fred Flintstone  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Redirect that is not explained in the target article, but was created twelve years ago by an account that has now been globally locked. In the absence of a better explanation, suggest that the redirect be viewed as vandalism. Robert McClenon (talk) 13:01, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Fred Joseph whose full name was Frederick. Thryduulf (talk) 15:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Fred Joseph as above. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

MJ (South-Korean Singer[edit]

  • MJ (South-Korean Singer → Astro (South Korean band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Per WP:RDAB, implausible typo with missing right paren. Was only an article for a mere 10 minutes in 2016 before being changed to a redirect. —Bagumba (talk) 10:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom, but in the unlikely event it isn't deleted it should be retargetted to MJ (South Korean singer). Thryduulf (talk) 11:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Should have been cleared for typos and inappropriate hyphen and caps ages ago. MJ (South Korean singer) can be retained. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete this misdirecting search bar clutter per above. Why should we retain this if it'll get readers lost? Regards, SONIC678 06:49, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete this error. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:26, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

阿裡巴巴公司[edit]

  • 阿裡巴巴公司 → Alibaba Group  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Incorrect Traditional Chinese form of the company name. 里 in Simplified Chinese corresponds to two different Traditional characters, 里 ("mile") and 裡 ("lining, inside"). The company name uses the former, not the latter (see e.g. zh.wp, yue.wp). Deryck C. 09:45, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Sun8908 Talk 19:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep tag as {{R from typo}} per the nominator. If the simplified Chinese character corresponds to two different traditional Chinese characters, obviously, it will be a typo. -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 01:33, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nominator. Due to the nature of how Chinese input methods work, this is a WP:R#D8 implausible typo. If you type the whole phrase "a li ba ba" into a pinyin-based input method, 阿裡巴巴 wouldn't even show up. If you input individual pinyin syllables one by one, you are no more likely to mis-select 裡 than any other dozens of homophonous characters. In Cangjie, typing 裡 (LWG) instead of 里 (WG) requires you to hit "L" by accident all the way on the other side of the keyboard for no reason, no more likely than misspelling Alibaba Group as Alibaba Lgroup. Et cetera. Additionally, even plausible foreign-language typos are probably a bridge too far for WP:RLOTE. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 10:16, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Millimetre of rain[edit]

  • Millimetre of rain → Rain gauge  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This was deleted per WP:R3 (implausible typo). Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 April 21 overturned the deletion and sent the redirect here for discussion. This is a procedural nomination, I am neutral. Sandstein 09:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Rain#Measurement was suggested as an alternative target during the DRV. Thryduulf (talk) 11:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Rain#Measurement, as I suggested at DRV. This is a plausible search term but Rain gauge is mostly about the practicalities of building/using rain gauges rather than the units used to measure rain. Hut 8.5 11:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Rain#Measurement, where this is directly discussed. Hog Farm Talk 14:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Starmaya Coffee[edit]

  • Starmaya Coffee → Starmaya coffee  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Article is brand new. Was moved from namespace (1st redirect created) then moved again to correct title case (2nd redirect created). 2nd redirect created a double redirect that a bot later correct. However, because the article is brand new, no redirects are necessary and any future redirects will again create a double redirect. Michael.C.Wright (talk) 09:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep this is a harmless {{R from other capitalisation}}. Thryduulf (talk) 11:08, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Yeah, I meant to mention that - this kind capitalization redirect is almost invariably retained as being a plausible alternate search term someone might type in. Don't bother yourself about it :) --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:03, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - Seems a logical and plausible alternate search term. And harmless, as well. Hog Farm Talk 22:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Harmless redirect from capitalisation. Should only be deleted if target article is also deleted. JIP | Talk 15:09, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Johnson Aviation[edit]

  • Johnson Aviation → Drug Enforcement Administration  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I'm fairly confused by this one. "Johnson Aviation" is not mentioned in the target article, and it wasn't mentioned in the revision current when this was created, either. WP:BEFORE turns up aircraft companies in Iowa and Texas, although I did find one site I don't think is RS connecting a Ft. Lauderdale DEA office and "Johnson Aviation". Unless a clear connection can be formed, I don't think this should exist. Hog Farm Talk 04:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Commment - perhaps the intention was to add this as a front company for surveillance aircraft used by the agency? I only mention this because there is similar content on the US Marshals Service page. Just a thought. Obviously more info (sourced) would be needed, or this should be deleted. - wolf 05:00, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Without a mention in the article, this redirect is at best confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Meeting on Vjun[edit]

  • Meeting on Vjun → Yoda#Literature  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

While there are a few scattered mentions of Vjun on enwiki that my attempts at using the search function turns up, none are in the current target, and all are about a castle, not a meeting. Doesn't seem useful. Hog Farm Talk 02:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as not mentioned in any noticeable detail, otherwise Vjun (not Meeting on Vjun) could redirect to List of Star Wars planets and moons. Possibly a title for a scenario / level in a Star Wars video game, but such details are usually gamecruft if they aren't something notable like the cow level. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:42, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

April 29[edit]

Pseudoscience (physics)[edit]

  • Pseudoscience (physics) → Pseudoscience  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Procedural nomination from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pseudoscience (physics). ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • @LaundryPizza03: Notifying the nominator... ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}}; and there's page history. Narky Blert (talk) 14:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. An oxymoron thus WP:RFD#D5 "The redirect makes no sense". O, my ears and whiskers! 94.21.10.117 (talk) 00:55, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore and send back to AfD. I think the merits of the topic and the original WP:BLAR should be considered at AfD, rather than RfD looking at it as a redirect. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • We should at least consider List of topics characterized as pseudoscience#Physics. I'm hesitant to advocate that outright since the section only has three topics listed, but if we interpret the search term as "pseudoscience in physics", which is reasonable, it seems like the most logical target available. --BDD (talk) 15:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 20:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore article and send to AfD if desired, per Mdewman6 - The title probably should be "Pseudophysics" rather than this, but in any case, the concept does at least exist, eg [9]. A7V2 (talk) 02:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
The original article was at Pseudophysics but boldly moved to the current title, then a requested move discussion had weak consensus against moving it back and the closer felt a separate discussion was in order. The AfD discussion seemed to hint against keeping the article in its current form, but just sent it to RfD instead of reaching consensus on the blank and redirect and the best redirect target because the blank and redirect had already been boldly done. This just hasn't had a full discussion in the right venue. Mdewman6 (talk) 16:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore article and send to AfD (restore to Revision as of 11:46, 23 December 2020). This is not a straightforward redirect and a reformatted approach to AfD would gather a wider audience. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Gower[edit]

  • Andrew Gower → Jagex  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I think it's maybe not very helpful to automatically redirect to the Jagex article when searching Wikipedia for Andrew Gower, as there are several people with that name, including British actor Andrew Gower. Maybe a disambiguation page would be more helpful? Minkerbelle (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete and move Andrew Gower (actor) to that name. The actor is the only exact name match. There already is a disambiguation page that should become a headnote on actor Gower's article. IceWelder [✉] 19:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move Andrew Gower (actor) to Andrew Gower as primary topic, per IceWelder. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Bethel TV[edit]

  • Bethel TV → Bethel Church  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A link to a DAB page with no relevant entry; it relates to Television in Ethiopia. Delete, to encourage article creation if justified. Narky Blert (talk) 14:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:28, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to create a redlink, consistent with other redlinks at Television in Ethiopia. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete It was probably intended to redirect to Bethel Church (Redding, California), but is not mentioned there. There is also a Bethel TV in Puerto Rico. Peter James (talk) 17:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Flying Flowers[edit]

  • Flying Flowers → Artificial flower  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete per WP:RFD#D2, not mentioned at target. It is used in Stanley Gibbons, so this impedes a searchm but since there is hardly any information there, delete to encourage creation of the article. Flying flower, Flying Flower and Flying flowers are all red. 94.21.10.117 (talk) 13:30, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:25, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Stanley Gibbons, where there is substantive information about the company. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:33, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Community gateway[edit]

  • Community gateway → Wikipedia:Community portal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A quick web search returned no Wikipedia-related results. There seem to be multiple organisations by this name, and even Wikipedia mentions the word combination in an unrealted sense. Confusing/misleading WP:XNR. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
12:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete (creator); not sure what I was thinking when I created this (though it is a {{R from avoided double redirect}} for Wikipedia:Community gateway), as it does not meet the standard required by cross-namespace redirects. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete this ambiguous cross-namespace redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Gayism[edit]

  • Gayism → LGBT social movements  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Gayist → LGBT social movements  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Term is contentious and goes against MOS:NEO; IMO we'd be better off just not having it at all. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 10:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment I'm adding Gayist to the nomination for the same reason as above. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

BioGamer Girl Magazine[edit]

  • BioGamer Girl Magazine → List of video game magazines  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not listed in the targeted article. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 10:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    12:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Anne Productions[edit]

  • Anne Productions → Harry Kleiner  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target, no obviously related results in a Google Scholar and internet search, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Based on the only source I've found, Turner Classic Movies,[10] (archive.org link as the original is not available in the UK), Anne Productions was a company set up by Hecht-Hill-Lancaster specifically for Cry Tough (film) and so if it were to redirect anywhere it should be one of those two but it isn't mentioned in either location. Harry Kleiner wrote Cry Tough, and so it's not impossible that he had some involvement with Anne Productions but if he did I've been unable to verify it. Thryduulf (talk) 23:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget to Anne of Green Gables: The Musical, which contains a list of productions of the play which is very commonly referred to by the shorthand "Anne". Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 10:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete per Thryduulf. Cry Tough (film) could have been a target, but as there is no mention there (didn't find any on Imdb either), retarget is not an option. Jay (talk) 12:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Svea Rike[edit]

  • Svea Rike → Europa Universalis: Crown of the North  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Svea Rike II → Europa Universalis: Crown of the North  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete or change scope of target.

The target article concerns the game also known as Svea Rike III, which is an entirely different game from Svea Rike I and II. It is therefore not a good redirect target for these two redirects. Either these redirects should be deleted, or the target article should be renamed and broadened in scope to include the entire Svea Rike series instead of only its third instalment. Rua (mew) 08:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

State Leader of Myanmar[edit]

  • State Leader of Myanmar → Chairman of the State Administration Council  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete. This was never a term that appeared in any sources AFAICT, and was fabricated by an editor who is now indefinitely blocked for fabricating content, among other things. So, it's not a useful search term. And even if it was, it's not clear that the current target is appropriate, as it could just as easily be targeted to President of Myanmar. ― Tartan357 Talk 23:30, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment this seems like a plausible search term for someone looking for the head of state of Myanmar. If that link were blue I'd say this should point there or target the same article, as it isn't I'm tempted by a retarget to President of Myanmar which is the position that (under various titles) has been head of state since 1948 (anyone looking for earlier than that will unlikely be using "Myanmar"). Thryduulf (talk) 03:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
What do we do in cases where the redirect is deemed a useful search term but the appropriate target is unclear? ― Tartan357 Talk 04:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
That depends, if there is no primary topic we frequently either convert it to a disambiguation page, set index or list or retarget it to another page that performs the same function. If there is a primary topic, and we have an article about that, then we'll retarget it there and add a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate (or make a disambiguation page at a title like head of state of Myanmar and point this at it) including Chairman of the State Administration Council, President of Myanmar, State Counsellor of Myanmar and Prime Minister of Myanmar all of which are various offices who are head of state/government. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 17:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Tanten[edit]

  • Tanten → Berlingske  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Berlingske is known by the nickname Tanten i Pilestræde, but doesn't seem to be commonly known as Tanten. Tanten is Danish, Swedish and Norwegian for "aunt", so the very occasional hits this gets are probably not particularly likely to be by people looking for the newspaper. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:17, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to Aunt: as a redir from Scandinavian languages to English. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 17:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Does not seem to be in line with WP:RLOTE. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 18:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Maria Gripe as that's a book she wrote, which received an adaptation. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete or possibly retarget to Maria Gripe.  It is not quite correct that Tanten is Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish for "aunt".

As for the novel by Gripe, that redirect would make more sense but it is not one of Gripe's better-known works. Not sure what "received an adaptation" refers to – it was recorded for radio (but not dramatised) but that was all rather a long time ago. (I see that the Wikipedia article about Maria Gripe has some incorrect information about it.) --bonadea contributions talk 20:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I was going by Wiktionary, which lists it as the definite singular of the Danish tante, but I've no idea how frequently that's used; either way, the additional information is appreciated. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 09:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/From the editor[edit]

  • Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/From the editor → Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-01-17/From the editor  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete; refers to more articles than simply this one. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:13, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

MJ (singer)[edit]

  • MJ (singer) → Michael Jackson  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unlikely search term. As the stats show, this usually doesn't get any hits, and it's not hard to see why - who would type in "MJ" and then disambiguate it if they didn't know how to get to Michael Jackson's article? I wouldn't really mind, though, except MJ (South Korean singer) is an actual page with hundreds of views a day. Thus, there's really no benefit to having this incomplete DAB hanging around. Nohomersryan (talk) 04:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Note this wasn't properly tagged. I tagged it at 08:09, 30 April 2021. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, then move the South Korean singer to MJ (singer) leaving a hatnote to Michael Jackson. As an American, if I saw "MJ (singer)" my first thought would be Michael Jackson, but that doesn't supersede a notable singer who actually has that stage name. The hatnote should clear up any confusion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    An WP:RM would be needed for the South Korean singer (though my !vote below might apply to that case also)—Bagumba (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to MJ#People. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to MJ#People. Titles with parenthetical disambiguation generally should not still be ambiguous.—Bagumba (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete and create RM for the South Korean singer per AllegedlyHuman. Vaticidalprophet 13:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move MJ (South Korean singer) to this title and hatnote Michael Jackson. There is no other singer primarily mononymously know as "MJ". BD2412 T 15:47, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move per BD2412. MB 14:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete and move MJ (South Korean singer) to this title. It's nearly impossible for people to intentionally type "MJ (singer)" in the search box in attempt to find the article about Michael Jackson. Bluesatellite (talk) 07:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Abolish Wales/Abolish Scotland[edit]

  • Abolish Wales → Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Abolish Scotland → Abolish the Scottish Parliament Party  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete as POINTY redirects to political parties currently in elections; these seem to have been created to allow the parties to be linked to under POV attack links. Timrollpickering (talk) 20:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete because of it being strange portions of a name (c.f. my essay, WP:FRIED) and because of its attack nature. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 21:10, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep both - "Abolish" is a common shorthand for national iterations of the "Abolish the [national legislature] Party", in the same way that "Tory" is shorthand for the Conservative Party, and how "GOP" is shorthand for the Republican Party. These are both plausible shorthand synonyms. WP:RNEUTRAL applies to the nominator's rationale - if these redirects are being used inappropriately that's not an issue with the title but with the editors who are abusing it. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 11:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep both per Ivanvector. "Abolish Scotland" is mentioned in the article, and "Abolish" is mentioned as a shorthand name of the Welsh party so "Abolish Wales" seems to also be a plausible search term since it is the "Abolish" party in Wales. A7V2 (talk) 04:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - Neither party uses these to describe themselves (the Scottish party actually leans more torwards 'Abolish Holyrood'), and the only reason hits appear when they're Googled is either due to Wikipedia or to news articles having the words 'abolish' and 'Scotland/Wales' in them.
The argument that they are mentioned in the articles is weak - there is nothing there to verify that these are shortenings that are found in the real world. Plus, with the argument about the Tories and the GOP (both long-established mainstream political forces), there is a huge usage of those shortenings. The Abolish the Welsh Assembly Party was formed in 2015 and Abolish the Scottish Parliament Party in 2020, so there hasn't been a great deal of time for a single solid abbreviation of either to come about.
On another point, these parties are not affiliated with one another; such similar redirects make it seem like they are national branches of the same party (see Scottish and Welsh Conservatives).
My general feeling is that while these redirects could be plausible, the fact is that neither of the abbreviations are actually used anywhere (perhaps a little WP:TOOSOON). Gazamp (talk) 12:00, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
I can see your point, but it's not necessarily a question of what they officially call themselves, and more about what people will search for; regardless of whether or not its an official abbreviation, people will think it's called "Abolish" (perhaps wrongfully so)--that's just how language works. I think a redirect would help clear up those readers' confusion or something. Ayvind-Bjarnason (talk) 20:19, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:GRAPE[edit]

  • Wikipedia:GRAPE → Wikipedia:Grapefruit  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Possibly confusing due to WP:GRAPES redirecting to Wikipedia:Sour grapes. Not sure whether hatnoting or retargeting is more appropriate. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Keep and Hatnote both targets. Jay (talk) 12:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Deceased inventor[edit]

  • Deceased inventor → Inventor (patent)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This just strikes me as very unlikely search term. No incoming links at all, so it isn't used anywhere. Not mentioned in target article, and if someone was searching this, it is not a safe assumption that they were curious specifically about patent law. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  • If anything I think List of inventors would make more sense since I believe it’s more likely thy someone using this as a search term is looking for a list of dead inventors and since the list does mentioned the date of birth and death (if applicable) the list could be used in that way. At the very least it makes more sense than the current target.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 21:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to List of inventors per IP (is this our regular IP friend gone dynamic or is it a new one? I haven't been around here for a few days). Not a particularly strong retarget, but this does seem like something people could reasonably search, and the proposed location is much more intuitive. Vaticidalprophet 06:00, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: The target article contains a discussion of the legal requirements for handling a patent application when an inventor is deceased. So the redirect makes more sense than it might appear. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok so not completely irrelevant but I’m still confident that someone looking up patent requirements wouldn’t use deceased inventor as their search term.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 06:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, both the current target and the suggested redirect target seem less than helpful. signed, Rosguill talk 20:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep Although there is not much at the current target there is a mention and reference. Without the plural unlikely that this would be expected to redirect to a list. Peter James (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Proto gaelic[edit]

  • Proto gaelic → Primitive Irish  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

"Proto-gaelic" doesn't appear to be the proper name of any language, reconstructed or otherwise. The closest equivalent as far as I can tell is Proto-Celtic language, which is the constructed predecessor of the Celtic language family, which the Gaelic (Goidelic) belongs to. I would suggest redirecting to there unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Proto-Celtic per nom. 053pvr (talk) 02:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as is. Proto-Gaelic would be the ancestor of all the Gaelic languages, not all the Celtic languages. The Gaelic languages are also known as the Goidelic languages, so Proto-Gaelic is equivalent to Proto-Goidelic. We don't have an article on the Proto-Goidelic language, but the closest thing to it is in fact Primitive Irish, the oldest attested Goidelic language. So while Proto-Goidelic (a reconstructed language) is not exactly identical to Primitive Irish (an attested language), Primitive Irish does seem to be the best available redirect target. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:17, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Mahagaja, 053pvr Rosguill, I think the best solution is to redirect to just either Old Gaelic or Goidelic_languages#History_and_range as they both mention the split in Proto-celtic in Gaelic. The issue with redirecting to just Proto-Celtic is the Celtic families have two separate extant branches (extinct languages includes Gaulish), Brittonic and Gaelic. Proto-Celtic separated into Proto-Gaelic (Almost like Old Gaelic) which would latter birth Irish language, Scottish Gaelic and the Manx language and proto-Brittonic which would later evolve into Welsh, Cornish, Breton and Cumbric language. The two are both Celtic but also different and this is very important. As it's why the Scottish language has more in common with Irish then say the Welsh language and vice versa. So redirecting it to just Proto-Celtic language wouldn't be the full story as they are two separate branches of just Celtic, it's like how French and Romanian are both Romance languages but French has more in common with Spanish then Romanian because they share a more common ancestor language. Hope I made my point clear and thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: Old Gaelic itself is a redirect to Old Irish, which is just a later stage in the development of the Goidelic languages than Primitive Irish. Primitive Irish is closer to Proto-Goidelic than Old Irish is, so why not redirect to Primitive Irish? —Mahāgaja · talk 06:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    Mahagaja That actually sounds like a better idea my thought process was: "Old Irish is thus forebear to Modern Irish, Manx, and Scottish Gaelic." however Primitive Irish would still be better as it came sooner. Des Vallee (talk) 17:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: And Primitive Irish is where proto gaelic already redirects – and you were the one who made that redirect in the first place! —Mahāgaja · talk 18:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    Mahagaja Yea I agree it is a better redirect altogether. Des Vallee (talk) 18:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm not really swayed by the arguments for Primitive Irish, as "proto-" AFAIK exclusively refers to reconstructions of extinct languages (see Proto-language). If Proto-Celtic isn't a suitable target, the redirect should just be deleted, rather than potentially misleading readers into believing that Primitive Irish is a proto-language. signed, Rosguill talk 18:13, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Once they arrive at Primitive Irish, I doubt anyone will long be misled into thinking it's a reconstructed language, but I agree that deletion is better than redirecting it to Proto-Celtic language. —Mahāgaja · talk 16:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Mahagaja, won't it be best to add a short section on the protolanguage at Goidelic languages and retarget there? – Uanfala (talk) 22:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Goidelic_languages#History_and_range pretty much already does that describing how the Goidelic languages began becoming distinct towards Proto-Celtic. If we can't have consensus for primitive Irish which is the partly the basis for modern Scottish, Manx and Irish. The hyperlink of Goidelic languages is by far the best redirect, I don't think it should be deleted as there are many possible links to redirect it to. Des Vallee (talk) 06:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Goidelic languages#History and range is also a good possibility. However, the exact link Proto gaelic with no hyphen and with a lower-case "g" is unlikely to be searched for. If we have redirects for this concept, they should be Proto-Gaelic and Proto-Goidelic. —Mahāgaja · talk 07:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Oh yes, if the redirect is kept, then the correct forms will need to be created too. – Uanfala (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't think we can take it for granted that readers who follow the redirect and land on Primitive Irish will automatically know what's going on. Not everybody knows what a protolanguage is. And I'm feeling a bit confused myself: I would normally assume that the reconstructed protolanguage should predate Primitive Irish, but if this reconstruction proceeds from the better attested languages, doesn't it stand a chance of actually representing a later stage than Primitive Irish? Similarly if the redirect is retargeted: by reading Goidelic languages#History and range I can get some sort of idea about Proto-Gaelic, but I have no way of knowing if this idea is correct. I guess any target will work, provided it's got some sort of mention of the protolanguage, which at least positions it with respect to the article's topic. – Uanfala (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Uanfala, Mahagaja, Rosguill I added a section of Proto-Gailic "Proto-Goidelic is the proposed proto-language for all branches of Goidelic, it is most commonly thought to have originated from either northern Ireland or western Scotland. It is the predecessor which then began to separate into separate Irish, Scottish, Manx languages." this is the best overall redirect, it would be best to have an article specifically about proto-Gaelic however. Thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: It's not accurate to say that Proto-Goidelic split into separate Irish, Scottish Gaelic and Manx languages; that split didn't happen until the era of Middle Irish. Proto-Goidelic is the sister language to Proto-Brythonic; it developed after Proto-Insular Celtic split into Brythonic and Goidelic branches and evolved into Primitive Irish. I don't think there's enough material on Proto-Goidelic to warrant an article. Historical linguists tend to talk about how Old Irish (and Primitive Irish) developed from Proto-Celtic; as far as I know, no one has ever bothered to reconstruct the intermediate Proto-Goidelic stage. —Mahāgaja · talk 20:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Mahagaja: Proto-Goidelic does have enough information for an article and has had words and pronunciation have been reconstructed. As well as extensive research on the split between Gaelic and Brittonic. It can be proved using scholarly sources. You are correct on the languages and I have changed it to Gaelic began to split into different dialects and then later forming separate "languages" during Middle Irish or perhaps there is some better wording.
There is extensive study on Proto-Goidelic:
THE PROSODIC STRUCTURE OF IRISH, SCOTS GAELIC, AND MANX, Dissertation Presented to the Faculty of the Graduate School of Cornell University in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of Doctor of Philosophy by Antony Dubach GreenMay 1997
Page 28, section 67:
"Shortening of unstressed long vowels in Proto-Goidelic It is unknown where stress fell in Proto-Celtic, but Schrijver (1995, 16 ff.) has argued that in Proto-Insular Celtic (PIC), stress regularly fell on the initial syllable of the word. This pattern continued in the Goidelic branch of Insular Celtic through Old Irish and into most modern Goidelic dialects, with notable exceptions in Manx and the Irish of Munster and East Mayo,as we shall see. 3By the time Old Irish is attested, unstressed vowels (i.e. those not inthe initial syllable) that were long in Proto-Insular Celtic had been short-ened in accordance with the WSP, into Proto-Gaelic (Thurneysen 1946, 31)."
See page 29 for a reconstruction of a words of Proto-Goidelic, section 69.
See page 32 for more information on Proto-Goidelic section 74.
"This shortening may be explained by proposing that Ulster has re-stored the ranking WSP, ALL-FT-L ≫ ::MAX(μ) that was current early in Proto-Goidelic. This ranking means that the optimal candidate is the one in which an unstressed long vowel is shortened.(34)/kal′i:n′/WSP ALL-FT-LMAX(μ)(.k·.l′i:n′.)* !-> (.k·.l′in′.)*.ka(.l′Ì:n′.)σ. This is a clear example of the Promotion of the Unmarked: WSP was pro-moted to undominated position, and MAX(μ) was demoted so that one candidate could surface as optimal in Proto-Gaelic. What the speakers did, in effect, was apply the contra-position of the Weight-to-Stress Principle, ì If unstressed, then light, î was added to their language showing a divergence in proto-celtic."
For more information see Journal of Celtic language learning The consonantal inventory of proto-Goidelic and proto-Brittonic under Laryngeal Realism, Interarticulatory timing and Celtic mutations. Or Back Into the Fields and Into the Woods: Old Irish íath'land, field'and fíad'wild; deer; uncultivated land'revisited "There are even three different reasonable strategies available in order to to account for the Proto-Celtic or at least Proto-Goidelic *-u- instead of expected *-wo, there may have been a Proto-Goidelic sound change *-wo- > *-u- in word-final syllables."
Or The substratum in Insular Celtic page 161 (Intro), page 169 (section 161) .
Page 170 (section 161)
"One could conceive, therefore, that an imaginary temporal exten-sion of the evolution of Continental Celtic languages could theoretically yield us a stage not unlike Insular,and, vice versa, that the Continental data could be of significant use wherever a reconstruction of Proto-Brittonic or Proto-Goidelic forms is attempted. More-over, the morphophonemic mutations mentioned by Koch are, at least in Old Irish, plausibly explicable through the (later) apocoped ending of the first word in a two-unit syntagma, and, in a way, it is precisely the data from Gaulish that support this solution. Just a single example will suffice: the nasalized Anlaut after possessive plural pronouns allows us to reconstruct the deleted Auslaut with -m/-n-:12"
See end of page 170, page 172 (section 164), for more information.
As well as mentioning in extensive detail when Brittonic and Goidelic began separating. This is just the absolute tip of the iceberg of Proto-Goidelic and Proto-Brittonic and there is much, much more sources detailing it. Des Vallee (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@Des Vallee: Great! If you want to start an article on the Proto-Goidelic language based on sources like those, go ahead! —Mahāgaja · talk 07:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
@Mahagaja: Yea of course, when I get the time -_-, I have a bad habit of creating drafts and not finishing them but I will give it a shot with a draft, which knowing me I will get half way through and not finish it. Des Vallee (talk) 02:37, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • I think it should be redirected to Proto-Goidelic as the hyperlink already exists which is just a section discussing proto-Goidelic on the Goidelic languages. Previously this section didn't exist now it's obvious to redirect there and I think we can agree it's the best redirect. Des Vallee (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

April 28[edit]

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Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn/moot

Digital Euro[edit]

  • Digital euro → Central_bank_digital_currency#History  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Should be deleted because the target link doesn't even include an entire section about the source title, and per WP:R#DELETE#1 the term could also refer to Euro, the user would be better of just being sent to the search results and making a choice, until a proper section or article is written about the digital euro (which would most likely be at Euro#Digital Euro). Pieceofmetalwork (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. There is no mention of digital in Euro, so a search resulting in Euro would not have helped. There is no requirement for the target to have an entire section on the subject. Delete can happen if the target article contains virtually no information on the subject, and in this case the target article has good info. Jay (talk) 19:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Of the mentions in enwiki of "digital euro", the most substantive content is at Central bank digital currency. Of course, the redirect could be retargeted in future if the Euro article is expanded. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:34, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Total Advance[edit]

  • Total Advance → Paragon Publishing  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in the targeted article. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 21:56, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Frances Boyle[edit]

  • Frances Boyle → Francis Boyle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Redirect from a misspelling of a person's name, with no indication in the target article that this spelling has any documented use in reference to that person. The first issue here is a gender one: Francis with an i is a male name, while Frances with an e is a female one, and there's no particular evidence that people commonly get the spellings mixed up by referring to men as "Frances" or to women as "Francis". And secondly, there's an award-nominated and potentially WP:AUTHOR-passing Canadian writer named Frances Boyle, who absolutely should not be pushed down to a disambiguated title just because of a misspelling of somebody else's name. We do not, for the record, have any established practice of Frances→Francis or Francis→Frances redirects for every person with one name or the other, and I can't find any credible reason why this one should need special treatment. Bearcat (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • This looks to me like a more pressing reason to write the article than take the redirect to RfD per se. (It looks from Google that Frances Boyle can also refer to an oncology professor who quick-glance might pass NPROF.) I'm inclined to delete the redirect, as it clogs up the Google results for both Ms Boyles pending their article...ification, though it looks there's a possibility the name will be a disambig anyway. Vaticidalprophet 22:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
I'd just like to stress that the award she was nominated for just came roaring back from an extended hiatus, with several years worth of delayed shortlist and winner announcements literally all thrown at the wall within the last 14 days. In other words, I've got 90 redlinked writers (including several of the winners) to sort out whether I can find enough sources to start something, another 90 or so bluelinked writers who need to have the award nominations or wins added to their articles, and no pressing reason to prioritize Frances Boyle above everybody else. So should she have an article, yeah, probably. Can I guarantee that I'll get to it today, or even within the week before an RFD discussion would conclude, no. So it's much better to get the redirect dealt with in the interim than to just let it sit. Bearcat (talk) 00:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Whilst I would agree that a misspelling is plausible, the nom has presented a good case that this redirect may be confusing. If an article is written I'd encourage a {{distinguish}} hatnote. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:38, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Dutty dutty love[edit]

  • Dutty dutty love → I'm Still in Love with You (Sean Paul song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Song lyric in target, but also in at least "Letting Go (Dutty Love)", which is what Google shows me when I search the term. May be valid search term, but suggest deletion as there are no incoming links, the page has few views, and the term is ambiguous. If kept, it should be disambiguated with at least a hatnote. Ost (talk) 21:27, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as ambiguous and may lead to confusion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Olympic Park Stadium[edit]

  • Olympic Park Stadium → Olympic Park  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne) was disambiguated for reasons I don't completely understand (are there other Olympic Park Stadiums?). I don't see any discussion regarding the move, and I don't know how to boldly undo a move and redirect, so I'm bringing it to RfD. SportingFlyer T·C 21:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: Unnecessary RFD, unless you are pre-committed to opposing and fighting. You could have asked the editor who moved what was at "Olympic Park Stadium" to "Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne)", and who has been disambiguating usage of the term. Yes there are others. --Doncram (talk) 21:25, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: User:SportingFlyer likely did not understand that the term "Olympic Park Stadium" is being disambiguated at a combo dab page, Olympic Park (disambiguation). When they opened this RFD, the redirect now at "Olympic Park Stadium" temporarily, mistakenly went to "Olympic Park", a general term, not a disambiguation page. The one in Melbourne, by the way, has been demolished. The one in Tokyo (wikipedia article Komazawa Olympic Park Stadium) continues, and so do other stadiums in Olympic Parks which are naturally referred to as "Olympic Park Stadium". At RFD I do not know if the protocol is like at AFD, where a nominator can withdraw an item. If possible, SportingFlyer, could you withdraw this? I'll check back late tonight probably. --Doncram (talk) 21:55, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • It's an improper disambiguation, as "Olympic Park Stadium" is different from "Olympic Park." I'm trying to BRD this, since no discussion occurred, the onus should be on you to establish the disambiguation. SportingFlyer T·C 10:04, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I know what wp:BRD is, but I don't understand what you steps you'd mean to take in "I'm trying to BRD this". Opening an RFD is nothing like that. I'm almost half way through visiting 500-600 inbound wikilinks to Olympic Park Stadium, changing most of them to link to Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne). If you consider my actions "Bold", maybe you should be reverting each of those and opening discussions at each of their pages? Please don't do that though. The correct forum for your view would have been a) talk to the editor (me) whose actions you question to work out some solution if possible, and then if that doesn't lead to clarification/solution, then b) open an RFC or other proceeding of some sort, which would have been a wp:RM. --Doncram (talk) 12:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Close: This can/should be CLOSED at least because wp:RFD is not the right forum. Someone could open a "controversial"-type wp:RM about whether "Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne)" should be moved back to "Olympic Park Stadium" or to some other name. Given the current or future article names, of course any redirects should go to wherever they should go to, there's nothing to discuss at RFD. And, this RFD is based on a misunderstanding, when the "Olympic Park Stadium" redirect in fact pointed to the wrong place, which was since fixed. --Doncram (talk) 06:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: There are only two Olympic Park Stadium's, the one in Melbourne - which I would argue is the WP:Primary topic and should be located at this page - and the one in Tokyo which has a natural disambiguation anyway. In any case, the redirect is directed to the wrong page. Olympic Park Stadium clearly refers to the stadium and not the Olympic Park so redirecting it to Olympic Park is misleading. For the same reason, it would be better to disambiguate at Olympic Stadium (disambiguation) rather than Olympic Park (disambiguation). Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 08:03, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig. My searches indicate that London Stadium is the overwhelming primary topic for the search term "Olympic Park Stadium" -Wikipedia on google, with all-but 8 of the results on the first six pages of results. The other stadiums in the order they appeared and with the number of hits they got were: Daqing Olympic Park Stadium (1), Stadium Australia (3), Seoul Olympic Stadium (2) and Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne) (2). I see similar results in a private window (again London is the overwhelming primary topic). I repeated the search using DuckDuckGo on Tor (with a German exit node), there was very clearly no primary topic here with results for stadiums in (in order) Melbourne, London, Munich, Beijing, Daqing, Yiyang, Seoul and Tokyo on the first four pages. Melbourne, London and Beijing were all about equally represented in terms of absolute number of hits with Seoul not far behind. Thryduulf (talk) 13:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I don't think that's correct: a similar search I performed shows that the search engines tend to drop the order of words, for instance the three London results I checked did not include the specific phrase "Olympic Park Stadium." As it stands, the phrase Olympic Park Stadium has a clear primary topic. SportingFlyer T·C 14:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Your findings differ from mine - when searching for the exact phrase in quotes (not just the three words) the significant majority included the exact phrase. In the case of the London stadium, the most common phrasing is "Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park Stadium", but sometimes just "Olympic Park Stadium" (especially on subsequent uses) is also common. Whatever, it doesn't matter though because it is clear that whatever the official names are, there is no single primary topic for what people are searching for when searching for this phrase because the intended target depends strongly on the location of the person searching and context of the search. Thryduulf (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
        • The only results I see which call it the "Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park Stadium" are a couple from 2014. The others call it the "Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park stadium" (note the lowercase s, which refers to the stadium in the park, not the proper name of the stadium.) "Olympic Park Stadium" "Melbourne" brings up significantly more hits than any other of the cities you listed with the exception of Tokyo and Sydney, but nobody's thinking of redirecting Komazawa Olympic Park Stadium, and it's clear from the Sydney searches that it's not a clear name (many results list the Melbourne stadium, and "Olympic Park. Stadium Australia" is also common. I strongly disagree that search results show this isn't the primary topic at the title. SportingFlyer T·C 14:53, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
          Why on earth would we redirect Olympic Park Stadium and Olympic Park stadium to different targets? Given that we clearly wouldn't, we need to work out which is the topic that most people will be searching for given either capitalisation and the search results could not be clearer that there is no primary topic. What people are searching for when adding qualifiers to the search term is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 15:01, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
          • We wouldn't. My point is "Olympic Park Stadium" refers only to the Melbourne stadium as its official name. "Olympic Park stadium" refers to a stadium in any Olympic park. What's more indicative is that a scholar search brings up mostly the Melbourne stadium. SportingFlyer T·C 17:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
            My point is that the official name is mostly irrelevant, what scholarly sources in isolation do is mostly irrelevant. What we are dealing with here is what article most people looking for "Olympic Park Stadium" in any capitalisation on Wikipedia will be expecting to find. All the evidence we have is that there is no single answer to that question - for someone in Australia it's probably Melbourne, in the UK it's probably London, in South Korea it's probably Seoul, if they're interested in a specific Olympics then it'll most likely be the stadium in that city's Olympic park. Together this means that there is no primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 19:32, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
            • "Olympic Park Stadium" is actually a highly specific search term, though. There's only one "Olympic Park Stadium." Google Trends doesn't pick up on it. The article receives 20-40 views a day. I don't have any issue with a common dab page, but there's clearly a primary topic here. SportingFlyer T·C 20:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
              That there is only one thing that people are searching for when entering "Olympic Park Stadium" into a search engine is contradicted by every bit of evidence I've seen. Thryduulf (talk) 00:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
              We're not going to agree, but I'm really disappointed in your edit summary saying every literally every piece of evidence points to me being wrong. I'm not wrong. There's one and only one "Olympic Park Stadium" (even if it's not extant anymore.) Yes, there are lots of other stadiums with similar titles, and we can include a link in the article to those topics, but this is not a case where there's several different topics with the same title that need to be disambiguated. SportingFlyer T·C 00:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
              There might only be one stadium with that exact name as it's official name, but as I keep pointing out that is not relevant. What matters is whether that stadium is the primary topic for the name, and literally every bit of evidence shows that it is not which is what I meant in my edit summary. Thryduulf (talk) 00:47, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
              What, the fact your Google search brings up other hits even though Melbourne brings up several times more hits than any of the other cities? It's been the primary topic for the name since 2006. The only reason it was moved at all, as Doncram notes, is because the name occasionally gets shortened, not because of any likelihood of confusion we somehow stumbled upon 15 years later. SportingFlyer T·C 01:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
              Except the Google searches bring up more hits for places other than Melbourne than they do for Melbourne - in the case of my default search there were about 20 non-Melbourne results (mostly London) for every 1 related to Melbourne. I haven't looked before now, but I would be amazed if it has actually been the primary topic at any point even though it has been located at the primary title. The reason it was moved is because it is not the primary topic - primary topics do not care about official names or even correct names, they care about what topic most people are looking for when they enter that specific string into a search engine. Thryduulf (talk) 01:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: There certainly is no primary topic. I'm not opposed to having a combo dab page for "Olympic Stadium" and "Olympic Park Stadium". The reason I focused upon the Olympic Park (disambiguation) is that the common usage in Wikipedia was/is that about 20% of the 500-600 links intended to go to the Melbourne stadium article are from the pipelinked phrase "Olympic Park", and 80% are pipelinked as "Olympic Park Stadium". In Melbourne at least, there is apparently no distinction: the stadium is the park is the stadium. I dunno, at other places perhaps there is a difference between an "Olympic Park" vs. an "Olympic Park Stadium" (or "Olympic Stadium"). --Doncram (talk) 12:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
    In London the "Olympic Stadium" and "Olympic Park Stadium" are the same thing: London Stadium. "Olympic Park" means Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park in which the Olympic Stadium, Aquatics Centre, Velodrome and other venues are situated. Thryduulf (talk) 15:20, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
      • It looks to me that all should be covered in one combo dab page, Olympic Park (disambiguation), as it has been developing, with Olympic Park stadia and Olympic stadia as subitems under larger Olympic Parks in some cases.
      • About usage for Melbourne, "Olympic Park" is used very often in Wikipedia to refer to the stadium (i.e. it's what shows in a piped link to the Melbourne stadium article), especially after the first usage in an article. Interestingly, the article now at Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne) carefully explains that the stadium is within an "Olympic Park" which links to Melbourne Sports and Entertainment Precinct. An article which explains the precinct consists/consisted of Olympic Park Stadium (Melbourne) and two other parts. I will put into the dab that "Olympic Park" might mean the larger area Melbourne Sports and Entertainment Precinct or just the stadium once within it.
      • So, okay, the right process is to have a merger discussion, it's not for RFD to say. Please consider participating at Talk:Olympic Park (disambiguation)#Merger proposal. --Doncram (talk) 18:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
        • By the way, Thryduulf, should the link to ambiguous "Olympic Park Stadium" in article Charlie Twissell go to some facility in London? For most other inbound links I can confirm that the Melbourne stadium is meant, but this one looks different. Also by the way, there are a lot of inbound links (out of 283 total) to Olympic Park article where the Melbourne stadium/park seems to have been meant. Outside scope of what I've been trying to do so far. --Doncram (talk) 19:55, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
          @Doncram: A match in 1956 was definitely not played in a stadium built for the 2012 Olympics. Association football at the 1956 Summer Olympics#First round lists the venue as the Melbourne Cricket Ground but without a source. This source [11], whose reliability I don't know, gives the venue as "Olympic Park Stadium" it doesn't specify which Olympic Park Stadium but as the match was played 5 days after one in a suburb of Melbourne it seems unlikely to be anywhere other than Melbourne. Thryduulf (talk) 20:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
          • A quick glance at The Age from 1956 shows that the newspapers used the term "Olympic Park" to refer to the stadium and "Main Stadium" to possibly refer to the 'G. Charlie Twissell should link to this article, Great Britain won 9-0 at Olympic Stadium that day [12]. SportingFlyer T·C 20:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
            • Good on ya, thanks! --Doncram (talk) 21:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. If there are "Olympic Park Stadiums" that are not listed at Olympic Park then they should be listed at Olympic Park (disambiguation). We should be careful, though, not to make Olympic Park (disambiguation) just a re-hash of the list already at Olympic Park, and I've cleaned it up to that effect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Ken McNeil[edit]

  • Ken McNeil → Kent McNeil  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Might qualify for WP:R3, but if I read the guideline correctly I should be bringing this here. Article was created under an incorrect name—the subject's name is Kent, not Ken, McNeil, and I don't know of any instance in which he's referred to by Ken sans T. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Redirect to Ken MacNeil as it can be a plausible misspelling. Less Unless (talk) 18:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

JLin[edit]

  • JLin → Jeremy Lin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete or retarget to Jlin. If it were "J. Lin", I suppose that would be different, but it's not really clear why it redirects here; Lin does not appear to go by this name commonly if at all, and it's not referenced in the article itself. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment it is an Americanism, from street culture. Various other celebs have this form of abbreviation, such as JLo. As bball is a common topic of American street culture, and at one point Jeremy Lin had a high profile in bball, it was used at that point in time. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 03:43, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as ambiguous and delete the related hatnotes at Jeremy Lin and Jlin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shhhnotsoloud (talk • contribs) 11:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as plausible search term - e.g. this and this. MB 23:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Re-target to Jerrilynn Patton alias Jlin. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, since he does use this branding and capitalization (e.g. [13] The former NBA guard has launched the Xtep JLin One, his first signature shoe to drop in Asia. (emphasis added)). Keep the hatnotes as necessary. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:02, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep per Patar Knight and MB. Thryduulf (talk) 15:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

The Magic Diner[edit]

  • The Magic Diner → Vogue (magazine)#Video channel  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • The Magic Diner Pt.II → Vogue (magazine)#Video channel  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete these are 2015 and 2018 short films that were originals commissioned by and shown on the Vogue channel so there is clearly a connection to the target. However, with no mention at the target this will not help anyone searching for information about them. The only mention I have found anywhere on Wikipedia is an entry in the list at Alicia Vikander#Filmography, but as that doesn't make a good target, especially as she has a co-star (Anna Wintour) in part 2 and most of the hits I'm finding on Google all seem to regard the director (Niclas Larsson) as at least equally significant to the film. Thryduulf (talk) 15:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Business Information Systems[edit]

  • Business Information Systems → Management information system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Business Information System → Management information system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

"Business Information System" is not mentioned at the target in plural, singular, capitalised or uncapitalised forms. Is there a better target, or should these redirects be deleted as ambiguous (with, for example, YTJ (Finnish government service))? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. It is a plausible search term for the subject of the article, so it is fine for the redirect to exist, even if it is not mentioned at the target. WP:HARMLESS. SCP-053 (talk) 02:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • SCP-053 I don't believe these are the same thing, I'm certainly not seeing them being used in an interchangeable way with a google search. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • The primary usage I seem to be getting when I search for these terms relates to the Bachelor of Business Information Systems degree, but I'm not sure that retargeting there would be appropriate. I'm leaning towards deletion. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Information system; there can be a hatnote linking to YTJ (Finnish government service). Peter James (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Independent Union (politcal party)[edit]

  • Independent Union (poltical party) → Independent Union (political party)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Independent Union (politcal party) → Independent Union (political party)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

WP:UNNATURAL spelling error in the disambiguation –MJL ‐Talk‐ 02:06, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep as...uh, creator, sort of (I 'made' the redirect during a page move at RM/TR, see Special:Permalink/1012783770). Not only does the typo in question clearly not fit the disambig errors defined at WP:UNNATURAL, but it was so natural the page was literally created at that title before I fixed it. This is not an 'error having no affinity for one title over another'; it's a typo of a word specifically appearing in the disambiguator. Any title identified enough with a page to be the one it's created at isn't going to fit UNNATURAL under most circumstances (i.e. except when a page was intentionally made at a bad title). Vaticidalprophet 02:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - Redirects are cheap. If it happened once, it could happen again. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:40, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Anti-Circumcision Movement[edit]

  • Anti-Circumcision Movement → Bodily integrity#Genital integrity  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Intactivism → Bodily integrity#Genital integrity  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Intactivist → Bodily integrity#Genital integrity  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Retarget all to Circumcision controversies § Anti-circumcision movement, which is more focused on the relevant topic(s). The current target mainly references advocacy orgs rather than reliable, third-party sources (the exceptions are already cited at Circumcision controversies), making these redirects seem largely promotional. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Compare Anti-circumcision, Intact advocacy, and Opposition to circumcision, which all redirect to Circumcision controversies. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 02:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Retarget all as suggested. Even if the Bodily integrity section weren't messy (and it is), my cursory search suggests that intactivism is mainly focused on circumcision on not bodily integrity overall. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:14, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Why are none of those their own articles? Seems like a pretty notable movement.★Trekker (talk) 19:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

True Forced Loneliness[edit]

  • True Forced Loneliness → Incel  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Seems to be a novel term not in real use as a synonym for "incel". Beeblebrox (talk) 00:36, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep I wouldn't call it a synonym, but it is a real, closely related community that certainly isn't notable enough for a standalone article. See this Huffington Post source. There is a brief mention of it at Incel already. A redirect seems appropriate to me. (Noting that I came here from the notification at Talk:Incel). GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Closely related concept without enough notability for an article. I hope that continues to be true; I truly hate that I know about this now. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

April 27[edit]

Candidates of the next Western Australian state election[edit]

  • Candidates of the next Western Australian state election → 2021 Western Australian state election  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused redirect with problematic "next" in it. This issue was previously discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 December 23#Next Alberta Liberal Party leadership election with the outcome of delete. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 20:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete, or redirect to 2025 Western Australian state election. Frickeg (talk) 21:21, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to 2025 Western Australian state election.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per above, which is where people using this highly plausible search term will find the most relevant information. Thryduulf (talk) 15:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

United States elections[edit]

  • 2024 United States elections → Elections in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • 2026 United States elections → Elections in the United States  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete. Not mentioned at target. ― Tartan357 Talk 20:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget 2024 to Template:2024 United States elections which functions as an index to whichever election the reader is looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 15:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete 2026 as there is no template or index page yet that I can find (2024 seems to be the latest year for which we currently have significant information about US elections). Thryduulf (talk) 15:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

UNC-R[edit]

  • UNC-R → North Carolina State University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The abbreviation "UNC-R" has never been a correct name for NC State, and the usage of "UNC-R" is mostly a derogatory reference from rival schools who would already know how to find the article on Wikipedia under the correct name. I even checked the creator's user page, it indicates that he went to UNC-CH, which is usually the source of unwarranted references to "UNC-R". 2600:1700:FDF1:1FC0:D83F:388:E5D5:D1A5 (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment the article states this was founded as the University of North Carolina facility in Raleigh as North Carolina College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts, so it would seem to be a viable search term. I don't see where the letters UNC-R become derogatory, as it seems to state what it was when it was founded. I don't seem any expletives in those letters, unless there is an expanded acronym that elides the swear words. You could tag it as a {{R from incorrect term}} -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 00:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete: As discussed in the article, NCSU was only referred to as the University of North Carolina at Raleigh between 1962 and 1963. That name was dropped due to on-campus fury. NCSU values its distinct history from other colleges in the UNC system. It's virtually impossible that anyone not already in the know about the tense history between NCSU and the UNC system would look for this college using that redirect. It's very likely that the editor that created it was being deliberately dismissive of NCSU and that any users searching for UNC-R are looking for a laugh. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 01:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The strong keep as a valid former name from 1962-1963. WP:NOTCENSORED, WP:IDONTLIKEIT -- just because people want to revise history to forget the past doesn't mean the past shouldn't exist. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 03:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
      • UPDATE retarget to the United Nations topic -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to United Nations Command–Rear, where it seems to be a less-common but officially-used acronym. Or perhaps disambiguate, although WP:DABACRONYM suggests that it would be a problem to include North Carolina State University if the acronym UNC-R isn't mentioned in the article. (And then the question becomes whether it is verifiable / ought to be mentioned in the article, which I'm not sure about.) Adumbrativus (talk) 07:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete or Retarget - Unlikely search term. Further, I'd say, it is an inappropriate term even with {{R from incorrect term}}. Use of "UNC-R" is meant to be a "put down" as it is intended to be is to remove the distinctiveness of NCSU name, making it one of the many "UNC at City". Despite some brief flirtation with rebranding 60 years ago, any modern use (if any) of UNC-R is prejudicial. Let me be clear that this isn't about petty college rivalry. It's about what is best for the readers of our encyclopedia. A better target exists. Let's use it. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 21:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • That seems to be historical revisionism. History still exists even if things are renamed; if they used the name 60-some years ago, then it is a valid name, removing it seems censorship. -- Though I have no problem with retargetting it to the United Nations topic, since that is a current use. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate, considering that "UNC-R" is a somewhat obscure search term for both United Nations Command–Rear and "University of North Carolina at Raleigh". WP:RNEUTRAL means that a title being derogatory is not in itself grounds for deletion. feminist (talk) 14:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    I do not see how it would be a search term for both. my understanding of how the search would look like is this UNCR is the search for the university while UNC-R would denote the United Nations command rear. If you could further explain why it is obscure for me that would be grand. Discount Horde (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

2024 United States House of Representatives elections[edit]

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Melissa Cross[edit]

  • Melissa Cross → List of vocal coaches#C  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Cross does not appear to be notable, and thus should not be listed at the target. This redirect should be deleted, although if someone can find sources to establish notability, creating an article at this title would b appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 17:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep - AFAIK, people do not need an article to be listed at List of vocal coaches. Can also be redirected to Angela_Gossow#Other_work. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's a list of notable coaches, so they need to either have an article or clearly have sufficient coverage to merit an article. signed, Rosguill talk 17:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete and remove the entry from list of vocal coaches per nominator. Given that she's mentioned in a few different articles, search results are more informative than pointing to just one of her students, or to a bare list entry. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 04:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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SOER[edit]

  • SOER → Special Operations Engineer Regiment (Australia)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

May also refer to Sustaining Oklahoma's Energy Resources. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:26, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambiguate to the two topics, and "State and Outlook of Europe's environment" (SOER) at European Environment Agency,, wiktionary, ----- a see also for Soers, Soer-Varanger, Soer-Trondelag, the two "sœʁ" pages (Seur and Soeur (disambiguation)), "Surface-Oxidation-Enhanced Raman Scattering" (SOERS) at Raman spectroelectrochemistry -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • 'Disambig per the ip. Thryduulf (talk) 15:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Patrice Synthea[edit]

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Chris Candelaria[edit]

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Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics[edit]

  • Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics → 2020 Summer Olympics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete redirect to encourage article creation Joseph2302 (talk) 17:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Both of these redirects were articles before being redirected by Onel5969. So the nominator's rationale for deletion is rather flawed. Don't delete the redirect because that would be back-door deletion of an article.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The current redirect doesn't give any subject information, so red link is perfectly fine until someone wants to create a decent article. Which is likely to happen once some competitors from the country are qualified. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore the article in the page history per WP:BLAR. Thryduulf (talk) 15:45, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Nauru at the 2020 Summer Olympics[edit]

  • Nauru at the 2020 Summer Olympics → 2020 Summer Olympics  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete redirect to encourage article creation Joseph2302 (talk) 17:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Both of these redirects were articles before being redirected by Onel5969. So the nominator's rationale for deletion is rather flawed. Don't delete the redirect because that would be back-door deletion of an article.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The current redirect doesn't give any subject information, so red link is perfectly fine until someone wants to create a decent article. Which is likely to happen once some competitors from the country are qualified. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:08, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore the article in the page history per WP:BLAR. This is without prejudice to AfD if anyone desires. Thryduulf (talk) 15:46, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

United Peace Alliance[edit]

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P-I[edit]

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Beit Midrash Har'el[edit]

  • Beit Midrash Har'el → List of rabbinical schools#Orthodox  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Recently created redirect that should have been an article if notable, and target article contains no information on the subject. Jbrzow (talk) 02:14, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

It is notable re its pioneering role in granting Orthodox Rabbinical ordination to women. See Women rabbis and Torah scholars #Orthodox Judaism. This redirect is a placeholder for an appropriate article. Fintor (talk) 17:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
If it's meant to be a placeholder, it should be a red link, not a redirect to a page where it gets ten words of mention. See reason to delete a redirect number 10. Jbrzow (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok - but please give me a few days to write the article ... Fintor (talk) 09:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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Charles S. Adams[edit]

  • Charles S. Adams → Charles Adams  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A redirect to a DAB page on which no-one has the middle initial "S" (apart from Charles Addams, a WP:PTM). Physicist Charles S. Adams is linked in Institute of Physics Joseph Thomson Medal and Prize. Delete, to encourage article creation if justified. Narky Blert (talk) 12:21, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

 Comment: Should the physicist be included on the disambiguation page? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Not while it would be a circular redirect. IDK whether or not a redirect to the Award page would meet {{R with possibilities}}, I haven't looked. Narky Blert (talk) 20:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Country data Brjanskaja oblast'[edit]

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Sleep with me, I'm not too young[edit]

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File:Infromation and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario logo.jpg[edit]

  • File:Infromation and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario logo.jpg → File:Information and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario logo.jpg  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Orphaned WP:UNNATURAL file redirect created by page move Dudhhr (talk) 05:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete: implausible typo. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 05:10, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Keep: thank you for teaching me about WP:FILEREDIRECT. 03:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Leaning keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT as below. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    18:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - obvious typo which was fixed. Keeping the error serves no purpose. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 21:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Does deleting it serve any purpose?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:30, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment that was copied from COMMONS, but we are not COMMONS, we do not have to keep track of multiple different projects that have to access the file. There is only one English Wikipedia to keep track of, so there is no need to keep bad file names because a bot needs to crawl through many different projects to fix file links. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per WP:FILEREDIRECT. Thryduulf (talk) 16:01, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

File:My blood is full of aiplanes.jpg[edit]

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Bharat (place)[edit]

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Requisition[edit]

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April 26[edit]

Parity Amendment[edit]

  • Parity Amendment → Bell Trade Act  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Parity Rights Amendment → Bell Trade Act  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Both an internal search and a Scholar search suggest that this term has been used to describe various pieces of legislation; I would suggest deletion to allow for uninhibited search results, as most of Wikipedia's coverage of such concepts is spread across various biographical and historical articles, rather than at the pages for laws that could be easily disambiguated. signed, Rosguill talk 19:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep unless nominator provides more details of the searches. When I searched within Wikipedia, I did not find any relevant non-Philippines non-Bell Trade Act results. Jay (talk) 19:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    I see Sylviane_Agacinski#Parité_amendment internally, and various references to healthcare-related parity amendments on Google Scholar [14], [15], [16]. signed, Rosguill talk 21:09, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
    I had seen Sylviane_Agacinski#Parité_amendment too, but didn't consider it significant. Other search results are for "Parity Amendment" only, not "Parity Rights Amendment". The only matching Wikipedia article is Mental Health Parity Act which should not be redirected from either of two listed Rfds. Jay (talk) 10:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Textbook[edit]

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Template:Str repc[edit]

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Fucking Backstabber[edit]

  • Fucking Backstabber → Eminem#1992–1997: Early career, Infinite and family struggles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • F***in' Backstabber / Biterphobia → Eminem  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Fuckin' Backstabber → Eminem#1988–1997: Early career, Infinite, and family struggles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at target. The second one was created in 2005 with the content "Fucking Backstabber and Biterphobia are the songs included on the rare single Soul Intent by the group Soul Intent." and soon redirected to Eminem. The closest I could find anywhere else is a track "Backstabber" at Infinite (Eminem album), though that mentions neither "Fucking" nor "Biterphobia". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:41, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: There's also Fuckin' Backstabber, which I'm adding here. Regards, SONIC678 20:16, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Lapointe, Wisconain[edit]

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Temporary structure[edit]

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Craft City[edit]

  • Craft City → Bitz & Bob  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:40, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep Fictitious city, in Bitz and bob episodes. Episode setting. ACQ322Acuity (answer me) 10:35, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not mentioned at target. Anyone who knows what Craft City is would know the programme- this isn't a TV fandom website. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:FANCRUFT. SCP-053 (talk) 02:10, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: Since 14 April it is now briefly mentioned in the article. Adumbrativus (talk) 03:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep very reasonable search term for someone who half-remembers the TV series, etc. One redirect isn't FANCRUFT all by itself, if there were twenty for this show then that might apply. User:GKFXtalk 18:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Adumbrativus. Jay (talk) 16:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Filename[edit]

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Template:Tc:[edit]

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Biunnillium[edit]

  • Biunnillium → Extended periodic table#Beyond element 172  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Biseptquadium → Extended periodic table#Beyond element 172  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]

Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 3#Elements 185+ and WP:BALL, it seems like E184 was decided as a stopping point for these redirects given mentions on WP and in the literature. Sure, there are a few trivial mentions for some hypothetical elements beyond that, but continuing a "predetermined list or a systematic pattern of names" ad infinitum would create lots of redirects of questionable utility, especially since they aren't referred to by their systematic names the few times they are mentioned. ComplexRational (talk) 15:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete per WP:CRYSTAL, and most predictions in the literature place the end of the periodic table somewhere between element 126 and shortly after element 164. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong keep the article actually discusses specifically E274 and E210, so these two redirects are not random element number redirects, they refer to topics specifically commented upon in the target article, thus are valid search terms for the information found in the page that is specifically about E210 and E274. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:01, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment these two elements are specifically discussed in the section Extended periodic table#Magic numbers and the island of stability -- though it seems we should have a separate article on the end of the periodic table, to gather such topics together instead of spreading across the article in a section different from the end of the periodic table section. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:23, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
In that article, they are mentioned by atomic number and nothing else. The sources only mention these as possible magic numbers, so the focus is on their nuclei and hardly on the elements themselves; I do not believe any source uses the systematic element names anyway. Furthermore, one could make a similar argument for any number mentioned—no matter how trivially or briefly—even though the likelihood of using and searching the systematic names becomes virtually nil. I've seen trivial mentions of 186, 188, 190, 204, 216, 260, 354, and a bunch of others in reliable sources, albeit discontinuously. Whether or not we decide to keep/create redirects past 184, we still need a clear stopping point somewhere; 184 was chosen because most sets of predictions (for most/all intermediate elements) and anecdotes stop there. ComplexRational (talk) 20:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
A "stopping point" with no reasoning is a bad idea. If the element is discussed, then whatever the stopping point is won't matter for specific redirects for topics that exist at the target. Thus, regardless of whatever stopping point is decided on, if the element is discussed, then it should have a redirect. If the element is not discussed, then it doesn't need a redirect. The existence of the redirect is predicated on it being discussed, if it isn't discussed then delete it, even if it is less that arbitrary cut-off. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Given the predictions we have, I would think 184 is not really arbitrary; there isn't much aside from trivial mentions beyond then and the use of systematic names falls off (except examples of systematic names). Maybe a case could be made to justify redirects up to 210 or 218 if we want to consider trivial mentions, nuclear shell predictions, and the Aufbau extrapolation. However, I believe that not forming a rough consensus for a cutoff would encourage the creation of redirects for arbitrarily high Z and someone will inevitably think "if Z exists, why not Z+1". That said, I wouldn't encourage randomly deciding on some number (as you say), though I don't think a one-line mention in one reliable source (the question perhaps is what counts as "discussed") is substantial enough to merit a redirect. To highlight this contrast: (almost) all the redirects we have up to 184 have something more substantial that is discussed in detail (and actually about the element, not just the number as an example for theoretical nuclear physics) in the target article; as the article content and sources demonstrate, this is not the case beyond 184. ComplexRational (talk) 21:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Strong keep These element redirects were specifically created. See above for my reason.🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 00:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

LGBT fascism[edit]

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Iwant to fuck you like an animal[edit]

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Template:Substr quick[edit]

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Template:Strnumber[edit]

  • Template:Strnumber → Template:Str number  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Template:Strfind0 → Template:Str find0  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused template redirects User:GKFXtalk 11:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Strong keep spelling variation, and expected that function names should be singular, at least to search it out -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC) Duplicate text by both me and 67.70 merged — User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • There is a convention among these functions to start them with Str_ rather than just Str, in the interests of readability: see Template:String-handling templates. While it's not perfectly consistent it does mean that these redirects are less useful, and as can be seen no-one has transcluded them. User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
      • They look like other programming/macro language forms for these functions, so good for WP:RKEEP searching for these templates. Being unused isn't a specific WP:RDELETE; and generally redirects are WP:CHEAP, so I think these two should remain if there's no other reason to delete them -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str sub old/any[edit]

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Vehicle Fac. Jabalpur[edit]

  • Vehicle Fac. Jabalpur → Jabalpur Vehicle Factory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Implausible typo. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment this doesn't look like a typo; it looks like some form of abbreviation. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment It seems to be used as a village name [17]; an old revision of the other page [18] indicates census data. The page "Vehicle_Fac.tory_Jabalpur" contains an article on the village "Vehicle_Fac._Jabalpur" because in 2012, someone rewrote the article from a village article to a factory article [19]; that person moved the article from this page name to the weird Fac.tory name [20] -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. I agree this looks to be an intentional abbreviation rather than a typo, but I can't find any uses of it other than clearly automated creations based Wikipedia page titles (or a similarly scraped source). Happy to change my mind though if somoene can point to anything independent and human-created. Thryduulf (talk) 02:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment due to the overwritten article, I suggest a history split of the village to this page name from the "Fac.tory" pagename, before deletion, to clean up history if anyone wants to undelete; or if it needs to go to AfD instead because of the overwrite with a different topic with a different name. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Vehicle Fac.tory Jabalpur[edit]

  • Vehicle Fac.tory Jabalpur → Jabalpur Vehicle Factory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Implausible typo. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • The page history of this redirect should be kept.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment an old revision of this page contains census data for a village called "Vehicle_Fac._Jabalpur" [21]. In 2012, someone rewrote the article from a village article to a factory article [22]; that person moved this page from "Fac." to "Fac.tory" [23]; so there are two articles in the history of this redirect, one of them, the village, should be residing at the "Fac." redirect location. The factory edit history should reside at this page name; the dividing point is 2012, before 2012, it is a village article, in 2012 the village article was overwritten with the factory article. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:28, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment due to the overwritten article, I suggest a history split of the village to the "Fac." page name, before deletion, to clean up history if anyone wants to undelete; or if it needs to go to AfD instead because of the overwrite with a different topic with a different name. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str rt[edit]

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Template:Str right subst[edit]

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Template:Str rep all[edit]

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Template:Str = len[edit]

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Frozen Carbonated Beverage[edit]

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COVID-19 Hospital[edit]

  • COVID-19 Hospital → SevenHills Hospital#COVID-19 hospital  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This is too specific a topic for the redirect title. feminist (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment At one point, this page did have text on it: [24]. However, I agree that the current target should be deleted or changed; perhaps Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals? AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment to me this title refers to hospitals specifically set up for COVID-19, like the NHS Nightingale hospitals, or the insta-build hospitals in China, and not a specific hospital in particular. If this article is to exist, it should be a list of such hospitals or point to such a list. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 07:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • With a quick search, I found two articles on temporary hospitals with a COVID focus: Fangcang hospital for China, and COVID-19 hospitals in the United Kingdom. I don't think we have anything on temporary buildings or structures generally (hence my nomination of Temporary structure above), let alone hospitals. The base COVID-19 pandemic has links to the British and Chinese uses, but would require further searching to locate within the article. Besides the current target, Category:Hospitals established for the COVID-19 pandemic has relevant content, so maybe the best solution would be a disambiguation page, which could eventually progress (perhaps via WP:CONCEPTDAB) to a real article. --BDD (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Unsuitable redirect (and bad caps for an article/dab-page title) since there are too many possible meanings. Whether any of the proposed alternatives are more acceptable is another question. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig per BDD with at least COVID-19 hospitals in the United Kingdom, Hospital ships involved in the COVID-19 pandemic‎, Fangcang hospital and a link to the category listed. Pedantically the dab should be at a title something like Covid-19 hospitals but wherever the dab is this title is a useful search term than should redirect to it. Thryduulf (talk) 02:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Rename to Covid-19 hospitals per Thryduulf. And that can redirect to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals per AllegedlyHuman. I would like to see that article dealing with new hospitals set up for Covid as well as existing hospitals modified to treat Covid. Jay (talk) 04:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Move to "Covid-19 hospitals" and then Delete "COVID-19 Hospital". Jay (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:MOVEREDIRECT.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    No clue on what that guide is trying to say, however I changed the vote to clarify what I meant by rename. Jay (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving redirects is pretty much benefitless. Just create a new redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving preserves page history, and the redirect has a lot because it was a merge with the target, before the redirect happened. Jay (talk) 19:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    There's no point in moving the redirect anyway because COVID-19 Hospital is a completely normal search term that shouldn't be deleted.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, it's a normal search term, but there needn't be a page with that search term. Jay (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why not?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Tony Starks[edit]

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April 25[edit]

Roman equivalent[edit]

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Åker (disambiguatuion)[edit]

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Razzleberry waterfall[edit]

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You'll Never Walk Alone (disambiuguation)[edit]

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Michael Heller (disambiuguation)[edit]

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Dani Fernández (disambiguatuion)[edit]

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Florence Lake (desambiguation)[edit]

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Crow people (digambiguation)[edit]

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Jose Fraction[edit]

  • Jose Fraction → Kerala Congress (M)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Just a term used in the article. No search results or importance. - The9Man (Talk) 09:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Fixed malformed nomination, you need to specify the target of the redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I just used Twinkle. Thanks anyway. - The9Man (Talk) 14:38, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Rename to "Jose faction". The name is a typo. The target article too needs to cleanup. Jay (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Move to "Jose faction" and then Delete "Jose Fraction". Jay (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Renaming redirects is usually a bad idea.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Wow! I can keep going over this for hours and still not be wiser: If a redirect page does not redirect to the page it would need to be redirecting to, then the only viable strategy that respects page histories is to adapt the redirect on that page, without moving the page. Jay (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving redirects is pretty much benefitless. Just create a new redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving preserves page history. Jay (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving confuses page history. And there's not that much to preserve.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    I have cleaned up the target article and replaced fraction with faction everywhere. Jay (talk) 21:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment fraction (politics) redirects to parliamentary group, though I can't tell whether it's a WP:FORRED or what. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Java jep[edit]

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The Flash (2016 film)[edit]

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Template:Japan men's volleyball squad 1996 Summer Olympics[edit]

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Agni(2004 Film)[edit]

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Zombotiny[edit]

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Wikipedia:MANDARINS[edit]

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April 24[edit]

Scott Thomas (disambiguation))[edit]

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The Sea Capital[edit]

  • The Sea Capital → Varna, Bulgaria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Varna is indeed seen as a "maritime capital" of Bulgaria, but – even allowing for the fact that such descriptions may not be as common elsewhere – it's still odd to have such a general term redirect to one specific place. – Uanfala (talk) 15:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. Consistent page views across the years, and plenty of Google hits for The Sea Capital which bring up Bulgaria-related pages. Also, it's not clear under what criteria this has been nominated for deletion. Jay (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Sorry, I thought it was commonly known. Generally, it's bad to have terms with broad reference redirecting to articles about specific instances. This has the potential to mislead readers into thinking, in this case, that the only sea capital is the Bulgarian one. – Uanfala (talk) 22:13, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Which of the points under Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion#Reasons_for_deleting would that be? Jay (talk) 18:40, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Technically, point 2. Not sure I agree that it should be deleted, but creating reader confusion is definitely an acceptable reason for deletion. Tamwin (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
          • Point 2 is about confusion definitely, but not the kind nom was referring to which is General term > Specific article. However, in case if #2 is the reason, then I would say Disambig the page if there is another candidate that claims to be the sea capital. Jay (talk) 19:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
            The only other claimants to the title I can find are an investment company and a hotel; neither seems notable. Certes (talk) 20:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
            When I search on Google Books, I find all sorts of places referred to like that, such as St. Petersburg [25] and Tyre [26] – Uanfala (talk) 00:15, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
            I tried the two links, one took me to International Scientific Conference Energy Management of Municipal Facilities and Sustainable Energy Technologies EMMFT 2019, and the other gave an error from Google Books - No results in this book for "the sea capital of". However, if you were referring to Saint Petersburg, Russia and Tyre, Lebanon, then there is no mention of sea capital in the articles. Jay (talk) 05:24, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
            The first book, p. 400: "Throughout the history, the brand 'Sea Capital of Russia' is actively formed and supported in St. Petersburg.". The second book, p. 13: "Tyre had grown in importance until it was the sea capital of the world".
            My point was not that any of those two particular places should be mentioned as a "sea capital". My point was that the term has been used for a variety of places besides Varna (as made clear by even the most cursory look on Google Books). – Uanfala (talk) 14:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
            Agree that Saint Petersburg is a suitable candidate for "Sea Capital of Russia". Tyre as a candidate, not so much. For the generic "Sea Capital" Google still prefers Varna. We can revisit this Rfd for a DAB in future when the target artcles Varna and Saint Petersburg mention them respectively as the sea capital. Jay (talk) 05:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
            Well, I see roughly equal number of hits on Google (c. 120 actual results) for both Varna and St. Petersburg [27] [28]. Otherwise, yes: neither article mentions the exact phrase "sea capital", though Varna, Bulgaria does note the city is perceived as a "maritime capital". I don't think dabifying will be viable due to the vague nature of the term and the broad set of the applicable targets (the two cities above were just examples). – Uanfala (talk) 01:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep searching for "Sea capital" on google brings up mainly partial title matches for non-notable financial institutions. For actual places, Varna is the clear primary topic - I didn't get any hits for St Petersburg or Tyre, but I did get 1 each for Tallinn and Stockholm. I agree that disambiguation is unlikely to be viable here, but I do think a set index for places named/nicknamed "sea capital" or "maritime capital" (the latter title seems to be most frequently applied to Singapore and Rotterdam about equally with less frequent occurrences of London and Dubai) along the lines of Paris of the North would work. Thryduulf (talk) 15:19, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Harry Callahan (Disambiguation)[edit]

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Consortium for the Bar Code of Life:[edit]

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James Cannon,[edit]

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Organizational Ombudsman,[edit]

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Frank Pakenham,[edit]

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Afar translation[edit]

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Jaysol[edit]

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Pinkston Watersports[edit]

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Molodova[edit]

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François‑Wolff Ligondé[edit]

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Gene R. Nichol,[edit]

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American Broadcasting Companies[edit]

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Wikipedia:NEW[edit]

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🙌[edit]

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Brushless AC electric motor[edit]

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WINE in Puppy Screen Shots[edit]

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Alcare Hand Degermer[edit]

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April 23[edit]

Ekta Jain[edit]

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Morai[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 30#Morai

Tuahu[edit]

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LeBron Witness Shirt[edit]

  • LeBron Witness Shirt → LeBron James  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete – unlikely search term and is not currently discussed in the article. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  • This was part of the "we are all witnesses" advertising campaign that's mentioned at Nike, Inc.#Sponsorship. Don't know if it's worth keeping, though. - Eureka Lott 18:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Nike, Inc.. Jay (talk) 17:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to Nike, Inc.#Sponsorship, given that this appears to be discussed there. Tamwin (talk) 20:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC) Rethinking this, as that page doesn't seem to mention the shirt specifically. Tamwin (talk) 02:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Here's a press release with mention of Witness t-shirts.[29] Obscure topic depends on how cheap we think redirects are (Wikipedia:Redirects are cheap or Wikipedia:Redirects are costly).—Bagumba (talk) 11:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Big 11[edit]

  • Big 11 → Big Ten Conference  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This redirect was created when the Big Ten Conference had eleven (11) member institutions. It now has fourteen (14) members, so having "Big 11" redirect to Big Ten Conference would just result in unwarranted confusion. The owner of all (talk) 18:05, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. Redirects are cheap and there is nothing else more relevant that "Big 11" could redirect towards. I have not seen any confusion over the redirect, especially considering the conference had 11 members a little over a decade ago or so. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 14:32, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The redirect makes no sense. Jay (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete Inaccurate, frivolous.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:49, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Refine as {{R from incorrect name}} to Big Ten Conference#1990 expansion: Penn State where this is explained. I didn't see much for competing usage outside of a park in KCK that has no coverage on Wikipedia outside of a name drop. -- Tavix (talk) 03:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Refine, per Tavix, as "Big 11" is explained in that section. Hog Farm Talk 04:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Open Researcher Contributor Identiificatiion[edit]

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Wikipedia:FAKENEWS[edit]

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List of equipment of Cyprus[edit]

  • List of equipment of Cyprus → List of equipment of the Cypriot National Guard  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The redirect is a leftover of Talk:List of equipment of the Cypriot National Guard#Requested move 16 April 2021 (permalink).

The name of the redirect is confusing since "equipment of Cyprus" definitely contains other things that are not "equipment of the Cypriot National Guard", like say... scissors? I am quite sure there are ✂ in Cyprus. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 15:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete how does this relate to the equipement of the tax collection agency? or other entities -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. Although this says the redirect is the leftover of a move done on April 23, the page history says the redirect was created on March 3 by User:Noah Kastin, who has not been notified of this Rfd or the earlier move. Or am I getting confused with the WP:ROUNDROBIN that happened? Jay (talk) 05:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, it is a wp:round robin. I do not see a point notifying them since the redirect was initially created as List of equipment of the Cypriot National Guard by Noah Kastin. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 06:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Then who created List of equipment of Cyprus? In the history of List of military equipment of Cyprus, I see the creator's comment: Eurohunter moved page List of military equipment of Cyprus to List of equipment of Cyprus. Why he would do that, I don't know. Jay (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    I am not sure too since they initiated the linked requested move above after the move, but presumably the current title is what they wants. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 00:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    I have notified Eurohunter about this Rfd. Jay (talk) 05:28, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Leticia Dionizio[edit]

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Qaumaniq[edit]

  • Qaumaniq → Inuit religion#Angakuit  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at target. The only search result is currently a mention in a ref at Inuit Studies Conference. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment. Qaumaniq was earlier mentioned in the target. The section was then cleaned and made to reference the main article Angakkuq. I have notified this Rfd at that article as well as the user who had cleaned up. Jay (talk) 11:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Wentshukumi****eu[edit]

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Kulin,[edit]

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Medusa (mythology),[edit]

  • Medusa (mythology), → Medusa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This was created with the content "MEDUSA" in 2005 and immediately redirected with the summary "Better to redirect than to delete". I would suggest deletion of this WP:UNNATURAL error; however, for some reason, this does get some 10 pageviews per month. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 08:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete There is absolutely no need for this redirect. Paul August ☎ 14:39, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, I think we should err on the side of caution with those pageviews, presumably caused by some odd old link. It doesn't harm to keep the redirect, but it might harm to delete it.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:12, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - This, for some odd reason, has been getting decent pageviews, including a good bit over 100 in 2020. Don't know why this is being used, but its existence doesn't actually hurt anything, and it is apparently getting used. Hog Farm Talk 01:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. So many of our mythological topics have titles formatted this way that people are likely to use it as a link, and perhaps as a search term—overly cautious, perhaps, but there are a lot of things named after Medusa, including an asteroid, so doubtless there are many people who will argue that Medusa is not primary for the title... in any case, a potentially useful redirect. P Aculeius (talk) 12:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
@P Aculeius: Just to check, did you see the comma at the end? Your comment kinda implies you haven't, and I missed it on my first read. Tamwin (talk) 05:52, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
I didn't—I looked for something odd about the link, and couldn't see anything, probably assuming that the comma was part of the nomination, not the link.
  • Delete. Nobody's going to search with a comma at the end; if this redirect gets pageviews, it's by accident—probably because it pops up in the search window when people start to type "Medusa" or "Medusa (mythology)" without a comma. P Aculeius (talk) 12:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I think the reason some of the redirects with commas get pageviews is that when you start typing the term in Wikipedia search window, it shows both options - without and with comma, and people might pick either of them. I think the redirect should be deleted as there's another redirect without comma that comes up both in Wiki and search engines. Less Unless (talk) 14:13, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Connellan Airport,[edit]

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John McAdam,[edit]

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Meeting on Vjun[edit]

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Dr. Michael Roizen[edit]

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Safemoon[edit]

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Andy ****[edit]

  • Andy **** → Andy Dick  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Seems like a very unusual way to refer to the target, as the odds of somebody typing **** instead of Dick when it's somebody's last name seems odd. Hog Farm Talk 00:15, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Just plain stupid, there's lots of Dicks. What's next, **** Van Dyke? Dominicmgm (talk) 01:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete juvenile joke that doesn’t belong here.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 03:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
On a related note I think **** parade,****ing, Austria and *****ing Betty should also be put up for deletion since there’s no evidence that either of them are known by that alternate name.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 03:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Those are at least expletives being used as expletives; it's conceivable that some particularly puritanical news outlet might censor them. Tamwin (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete this redirect per above. I can see where the creator's coming from, and Andy Dick may have exhibited some ****ish behavior during his life, but this just...doesn't help things because it's used in the wrong context. Regards, SONIC678 04:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. This is a common name that is clearly not an expletive in this context. Tamwin (talk) 19:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Wikipedia's edit filters will filter/flag out this surname. Though, how this redirect would help, would require a bot to actively go about and replace these links with the fulltext link instead. So it could be helpful to unconfirmed editors, but it would require a cleanup category and some confirmed editor or bot to go around and fnx them later. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:34, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I think a more likely reason for this redirect's creation is to fix a link that was placed on some other Web site that automatically censored it. Template:No article text has been used to handle some other link modifications; could that be done for this? --116.86.4.41 (talk) 17:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Can we tell whether this was created as an intentional Scunthorpe problem workaround, or an editor being too much of a prude to type the man's name? At first glance it's utterly ridiculous, but if it holds some value as other people are saying then it's worth considering (and maybe expanding to other articles?). AllegedlyHuman (talk) 10:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    We'll never know as this editor's one and only contribution was 12 years back. Jay (talk) 05:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per SONIC. Jay (talk) 05:03, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

April 22[edit]

Boston Misunderstanding[edit]

  • Boston Misunderstanding → Boston Massacre  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This does not seem to be an attested alternative name for the Boston Massacre. The only relevant hits I found while searching were satirical (eg: [30]). -- Tavix (talk) 23:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete seems like a joke redirect.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. If there are satirical references, like the one linked, then this may be of use to readers who are looking up the reference to figure out what it's talking about. Tamwin (talk) 19:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
If it’s just one I don’t think it’s enough to keep this.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 00:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
It isn't the only reference though: [31] plus another one I can't add because it's on the spam blacklist. Now, admittedly, that's not a ton, which is why it's a weak keep. Tamwin (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

European super league[edit]

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Kirkbymoorside/Kirkbymoorside railway station[edit]

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MSDOSSYS.STS[edit]

  • MSDOSSYS.STS → Safe mode#MSDOSSYS.STS  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete: the target article makes no mention of MSDOSSYS.STS, and AFAICT, never had. Crash48 (talk) 18:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep MSDOSSYS.STS is a Microsoft Windows 95/98/SE/ME alternative configuration file used in Safe Mode booting. The redirect is marked to be a redirect with possibilities and at some point in the future it should probably be discussed in an article discussing the Windows Safe Mode booting procedure in better details. For now, it at least helps readers running into this filename somewhere to point them to a generic description of Windows safe mode booting, so they at least get the context. Per WP:REDIR purposes, redirect topics do not need to be mentioned "as is" in the target article (although they often are within practical limits), they only need to be contextually related and useful. As there is no conflict with another topic of this name, deleting the redirect would not serve any purpose, but would destroy already set up infrastructure. I have a pile of old documentation on these bits, but it's archived at present. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 19:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
So I'm one of those readers running into this filename somewhere who found the redirect entirely unhelpful. The target article provides zero context: all it currently explains is how to enter Safe Mode. The relevant guideline is WP:R#DELETE no.10: If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject. --Crash48 (talk) 20:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
But the article already establishes a context, so if the reader ran into the file and was wondering what it is, s/he at least knows that it is related to Windows Safe Mode. That's more than "virtually nothing". And it is also more than leaving the reader totally clueless if the redirect would not have existed at all (or would be deleted). Sure, more could be written about it (and probably will at some point in the future), but that's not a good reason to delete as deleting is not an improvement, adding more contents is. Rome wasn't built in a day, contents and infrastructure aren't necessary built at the same time (nor necessarily by the same people) in a collaborative project.
No, the reader wouldn't know that MSDOSSYS.STS is related to Windows Safe Mode because the article on Safe mode is not specific to Windows. That was my own experience as a reader wondering what MSDOSSYS.STS is and remaining totally clueless after landing at Safe mode article. --Crash48 (talk) 10:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
WP:R#KEEP #3 ("They aid searches on certain terms. For example, if someone sees the "Keystone State" mentioned somewhere but does not know what that refers to, then he or she will be able to find out at the Pennsylvania (target) article.") and #4 ("Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways") apply.
--Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
KEEP#3 certainly doesn't apply; an equivalent case would be if Greenburr redirected to Pennsylvania on the grounds of "Well it's a tiny locality in PA, never mind that the article on PA doesn't, and needn't, mention it". Note how most of place names under Category:Lists of places in Pennsylvania are redlinked, and don't just redirect to random articles for "context". --Crash48 (talk) 10:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - I couldn't find the anchor anywhere in the page's history either (nor even "MSDOS"), so I was leaning delete, but I was also waiting to hear from the #R's creator before voting, so keep per Matthiaspaul.   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:18, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Globe (Earth)[edit]

No consensus Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: no consensus.

Maarakeh bombing[edit]

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African Americans in Finland[edit]

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Conway, South Carolina,[edit]

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Bethel TV[edit]

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Celtic literature,[edit]

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Illiam Dhone,[edit]

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Tennessee State Senate,[edit]

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Hanna-Barbera Island[edit]

  • Hanna-Barbera Island → Cartoon Network Studios  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This redirect page appears to be for something that doesn't even exist, as a Google search merely pulled up a few fanfics and the DTV movie Scooby-Doo! Return to Zombie Island, among other things. IceWalrus236 (talk) 18:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Wait and follow the outcome of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 15#Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral, as it this was mentioned as an alternative title in the since-redirected article. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:28, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral[edit]

  • Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral → Hanna-Barbera  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Non-notable compilation series redirected unilaterally in 2005, and no longer mentioned at target. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Retarget to List of programs broadcast by Boomerang#Former programming blocks as {{R to list entry}}; it appears to be a Boomerang programming block and is mentioned there. —Ost (talk) 18:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Flying Flowers[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Flying Flowers

Pseudoscience (physics)[edit]

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Eductor-jet pump[edit]

  • Eductor-jet pump → Injector  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Eductors → Injector  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Eductor → Eduction  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]

It seems that these three (Eductor-jet pump, Eductors, Edutor) should probably go to the same place, but I don't know which place that is. I stumbled upon this situation while cleaning up Eduction. Note, too, that I redirected Educt to Eduction, in case anyone has other opinions about that one. Cnilep (talk) 06:44, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment from proposer: Since no one has expressed an idea yet, let me ask this. Are there any objections to (re)targeting both 'Eductor' and 'Eductors' to the disambiguation 'Eduction', and leaving 'Eductor-jet pump' as the status quo (pointing to 'Injector')? Better suggestions are, of course, welcome. Cnilep (talk) 23:38, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Target/retarget eductor and eductors to DAB page Eduction as {{R from ambiguous term}}. (Oh, and endorse nom's retargetting of educt to Eduction.}
Retarget eductor-jet pump to Vacuum ejector. It's a piece of kit which will be familiar to anyone who's ever worked in a high school, university or industrial laboratory. It's given as an alternative name in the infobox. (I knew what I was looking for, but it was the devil to find. I would call it a water pump.) Narky Blert (talk) 16:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Retarget eductor and eductor to DAB at eduction, for the record checked educter in case it had somehow made its way from Latin into English (not so far). For the fun of it, in my dictionary there are six words with two consecutive "u"s. Vacuum and continuum are easy, and I give you triduum and menstruum for free. You'll get a small residuum if you find the sixth. 94.21.10.117 (talk) 01:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Duumvir. I accept all major cards. Narky Blert (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Fent[edit]

  • Fent → Fentanyl  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

While this does appear to sometimes be a slang term for fentanyl, it also is a word in its own right. I'm not really sure whether a wiktionary redirect or deletion is more appropriate here. signed, Rosguill talk 15:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambiguate to a wiktionary link, fentanyl, Kathleen Fent, Lance Baker Fent from The Peanut Butter Conspiracy, FENT -- a product of Laboratory for Energy Conversion ---- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 22:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to facilitate uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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Disambiguate per the IP. These are all plausible. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per above. Kathleen Fent means it will be {{dab|surname}}. Narky Blert (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Shhhnotsoloud, unless there is a good dab candidate. Kathleen Fent also doesn't have an article, and is a redirect. Jay (talk) 21:46, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per the IP. We should cover all the bases here to help searchers. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Trackdad[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

George Floyd/[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedied by Liz

Dragonfly,[edit]

  • Dragonfly, → Dragonfly  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The page's initial content was referring to a track from The Hunter (Blondie album), but as it does not seem notable (I can only find lyric pages on a quick web search), I suggest deleting this per WP:UNNATURAL. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Move page history to Dragonfly (Blondie song) without leaving a redirect, and retarget to The Hunter (Blondie album). I don't see any indication that the comma is part of the song's stylised title, and there is no reason to otherwise retain a redirect at this title, but under a more specific title this could be kept as a redirect to the album. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Move page history per Paul 012. The nominated page has non-trivial history worth keeping. feminist (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Killing Barney[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

April 21[edit]

Muscle fiber[edit]

  • Muscle fiber → Skeletal muscle#Muscle fibers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibers → Skeletal muscle#Muscle fibers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibers, fast-twitch → Myocyte#Fiber types  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibre → Myocyte  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibres → Skeletal muscle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Target had been Myocyte for six years, recently changed w/o discussion. MB 18:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak keep In my medically uninformed assessment, the new target does appear to be more appropriate than the old one. MB, is there any specific issue that you have with the new target other than a procedural concern? signed, Rosguill talk 20:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Rosguill, No, just a long standing redirect changed without discussion or much reason ("better target"). I am similarly uninformed and after looking at both articles wasn't sure and was trying to get a more expert opinion. Aren't muscle fibers found in all types of muscle, not just skeletal muscle? If so, why is the target an article on skeletal muscle rather than Myocyte which seems to be more broad. MB 20:29, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Given that the long-standing redirect was the product of a bot-correction of a double redirect, I wouldn't implicitly put much faith in the old redirect target, even if it has been around for 5 years. signed, Rosguill talk 20:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • I've added some related redirects that MB found, but am still not sure what the best solution here is (other than that most of thse should probably point at th same place). Simply pointing to Muscle may be appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 01:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as redirects for Myocyte. We had this discussion before "muscle fiber" /" muscle fibre" is a synonym of "muscle cell", which is the definition of myocyte. The redirection to Skeletal muscle leaves out the fact that muscle fibres/fibers occur in cardiac tissue as well as in skeletal muscle. It is also a vertebrate centric change. There are invertebrate animals (without skeletons) that have muscle fibers, but they do not have skeletons and therefore have no skeletal muscle. The undiscussed change to the redirect is unwarranted. Also, it is not clear what the previous "keep" vote is for. None of these redirects are up for deletion are they? The term "muscle fiber" / "muscle fibre" is extremely common in the literature, so deletion or the redirects would not make sense. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    EncycloPetey, at RfD, "keep" means "keep current target" (the current target at the time of nomination, regardless if it's established or the result of a recent bold change). Your recommendation her is for "retargeting". – Uanfala (talk) 22:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as is - muscle cell still redirects to myocyte; however Redirect if the proposed move from Myocyte to Muscle cell goes ahead; the redirects were made in accordance with the MeSH entry which distinguishes between myocyte and muscle fiber still referring to myocyte for cardiac muscle cell.[32] Do invertebrates have muscle cells or muscle fibers? As far as I can see a muscle fiber only refers to a skeletal muscle cell. Otherwise this could be mentioned in Other animals.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    Muscle tissue consists of elongated cells also called as muscle fibers - taken from muscle tissue page.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    Also image used in infobox on skeletal muscle page uses diagram from Seer cancer training clearly showing use of muscle fiber describing it as a single cell and multi-nuclear.[33] --Iztwoz (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Iztwoz: The the MeSH entry is specifically about human medicine. It does not cover non-human biology. Muscle fibers are found in nearly all animals (except sponges). Using the the MeSH entry over other viewpoints violates WP:NPOV.
    But even in humans, muscle cell/fibers occur in both skeletal and cardiac muscle. See pp.276-284 in Marieb & Hoehn, Human Anatomy & Physiology, 8th edition, which is a standard textbook in universities. I quote from page 276: "First, skeletal and smooth muscle cells ... are called muscle fibers." So fibres are synonymous with "cell" in muscle tissue, and are not restricted in use of the term to skeletal muscle.
    It is easy to find evidence of the term used for invertebrates, for example in this paper on the hydrodynamics of jellyfish swimming: [34] "Swimming via jet propulsion involves contraction of circular muscle fibers "Swimming via jet propulsion involves contraction of circular muscle fibers..." Or also this article [35] on contractile strength of muscle fibres in giant clams. In this article muscle fibre is even a keyword for the article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    The the MeSH entry is specifically about human medicine. It does not cover non-human biology. Muscle fibers are found in nearly all animals (except sponges). Using the the MeSH entry over other viewpoints violates WP:NPOV. Most of the pages covering muscle is about human muscle - vertebrate muscle is also a given 'same'. The fibers referred to in invertebrates (from what I have read - limited) are smooth muscle fibers with the term fiber used to more relate to the myofibrils of muscle - however the use of muscle fiber in human terms does solely relate to the skeletal muscle cell. More could be given to the muscle 'components' in invertebrates - the exoskeleton exists in some invertebrates which could maybe be included with related muscle.
    But even in humans, muscle cell/fibers occur in both skeletal and cardiac muscle. See pp.276-284 in Marieb & Hoehn, Human Anatomy & Physiology, 8th edition, which is a standard textbook in universities. I quote from page 276: "First, skeletal and smooth muscle cells ... are called muscle fibers." So fibres are synonymous with "cell" in muscle tissue, and are not restricted in use of the term to skeletal muscle. I can only go by what is given clearly in the refs provided. I think I have seen this use but for the purposes of non-confusion think it's better to easily separate skeletal muscle fiber - I know that I have never come across the use of cardiac muscle fiber - there is the page cardiac muscle cells.....
    Apart from the 'counter-comments' made, it seems that much could be done to improve the overall coverage of the muscle topic in a more comprehensive way. I have posted a redirect proposal for myocyte to muscle cell which may hopefully be a way out of some of the confusion.
    I also feel that the page Muscle tissue needs to be merged back to Muscle which will also help overall coverage. And the various twitch fibers could maybe then find a better homesite. Have just (rightly or wrongly) changed Muscle fibers on Skeletal muscle page to Skeletal muscle fibers so that there is a more specific target. Don't think it will make a differene in terms of the redirect proposal.? --Iztwoz (talk) 12:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    Iztwoz, I've refactored your comment above, I hope you find it acceptable. Feel free to change the layout, but please don't interject your comments into others' posts: this makes it really difficult for the rest of us to figure out who's saying what. – Uanfala (talk) 22:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • @EncycloPetey: - I have found other references that back up your comments on cardiac muscle fibers and others - so intend to make edits to pages, and if proposed change of page name from Myocyte to Muscle cell goes ahead then it would be appropriate for Muscle fiber to redirect back there. Best --Iztwoz (talk) 14:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    Thanks. I will also point out that we already had a discussion about merging Muscle Tissue into the Muscle article, and the result of that discussion was to not merge, for many reasons. If they were merged, it would be the only one of the four basic animal tissues that did not have its own article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    That's a poor argument really, conversely - muscle is the page that has specific content covering all aspects of muscle tissue which readily redirects with bold to muscle. There is no such comparison with nervous tissue or connective tissue; and similarly to muscle, epithelial tissue redirects to Epithelium. --Iztwoz (talk) 19:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Sorry, Iztwoz, but I don't understand your meaning. We have articles for each of the four animal tissue types that are separate from articles about organs and organ systems. Why do you feel that muscle tissue should not be treated the same way? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @EncycloPetey: There is no article on Epithelial tissue - there is an article on Epithelium. The entry term of Muscle does not refer specifically to a complete organ (as in a list of muscles) but to the general tissue.? --Iztwoz (talk) 07:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    You are incorrect. First, in that epithelium is a synonym for epithelial tissue, so there is no distinction to be make; for that tissue the choice of term is immaterial. The article at epithelium is about the tissue even though it does not have "tissue" in the name. But in the English language muscle and muscle tissue are not synonymous. We can say "There are 650 muscles in the human body." But we cannot say "There are 650 muscle tissues in the body." The terms "muscle" and "muscle tissue" are not synonymous, and we don't want to surprise the reader. The article on Muscle is already very long, and there is still a lot of information that has not yet been added to that article. Merging the large (and potential for much more) article on muscle tissue would create an article of such length that we would then split out an article on muscle tissue. So: "muscle" and "muscle tissue" are not synonyms; there are very long (and potentially longer) articles on both topics; and the other three animal tissues have their own separate articles—three reasons for keeping the articles separate. You can find the previous merge discussion at Talk:Muscle/Archive_1#Proposed merge with Muscle tissue, where the merge was opposed by community consensus. Again, why do you feel that muscle tissue does not deserve the same treatment in a separate article as the other three animal tissues? --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    Firstly - there was no community consensus on the merge proposal - it was three for, and three against. I would just restate the arguments for the merge as posted on that page - they have not changed. The page Muscle is essentially about muscle tissue it cannot be about anything else since it's not about a muscle or any one muscle but describes cardiac, skeletal and smooth muscle - as tissue; and is a duplicate of material on muscle tissue. Has there ever been a proposal to move Muscle to Muscle tissue? They cover the same material.? As for your claim that the page would be made overly long cannot be valid since most of the material is already on Muscle page. But the merge proposal has not been made so perhaps leave the arguments until it has. Best--Iztwoz (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    It sounds to me as though you haven't actually looked at the material present in each article. The two articles do not have the same content. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - Myocyte has just been moved to Muscle cell per Talk:Muscle cell#Requested move 17 April 2021 (permalink). ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 07:40, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

UNIVERSAL[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Abolish Wales/Abolish Scotland[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Abolish Wales/Abolish Scotland

Calm After The Storm([edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Witch (word([edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6

The Silent Force Tour ([edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6

School Milk Act 1946[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Wikipedia:CR[edit]

  • Wikipedia:CR → Wikipedia:Cleanup resources  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Proposing retarget to Wikipedia:Closure requests, which was recently moved from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure (WP:ANRFC) in Wikipedia talk:Closure requests § Requested move 22 March 2021. Multiple editors in the requested move suggested usurping this shortcut for the closure requests noticeboard.

According to pageview data, the closure requests noticeboard received a combined 7,353 pageviews in the last 90 days, while Wikipedia:Cleanup resources received only 344 in the same time period. — Newslinger talk 11:58, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • I think it would probably be best to Disambiguate this, as the current target has a hatnote with 4 other pages this could reasonably be targeted to, and we now have two processes with this initialism which have a reasonable claim to it, one because they've been using this shortcut for 15 years and have hundereds of backlinks, the other because it's a widely used noticeboard. I think a reasonable dab page would include Wikipedia:Cleanup resources, Wikipedia:Closure requests, Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects, probably a couple of others I've missed. Perhaps claim a new shortcut for the closure requests noticeboard, e.g. no one is using WP:CLR yet. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Closure requests per nom; shortcuts are meant to shortcuts, not longcuts. The incoming links will need to be fixed however.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I would strongly lean toward retargeting if it weren't for the issue of all the historical links to the old shortcut. Is there any way to mass change those so that they don't start pointing to the wrong place? If so, we should do that. I oppose disambiguation, which combines the worst of both: disrupts the history, and prevents WP:Closure requests from obtaining a convenient shortcut it was specifically moved to the new title so it could have. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 22:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    ​Yes, either AutoWikiBrowser or JavaScript Wiki Browser can change the old WP:CR links into piped links that point to Wikipedia:Cleanup resources. I can do this if there is consensus to retarget, and anyone is welcome to join in. — Newslinger talk 01:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
    Okay, in that case, Retarget. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 01:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep or disambiguate - This redirect is more than one decade old, so in my opinion, the time for changing it has passed. However, a disambiguation page may be helpful, if that is something done for Wikipedia space. Per WP:ONEOTHER, "If there are two or three other topics, it is still possible to use a hatnote which lists the other topics explicitly, but if this would require too much text (roughly, if the hatnote would extend well over one line on a standard page), then it is better to create a disambiguation page and refer only to that." --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate seems to be best -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 01:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Disambiguate per above. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 00:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per consensus at Wikipedia_talk:Closure_requests#Requested_move_22_March_2021. I proposed Wikipedia:Requests for closure initially, but that was rejected due to lacking a suitable acronym, indicating editors cared for a suitable acronym to the page when agreeing to move that title. (the retarget was mentioned in the proposal and nobody made a comment opposing the retarget, and a few explicitly made arguments for why it was appropriate to hijack the redirect). TBH, I thought that discussion was consensus to enact that consensus until I saw this RfD exists when I was looking to implement the retargeting today (I suppose all retargets need to go via RfD? TIL.) Anyway, Wikipedia:Cleanup resources is absolutely not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Incoming links should probably be updated if this is retargeted. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:31, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • COUNTER Proposal: Why not CRN (Closure Requests Noticeboard) as the new shortcut? Solves the history/archive problem, short, and logical. GenQuest "scribble" 18:31, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's a mouthful to (unnecessarily, IMO) add "noticeboard" onto the end and makes the title more convoluted. I'm not convinced ATM the history/archive problem is major (it's solvable in the manner Newslinger says above), and would happen every time a dab page is created (per WP:DAB) or removed (per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC), and happens in other areas too (like when templates are deleted). But I could be wrong, as redirects aren't my specialty. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:04, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Note for closer: The discussion at Wikipedia talk:Closure requests#Requested move 22 March 2021, which passed, was in large part predicated on hijacking WP:CR, something that was explicitly spelled out in the nomination. Given the large amount of participation at that discussion, the closer may wish to give some amount of weight to the views of the !voters there. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. We should always be very conservative about changing the target of shortcut redirects because doing so has the potential to cause old comments (linked and unlinked), edit summaries, etc. to become misleading and causing the same problems for new comments - people do not expect shortcuts to change so they will continue to write and read them as meaning the old target while others will do the same for the new one causing miscommunication and confusion. This shortcut has been established as referring to the current target for over 15 years so any change will be disruptive. That a newly renamed page has the same initials does not come close to justifying or outweighing that disruption, especially when it is already linked in a hatnote. I also oppose disambiguation as that just makes all the old (and new) links ambiguous causing nearly as much disruption while benefiting nobody. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Wikipedia:Closure requests. The now renamed closure requests is are more valuable page to quickly link to than the current.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 01:12, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget. Here's the thing. I agree that we should be super careful about retargeting a longstanding shortcut. But this particular shortcut is currently an obscure page that's likely cited very rarely. The cost is comparatively small, and the gain comparatively large. Wikipedia talk:Closure requests#Requested move 22 March 2021 indicated a strong consensus to usurp this redirect, and I think that was the right call. Tamwin (talk) 20:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

AcademicElitism[edit]

  • AcademicElitism → Ivory tower  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Academic elitism → Elitism#Academic  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not really sure what to make of this one. It's quite literally one of the oldest things on the site – created in Feb 2001 by Jimbo himself. It seems to have had a technical purpose earlier, but I'm not well-versed enough in the coding aspects to know what it was. The issue here is that academic elitism is itself a redirect to elitism, meaning if the redirect is determined to serve a purpose as a plausible misspelling, it should probably at least be retargeted. Leaving this here for more discussion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Definitely do not delete, see {{R from CamelCase}}. Retargeting seems useful. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:58, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep and refine to Ivory tower#Academic usage. I think Academic elitism should be retargeted to Ivory tower#Academic usage as well since the current target, Elitism#Academic, was removed from that article in 2019 as it was unreferenced. Regardless of what target is decided, they should be the same. A7V2 (talk) 11:44, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Somehow sync with Academic elitism, as R from CamelCase for that term, and also tag as R avoided double redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:19, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment When this page was created, it did initially have some text: [36]. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
There was an entire article at Academic elitism until 2014, when it was turned into a redirect due to having serious issues and being poorly sourced Diff 86.23.109.101 (talk) 22:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I have added Academic elitism to this nomination because the two are clearly related. Pinging @AllegedlyHuman: @Paul 012: @1234qwer1234qwer4:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget both to Elitism, which has a See also entry to Ivory tower. Neither target is perfect but I'm not sure Ivory tower really deals with what academic elitism is. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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Halo pc[edit]

  • Halo pc → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo PC → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo (PC Game) → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo (computer game) → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Back when these redirect were created the only halo game available on PC was combat evolved, with the rest of the series being Xbox exclusive, but that is no longer the case. Halo 2 was released on PC in 2007 ish, and the rest of the series have recently been ported to PC as part of Halo: The Master Chief Collection. At this exact moment in time I think the primary topic of these redirects is probably the master chief collection based on a google search, but that's probably recentism due to the collection only recently being released. I propose retargeting these to the article on the franchise. (Halo (franchise)) 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Halo (franchise)#Game series. Probably didn't need to be discussed here unless there was pushback on the retargetting. Also take a look at the hatnote on that page following any new redirects to it. Lithopsian (talk) 14:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all As stated by the nominator, they are now too vague since every Halo game is on PC. They no longer have any navigational purpose as "Halo PC" now means the same thing as "Halo".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete "halo pc" variations as a halo that is politically correct or halo around personal computers are unrelated to HALO the PC version -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 01:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to Halo (franchise)#Game series. Plausible search term, especially since the franchise was notoriously slow in getting its games onto PC, so "Halo as a PC game is just Halo" isn't as commonly known for a general audience. Definitely a stronger case for not deleting the bracketed versions since search intention is clearer with those. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Help:Admonitions[edit]

  • Help:Admonitions → Wikipedia:Teahouse#Help_on_admonitions_templates  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This was supposedly created as a temporary redirect according to the creation summary, for what purpose I don't know. At any rate a help page redirect from a term not used on wikipedia to a long archived question on the teahouse is of no use to anybody. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 22:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Firstly, Teahouse discussion archival broke the redirect. Secondly, as you point out it was temporary and, after waiting a bit for any further comment, I forgot to amend it to what appeared to be the conclusion: amboxes. —James R. Haigh (talk) 2021-04-14Wed21:19:17Z
I fixed/amended it as per the outcome of the original discussion at Teahouse. —James R. Haigh (talk) 2021-04-14Wed21:41:34Z
Ok, that's fair enough, but those style of article message boxes aren't called "admonitions" on Wikipedia, and as a word that just means "A warning" I wouldn't expect to end up in that template documentation if I was searching help documentation for this term, I'd expect to end up at something relating to the user warning templates. If this is kept I think something like Wikipedia:Vandalism#Warnings or Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace would be a better target. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 22:05, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete. This redirect is hardly used and confusing (it certainly isn't headed anywhere I would expect it to point). I don't think it should be used, and I don't see the point in keeping a redirect that's unlikely to serve any purpose. Tamwin (talk) 20:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The temporary redirect has been fixed by JamesHaigh and is now redundant. There are no other suitable targets. Jay (talk) 18:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Cute news[edit]

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Astitene[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Astateen[edit]

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Tyrium[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 2#Tyrium

Archibald Philip, 5th Earl of Rosebery Primrose[edit]

  • Benjamin, 1st Earl of Beaconsfield Disraeli → Benjamin Disraeli  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • John, 1st Earl Russell of Kingston Russell Russell → John Russell, 1st Earl Russell  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Archibald Philip, 5th Earl of Rosebery Primrose → Archibald Primrose, 5th Earl of Rosebery  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete all in light of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 April 29#Redirects created by Danny: Class B (i.e. of the form: First name(s), all titles, surname). NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 16:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • No opinion, but I would note that the Russell redirect came about as part of a relatively ancient project in which we tried to make sure that we had all the same topics covered as the Encarta encyclopedia, and made redirects from titles used by Encarta to differently titled articles on Wikipedia. This one, however, is particularly odd and unintuitive. BD2412 T 19:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Delete all: Frankly, these are implausible search terms. Who's going to type those strings in? Ravenswing 15:09, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete: Don't see many people searching these long names, especially the 3 Russells one. If you know enough to know that someone has this name, I'm sure you'll also know their short names Joseph2302 (talk) 16:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

HotH[edit]

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Anne Productions[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Anne Productions

Anjuman Institute of Technology and Management[edit]

  • Anjuman Institute of Technology and Management → Visvesvaraya Technological University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anjuman Institute of Technology and Management was closed as redirect to Visvesvaraya Technological University. However, List of engineering colleges affiliated to Visvesvaraya Technological University#Private un-aided colleges is likely the better redirect target here.

The proposed redirection target contains some information about the school whereas the current one does not mention the school at all. There seems to be no other plausible redirection target apart from these two articles from a Wikipedia search.

@Vincentvikram, Adamant1, Chirota, and JPxG: Notifying AfD participants. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

@Chiro725: Mistargeted ping. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 10:49, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Aseleste, for pointing out that link. Sure a redirect to the list page is fine. Regards VV 10:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for pinging me. I'm fine with redirecting to the list page. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Aseleste, thanks for notifying me. I am agreeing with others with the new target page (List of engineering colleges affiliated to Visvesvaraya Technological University#Private un-aided colleges) of the redirect. Chirota (talk) 17:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Arcade tournament[edit]

  • Arcade tournament → Arcade game  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at Arcade game or the recently split Arcade video game. The page history shows that this was just a spam page fifteen years ago. IceWelder [✉] 09:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Esports for consistency with redirects like Gaming tournament. A google search shows that this is the name for a gaming tournament that takes place on arcade machines. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment are pinball machine tournaments esports? "gaming tournament" is a "gambling tournament" in 20th-century English. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Clueless newbie[edit]

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JLin[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 28#JLin

Hmong genocide[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Wikipedia:NOTSEARCHENGINE[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Delete.

,R and B[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

. Salkuni[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

. December 2017 Kabul Bombing[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Strongbox[edit]

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2004 Republican Presidential Candidates[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

Solidarite Fanm Ayisyèn[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted

Ministère à la Condition féminine et aux Droits des femmes[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted

British King who got his head cut off[edit]

  • British King who got his head cut off → Charles I of England  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete, but rather because it is a pointy response to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 04:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as an obviously WP:POINTy response to the result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. It's an inappropriate redirect for the reasons laid out regarding the similar redirect in that discussion. ― Tartan357 Talk 04:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Meets none of the purposes at Wikipedia:Redirect#Purposes of redirects. DrKay (talk) 06:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as a useful and unambiguous search term. Just because some people dislike redirects of this nature is not a reason to delete those that help people find the content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 10:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous RfD. Thryduulf, it's not a good look to create a redirect from a term someone mentioned as a redirect we shouldn't have as soon as the RfD in question is closed not in your favor. -- Tavix (talk) 11:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Thyrduulf, as an administrator, you should know better than to violate WP:POINT like you did in creating this redirect. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    There was nothing pointy about this creation, it was created as a result of multiple people in the previous discussion suggesting it would be a better search term - I agreed and so created it. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Newyorkbrad said there, "For example, we don't redirect King who had six wives to Henry VIII or British King who got his head cut off to Charles I." (exact capitalisation) Your King who had six wives redirect was gone per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 2#King who had six wives, though such deletion did not arise from pointless. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 20:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    And you will note in the King who had six wives discussion that I explained extensively why such redirects are a good thing and how, in the absence of the redirect, the search engine does not find the content that people are looking for when using the search term meaning deletion harms the encyclopaedia. I still stand by those arguments and will continue arguing against actions that harm the encyclopaedia while providing no (or less) benefit to the project. This is another example where deletion will bring harm and no benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 23:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I am very willing to own it up if I have said it as well as to apologise for and retract this comment if so, but I did not acknowledge your extensive explanations, if you have indeed made any. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Eh? I'm sorry, but that comment reads mostly as a jumble of words. Thryduulf (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I am sorry, but I did not recall myself myself noting "in the King who had six wives discussion that [you have] explained extensively why such redirects are a good thing and how". I am very willing to retract this statement if I am proven wrong. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Eh? I mean, will note is present tense not past tense.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Whilst he was the only one (for now at least), seems implausible search term. Also technically he wasn't British King, as the Kingdom of Great Britain didn't exist until 1707 (he was King of England, Scotland and Ireland) Joseph2302 (talk) 17:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete exclusively per Joseph2302, it's an incorrect redirect. For the record, Newyorkbrad's arguments in the past discussion come from a user who, despite being a highly knowledgeable and highly respected user, clearly does not understand "the way the redirect system usually works", which is that it exists only "to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read" (from the lede of the relevant policy), which means it "usually works" by providing information to readers via whatever method they choose to look for it. These "we're not a search engine" arguments are malicious to readers for no good reason. Besides Joseph2302, nobody else here has actually put forward an argument for deletion (as in, one of the bullets listed under WP:RFD#DELETE): the page's origin is not an argument for deletion unless WP:G5 applies, which it clearly does not. We can have a constructive discussion about the utility of the redirect absent the personal attacks against the page's creator, and if you're just here to raise drama about that, please go do something else. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    • An appeal to precedent for a very similar redirect in a discussion that resulted in deletion is in fact an argument for deletion. That you disagree with the precedent does not negate that. Every !vote need not always reference Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons in order to be a valid !vote. For what it's worth, "incorrect redirect" is not a bullet listed under WP:RFD#DELETE (c.f. {{R from incorrect term}}). -- Tavix (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
      Any of 2, 5, or 8 could apply to harmfully incorrect redirect titles, in this case that, as Joseph2302 pointed out, there are no British kings known to have been beheaded; Charles was Scottish by birth (I think) and was king of England and Ireland, not any of the crowns known as British. It could be said that the title is valid anyway since British and English are easily confused, but I don't see that anyone's made that argument.
      The rest of this side discussion is of course about a different redirect from this one, for anyone else reading and confused by two editors who both !voted delete arguing with each other about it. You're correct about precedent but this precedent in particular is an example of both false authority and confirmation bias: Newyorkbrad's comments are being taken as an authoritative and infallible interpretation of policy by those who already agreed with that position, but his comments are one editor's opinion, and one which is provably wrong by a simple reading of the actual written policy. If there's a relevant precedent, it's that redirects that help readers find information should be kept, per WP:RPURPOSE and WP:RFD#KEEP numbers 3 and 5 which, rather than being one opinion, represent the consensus of years of community discussion and debate. Consensus can change, but Newyorkbrad's four-year-old opinion is not the test. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 10:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Ultimately most of that is irrelevant because redirects do not have to be technically correct - if editors are searching for this content using this search term (or a search term that is more similar to this one than the page title), and they are, and it is not otherwise harmful (and despite many assertions nobody has actually provided any reason why it is beyond not liking this style of redirect) then it is a net positive to the encyclopaedia. Without the redirect it becomes harder for readers to find this content, using internal or external search engines, so the project would be harmed by deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Implausible MB 22:44, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why do you consider this redirect, that directly relates to a section of the target article, to be implausible? Thryduulf (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, I mean, obvious keep, right? First of all, we're here to serve the reader, it surely does serve some non-zero number of readers, and it doesn't hurt anyone, and redirects are cheap. What is the upside to deleting it. Don't tell me this rule or that rule. Don't tell me this precedent or that person should know better or the other essay says this. Tell me "Deleting this redirect will enhance the experience of readers searching on this term because _________". Give me something good to go in the blank or go home.
Second of all, we have lots of redirects like this. It is established common practice. "Largest city in the world" is redirect (devolves to List of largest cities). "Fourth President of the United States" is a redirect (devolves to James Madison). "Tallest mountain in the world" is a redirect (devolves to List of mountain peaks by prominence). "Coldest place on earth" is a redirect (devolves to Pole of Cold). "Highest grossing movie" is a redirect (devolves to List of highest-grossing films). "First emperor of china" is a redirect (devolves to Qin Shi Huang). "Book about law" is a redirect (devolves to Law book). And so forth. Isn't this redirect we're talking about pretty similar?
I get that apparently there is some political squabbling here, and some people don't want other people to sit with them at lunch, but I can't keep up with that and don't care. I gather that King who died with a hot poker up the ass was deleted but so? Why double down on one-off mistakes? We're here to serve the reader, and I'm concerned that we are ginning up for a general purge of these types of redirects, and I think that'd be a big problem.
So I'd line to advise the closer to maybe not pay so much attention to politics and factions and counting sides so much but perhaps maybe advising OP and supporters to initate a well-advertised general RfC, before a huge purge of these kinds of redirects goes down. I'd like to see a lot of community input on the general question rather than one-by-one guerrila actions. Herostratus (talk) 02:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to English king who got his head cut off which would be both technically correct and uniquely identifying since Causantín mac Cináeda might have been beheaded, and he's also a British king in the sense that he's a king who ruled in the British isles. If it wasn't non-uniquely identifying, I don't think having the current title would be an issue, since British is used so often to just refer to anything related to the British isles or interchangeably with English, even if from a legal, political standpoint it should only be applied for post-1707, Kingdom of Great Britain things. Charles I even minted coins that styled himself as "King of Great Britain" (see photo: here). I disagree with the delete !votes on plausibility, helpfulness for the reader, WP:POINT, etc. for the same reasons I gave in the RFD below, only in this case the beheading is not disputed and much more famous.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Why does English have silent letters[edit]

  • Why does English have silent letters → Phonological history of English consonant clusters  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete, since we are not a Q and A site. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:25, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep, seems like a useful redirect to a page with a jargonish title from a potential search term with broader understandability. CapitalSasha ~ talk 03:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep a very useful search term that takes people to the very-differently titled page that contains the content they are looking for. Not ambiguous with anything else or otherwise harmful. Thryduulf (talk) 03:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I am afraid that these questions should be taken to Google or Reddit, not Wikipedia. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Why? After all, Wikipedia often provides the much more sourced and comprehensive answer.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE. Questions are not suitable redirects. ― Tartan357 Talk 04:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep useful, cheap, unambiguous, and the essay WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE links to says nothing about this type of redirect. Elli (talk | contribs) 06:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The target of WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE has been changed; it used to refer to a now-deleted essay in User:NotReallySoroka's userspace that was about this type of redirect. It was changed by them though, so not sure what's going on. CapitalSasha ~ talk 13:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as a genuinely useful redirect. That Wikipedia is not Google is a different point entirely. --bonadea contributions talk 08:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. This is an abstract topic, so it may be hard for someone to try to find this content without using question-like phrasing. The target explains this well, and this is in no way ambiguous, so I don't see anything wrong here. -- Tavix (talk) 11:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete WP:NOTFAQ, Wikipedia is not a faq. This is a line in a faw. The proper search term would be Silent letters in the English language and not this title. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:NOTFAQ is about article content not redirects. Silent letters in the English language is also a useful search term and should be created, it is not relevant to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 19:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Pointiness in action, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 20:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC) OK, sorry. Although this comment was made before it was created, my accusation of pointiness is to the fact that T deliberately arguing something is useful immediately after another argued that it is not. I do think that the redirect itself is good! NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    ...Thryduulf didn't even create that (very very useful) redirect. And besides, it points to a different target – because it is a whole different search term from this redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    But the IP was arguing that that redirect was useful rather than this one? And sorry, even if that was the case, how is refuting an argument constructively considered disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate a point?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. What are "proper search terms"? Redirects are meant to aid in navigation, and the vast majority of readers won't care about ill-founded principles like that. Especially given such a principle is absolutely useless. Aside from the utter harmlessness of such redirects, the delete rationales are inherently flawed. As a matter of fact, questions are suitable redirects because Wikipedia is a Q&A site. Readers go to Wikipedia more often than not to answer questions of various kinds. As such, Wikipedia serves as an encyclopedic Q&A site. This redirect is a very normal and common search term. Redirects like this one are plausible, correct, helpful, and harmless. So why delete them?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per J947. Not a convoluted search term and takes readers to relevant information. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 03:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep This redirect is only 0.01¢. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The "why" is ambiguous. Phonological history of English consonant clusters only addresses "why?" in the sense of "how did silent letters arise historically?" rather than "what function do they serve?" (that is, cause vs. purpose). The latter is at least as likely to be what readers are looking for. The redirect addresses the topic only indirectly and incompletely in other ways as well: The target is only about consonant clusters, but many silent letters are vowels (such as silent e) or are consonants not in clusters. And it is focused on phonology, but "Why does English have silent letters" is focused on orthography. So the redirect has a high likelihood of causing confusion/surprise. (Also, I'll just comment that too much of the discussion has been on high-level generalities rather than the actual case at hand.) Adumbrativus (talk) 05:07, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

King killed by a red hot poker[edit]

  • King killed by a red hot poker → Edward II of England  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  1. We are not a search engine. Even if we are, the {{R from search term}} was not present as of now.
  2. King Edward II's articles states, at Edward II of England#Controversy, that it is not confirmed whether he indeed died from a poker; in relation to this rumour the section states, "Most historians now dismiss this account of Edward's death, querying the logic in his captors murdering him in such an easily detectable fashion."
  3. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass closed as delete

NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep if someone is searching for this term (which I evidently was) they will learn that it's (probably) not true so {{R from misnomer}} directly applies there. More generally it's a useful search term that takes readers to exactly the content they are looking for without having to navigate unpredictable search results that are sometimes several clicks away. It's unambiguous, harmless and useful so there is no justification for deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 03:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Convenience to you does not necessarily equal convenience to the Community; just because you find this redirect helpful, doesn't mean that everyone will agree with you. For me it would be most convenient if Soroka is redirected to Mike, but, oh well... NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: This matter has clearly been settled already. ― Tartan357 Talk 04:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    That discussion was significantly about the specific phrasing used and is not applicable to this redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    But User:Newyorkbrad's point that "we don't usually create redirects by describing the article subject, especially where the description could be worded in dozens of ways" still stands. While he did give exceptions:
  1. His argument did not focus on how you word King Edward's rumour; rather, he was arguing against creating redirects from description. I believe that one description reworded does not make it no longer a description.
  2. Quoting NYB: "If we were to create redirects based on such descriptions, their number would be virtually unlimited."
NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Meets none of the purposes at Wikipedia:Redirect#Purposes of redirects, also clearly in contravention and deliberate circumvention of the prior deletion discussion. DrKay (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous RfD; clearly WP:POINTY creation. -- Tavix (talk) 11:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Thyrduulf, as an administrator, you should know better than to violate WP:POINT like you did in creating this redirect. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @DrKay: I created the redirect as a useful search term that was not present. There was nothing pointy happening at all, and I would appreciate a bit more AGF to be honest. Thryduulf (talk) 19:10, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    The British King who got his head cut off would like to say hi. As for WP:AGF, I was called a "waste of time" over Talk:Michael John Graydon Soroka, thus I understand your sentiments. However, there is a huge difference between a lurker not knowing stuff (me) and an admin, CU, OS, and former arbitrator not knowing stuff. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Thryduulf: You have participated in the discussion that resulted in King who died with a hot poker up the ass being deleted, and you replied to the points that NYB made there. I believe that you must have seen his argument that there would be infinite redirects if we make descriptions into redirects, no? If I were you, I would have recused in not creating its redirect (or do it after consensus). Again, we don't redirect Atlanta Braves Opening Day Starter, 2021 to Max Fried for a reason. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I saw NYB's comments and I, and others, disagreed with them. The rationale for creation was explained there and has been explained since. If you think Atlanta Braves Opening Day Starter, 2021 is a useful search term that people are going to be looking up in an encyclopaedia (I have no opinion, I don't know enough about the topic) and which the search engine will not adequately deal with (for those that manage to get results) then absolutely it should be created as a redirect. There is no benefit to the encyclopaedia in making it harder for people to find the content they are looking for because some people happen to dislike the way they looked for it. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not a realistic search term, especially when it's disputed whether it actually happened. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Pinging the participants of that related discussion who have not commented here (excluding one editor who has indicated they have redired) @Neveselbert, Ruslik0, Ivanvector, Plantdrew, Patar knight, Ravenswing, Newyorkbrad, and Mike Christie:. Thryduulf (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Oh for crying out loud. Aside from that it's still an implausible redirect, Newyorkbrad's cogent rationale four years ago remains. The scope for infinite similar redirects is insane. President who was scared by a killer bunny? Guy who blew his political career up driving off a bridge? Olympic ski jumper who was a worldwide joke? Wikipedia is not Quora, Google or Reddit, thanks. Ravenswing 20:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Firstly this is a WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, but if those are search terms that are going to help readers find the content they are looking for (I don't know) then they should be created: we should have every redirect where the utility outweighs the harm and should not have any where the harm outweighs the utility, how many redirects that is could not be more irrelevant. Thryduulf (talk) 22:33, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Thanks for the ping. "The scope for infinite similar redirects is insane"; I agree. As it says at WP:Wikipedia is not Google: "whatever you want to find can be found with a web search engine". That's not what our redirects are for, as far as I can see. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:Wikipedia is not Google is an essay about article content, it is irrelevant to redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 22:34, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • (responding to ping) Delete per nom and others. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf. As pointed out above, there's a lot of other redirects like this one that haven't been created but should be. So we've got a long way to go yet in making the encyclopedia navigationally helpful. Readers who searched this up had heard this theory but forgot the name of a king and evidently wanted it. This redirect helped in that regard. So I've proven that this redirect is helpful. Does anyone disagree? No? Okay. So currently it looks like this redirect is helpful. To overturn that balance, it has to be proven that this redirect is harmful. Does anyone have any ideas on how this redirect is harmful in a way that outweighs the helpfulness described above? Because I don't have any.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    It might perpetuate the myth that KEII died from the spade. Also, keeping it in fosters pointiness (it in itself isn't bad, but manifestation in this way is). NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    If the myth thing is a problem, then just target the redirect to the section where it is discussed as untrue (Edward II of England#Controversies). And a creation isn't pointy in a bad way unless it is detrimental to the encyclopedia.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict × 2) I mean it's in the tile of WP:POINT: do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Nothing about do not help Wikipedia to illustrate a point – which isn't what Thryduulf did anyway, but that's another point and as such is besides the point. :) WP:NOTPOINTy is what applies, at the very most.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Please explain how keeping a redirect that educates people about the myth perpetuates it? I have no idea what your second sentence is trying to say. Thryduulf (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I believe that you did not have the Community in mind when you have created this redirect, a sentiment shared by several people in accusing that you are pointy. If we keep that, it would just send out the signal that disruptive pointiness is condoned. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I created the redirect for the benefit of the readers of the encyclopaedia by making it easier for them to find the content they are looking for when using a search term that many of them are likely to use. Even if the creation was pointy (which it wasn't) that is completely irrelevant - if the redirect is helpful (which it is) it should be kept regardless of why it was created, if the redirect is unhelpful (for which there is no evidence) then it should be deleted regardless of why it was created. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) I think they're saying that this should be deleted because they view its creation as WP:POINTY, which paradoxically is probably in itself pointy behaviour. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    ...which is probably an incorrect viewpoint anyhow considering WP:NOTPOINTy. So... advocating for minor disruption of Wikipedia to illustrate an incorrect point around pointiness? Cool.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf, per WP:RFD#K5 (it's clearly useful) and per WP:HOAX (obviously a notable hoax). The title is appropriate: this is an historic legend, the target explains its origin and historicity, and explains that it's likely false. The arguments in favor of deletion have failed to demonstrate why it's beneficial to the reader to make this information more difficult to locate, nor why their personal distaste outweighs function. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'm generally not a fan of factoid redirects, as it's trivial to come up with dozens of them and let their creation get out of control, but this is a well known myth that is discussed in the target article. Speculations about why the redirect were created are not a reason to delete it, we evaluate redirects on their merits and utility. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf, it is actually a useful search term. Getting a bit tired of seeing not Google arguments, redirects help users get to the content they are looking for. Why would intentionally make it more difficult. I don't see that this particular instance opens the door for more meaningless trivia style redirects. Polyamorph (talk) 19:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete unless a purpose can be justified per WP:RPURPOSE. 0, 1 and 2 (sometimes 3) views every few months from the time it was created four years back, does not justify use as a search term. Jay (talk) 21:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    There are fundamentally only two purposes for redirects, one is to maintain attribution, the other is to help readers find content they are looking for. Everything at WP:RPURPOSE is just an example (and note the list is explicitly not comprehensive) of one of those purposes. As repeatedly explained this redirect helps readers find content they are looking for and causes absolutely no harm whatsoever, so deletion would be harmful for no benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 21:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's not used as a search term, as shown by the page views: 0 last month. And even if it were, editors would still be directed to this article: [37][38][39]. DrKay (talk) 06:41, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    The existence of this redirect enables those who use the internal search engine with this or similar terms to find the article (experience shows that without it the results will extremely unlikely be at all useful) and is also at least part of the reason why the external search engines know to connect the search term with our article. Only people who use the exact search term and click via the redirect get recorded in the statistics for the redirect. Even if it is just 3 people a month on average who find this helpful, why is that problematic? That's three people a month who have found the content they are looking for that otherwise would not have done. We don't delete articles that are only read a handful of times a month because they don't help enough people, and there are no downsides to keeping the redirect (other than a few people disliking it). Thryduulf (talk) 11:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    There are 20 cases listed at WP:RPURPOSE and aiding our basic search engine is not one of them. Since you feel very strongly about this and see this coming under the broad generalization of what a redirect is, I would suggest you bring this up at the Redirect guideline page and get the support there. Rfd would not be the appropriate forum to decide on exceptions. Jay (talk) 19:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    The lead of Wikipedia:Redirect says "Redirects are used to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read" I'm not sure how a redirect that helps people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read can be contrary to that? How is assisting the search engine anything other than "help[ing] people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read"?
    Further, the introduction to WP:RPURPOSE says "Reasons for creating and maintaining redirects include:" (emphasis mine) i.e. the list does not contain every situation in which a redirect is appropriate, therefore there is no need for an exception. You are correct that I feel strongly about this - why would I not when I am seeing experienced Wikipedians arguing to harm the project by making it harder for readers to find the content they are looking for? Thryduulf (talk) 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:RPURPOSE is an inclusive list and not an exclusive list. In fact, I think that 17 of those 20 reasons fall under aiding our basic search engine. After all, if it was perfect (and by that I mean impossibly perfect), we by and large wouldn't need redirects. Anyhow, I think that the redirect falls under an alternative name for the target, and describing a subtopic of the target article. And given that we're talking about guidelines here, RHARMFUL (Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones) and K4 apply to this redirect as reasons to keep it.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    By search engine capabilities, what I had in mind was using tag words or understanding search text in the form of questions. Those are what a search engine should do, and not be dependent on editors creating pages with different combinations of questioning text. Not one of the 20 points suggested that redirects can also be of this kind that will help a reader to his target. Again, Rfd is not the place for debate, the Wikipedia talk:Redirect is. Jay (talk) 05:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    Look, RPURPOSE is explanatory. It says nothing about RfD or deleting redirects. You're selectively ignoring other parts of the guideline, for example, the nutshell:

    Redirects aid navigation and searching by allowing a page to be reached under alternative titles

    What about the lead?

    Redirects are used to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read

    Maybe a guideline around the deletion of redirects is more appropriate than a explanatory section? RHARMFUL:

    Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones

    This redirect isn't harmful or recent. But it most definitely is helpful. K5:

    Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways.

    Hey, why not throw K3 in there?

    They aid searches on certain terms

    But that isn't the most important consideration around evaluating the merits of redirects. This is: Would deleting this redirect be beneficial to the encyclopedia? I'm yet to see an answer of no yes.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as a useful redirect for people whose recall is not perfect. I'm not an expert in English medieval history, but I've certainly heard the story, and if I was pushed I'd probably remember that it was about the Edward who was friendly with Piers Gaveston, but I'd only be able to guess about which number Edward he was. This redirect leads me to the correct content. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Ravenswing and others. MB 22:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. We're here to serve the reader. Remember her? All the other stuff about this POINTy and that rule and the other opinion or whatever is secondary to that. I've heard literally nothing in all the above about the reader. The person searching on the string. That's maybe kind of an indication that we're asking the wrong questions here. Herostratus (talk) 03:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep or possibly Refine to Edward_II_of_England#Controversies. I stand by my comment in the prior RfD. Edward II's death is one of the more famous deaths of a British monarch (e.g. Times Higher Education calling it "arguably the most famous in English Royal History" [40]). We can't expect people to recall perfectly who this applied to. As Ivanvector showed in the previous RFD, redirects like this help Wikipedia's internal search function and therefore help readers reach the pages they want, which besides legal attribution requirements, is the primary purpose of redirects (see WP:RFD#K3). The usage and the historical context is also enough to pass WP:RFD#K5. If we want to point to a specific entry at the non-exhaustive WP:POFR, I would argue that this is the less historically-knowledgeable person's version of something like Historicity of Edward II's alleged death by red-hot poker iron or Historiography on method of execution for Edward II of England, which would both be valid redirects from subtopics. I also want to briefly address some of the deletion arguments:
  1. Search engine/opening the floodgates: It's possible to allow some redirects that look like search engine queries referencing reasonably well-known facts such as Edward II's death and while disallowing search engine queries that are so obscure that they would have no utility (e.g. King who denied responsibility for his troops hanging a French sergeant near Agenais, referencing Edward II of England#War with France). Neither the current target of WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE (an essay targeted at linkspammers), nor the proposed target at that shortcut's RFD apply here. This is not some unsourced claim of no encyclopedic value, but something to which the Edward II article, an FA, devotes an [[[Edward_II_of_England#Controversies|entire paragraph and a long explanatory note]] as part of its in-depth coverage of his death. Having this redirect, which is helpful both directly to those readers who use it, or indirectly by helping Wikipedia's internal search engine, doesn't mean that people will go out of their way to create "infinite" unhelpful redirects.
  2. It probably didn't happen: Whether something is factually true or not doesn't matter in terms of having a redirect if there is reliable, sourced encyclopedic content about it, which which there in this case. We have tons of articles on probably apocryphal stories and crazy conspiracy theories all over Wikipedia (e.g. King Canute and the tide, Possible monorchism of Adolf Hitler, 9/11 conspiracy theories) and they all get appropriate redirects. We're not here to litigate the truth of the claim made by the redirect, but the merits of having the redirect.
  3. WP:POINT: This redirect seems to be a good-faith attempt to address the concerns raised at the prior RfD, so it wouldn't fall under POINT, which only applies when a user applies existing consensus, policy, or guidelines that they disagree with in bad-faith manner to prove their "point". The RFD was a close 6-5 split and one of the delete !votes explicitly cited the use of "ass" as reason for why they preferred deletion. This redirect removes that word – a distinction recognized when a G4 speedy deletion was declined – and shortens the search phrase. Both of these changes make it a more plausible search term. Based on my experience with Thryduulf, they truly do have a broader and more liberal viewpoint of what can be a good redirect. Even if this was a POINTy creation, a POINT violation in and of itself is not a valid reason for deletion, and the redirect should be judged on its own merits. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:25, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Urf. I hate these slippery-slope opening-the-floodgates arguments. "If you allow execution for murder, next we'll be executing jaywalkers." "If you allow abortion, next we'll be killing three-year-olds". No, because we have the sense that God gave sheep and are able to figure out proper boundaries and cutoffs for things. There are times when slippery-slope arguments are appropriate, but it's rare. And this isn't one of those times. Herostratus (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Mu I guess we should have a disambiguation page for poker in the rear to help readers who might be searching for either King Edward's alleged death, a particular double entendre ("liquor up front, poker in the rear"), or the subtitle of a musical album based on the double entendre. Readers might enter "poker in the rear" in Wikipedia's search, so we should help them find the article they want (and Edward's death doesn't show up in that search currently). Plantdrew (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

State Leader of Myanmar[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#State Leader of Myanmar

Tanten[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Tanten

Hamza Division[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy keep

April 20[edit]

British King who abdicated[edit]

  • British King who abdicated → Edward VIII  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete since Edward II and Richard II both abdicated too, and they are all from England that can be called "Britain" casually. No comment on the Kings' reign, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep I don't remember creating this, but I presume I did so because I was using this search term to try and find Edward VIII when not being able to remember their name (or someone else mentioned doing so). Neither Richard II nor Edward II were British kings, and their abdication is not the most notable feature of their reign meaning that even if we regard this search term as actually (rather than just theoretically) ambiguous, Edward VIII is clearly the primary topic. Googling for the term (without quotes but excluding Wikipedia) backs that up - every single result on the first 4 pages is about Edward VIII as are all but the second last on page 5 and all but the 3rd and 6th results on page 6. Repeating the search with quotes and again excluding Wikipedia Google shows me 80 results, all 80 of which are about Edward VIII (although one did suggest he abdicated in 1894, actually the year of his birth). I've not found any other evidence of people referring to either of the monarchs of England by this term either, so see no justification for deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 00:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, this is not the kind of redirect we should be encouraging. James II and VII was effectively a British king who abdicated (he's listed at List of monarchs who abdicated and List of English monarchs mentions that by royal proclamation, James styled himself "King of Great Britain".) -- Tavix (talk) 00:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why should we not be encouraging redirects from search terms people (59 last year for example) use to find Wikipedia articles? If people are using this term to refer to multiple monarchs then it should be redirected to a list or become a disambiguation page, however all the evidence shows that there is only one person people who use this are likely to be looking for so, at most, a hatnote is justified. There is absolutely no justification for deletion here. Thryduulf (talk) 00:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as an unambiguously question-like redirect which is not helpful - WP:PANDORA - and which, per the above, is an inaccurate recentism. Ignoring the redirect, a user who input the string into the search function would end up with links to pages like Abdication of Edward VIII; List of monarchs who abdicated and List of monarchs who lost their thrones in the 20th century ([41]), so this doesn't help anyway... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    It is, as you correctly note, unambiguous in practice (per all the evidence I presented above) and so demonstrably helpful. WP:PANDORA is nonsense bordering on harmful misinformation (redirects are judged only on their own merits, the existence or non-existence of one redirect implies nothing about the suitability of another - see WP:OTHERSTUFF). Search results are always inferior to a direct link as they are not predictable and, depending on the method and device used to navigate and their account status, may be multiple clicks away from where a user arrives after using the search term. Thryduulf (talk) 02:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    You must have misunderstood what I meant per "unambiguous". Fixed. And having a question (which this basically is) as a redirect is not helpful. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 02:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why' is having such redirects unhelpful when they demonstrably help people find the article they are looking for? {{R from search term}} exists and explicitly covers redirects from related words or phrases. Simply being "question-like" (and this is not unambiguously so) is not a reason to delete a redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 02:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I, regrettably, disagree with your liberal stance on such terms. A sea of search words are not helpful and not normal (do we redirect Atlanta Braves Opening Day Starter, 2021 to Max Fried)? We are not a search engine, NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 02:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Chill. It's just an essay, no more powerful than my WP:FRIED or WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 02:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Nominator note: King who died with a hot poker up the ass was deleted per User:Newyorkbrad's reasoning at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. It redirects to King Edward II, not VIII, but NYB did lay out some good reasons that I echo. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 04:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Meets none of the purposes at Wikipedia:Redirect#Purposes of redirects. DrKay (talk) 06:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per User:Tavix. Jay (talk) 20:33, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

. LORD PALMERSTON[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Tecumseh Sherman[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Henry Bannerman[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Henry Asquith[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Incompetent valves[edit]

  • Incompetent valves → Heart valve  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Incompetent valve → Heart valve  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] added by 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Valvular incompetence → Valvular heart disease  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] added by 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't believe that this specific term is mentioned at the target.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  08:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. Incompetent valves, and Incompetent valve, is used to refer to heart valves, and as far as I can see nothing else, although I agree a mention would be useful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:35, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment venous valves can be incompetent [42]; chronic venous insufficiency briefly mentions valvular incompetence too. Out of my depth in this subject area, so I'm not sure what's the best solution here - a mention at Regurgitation (circulation)? 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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Business Information Systems[edit]

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MOS:Naming convention[edit]

  • MOS:Naming convention → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I was looking for Wikipedia:Naming conventions when I entered this; not sure the current target's topic can be called "naming conventions". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Just to give some history: This redirect goes back a long way... there was a time back in the mid 2000s when we talked about articles having a “name”. This caused a lot of confusion because people were not sure whether we were referring to the name of the subject or the “name” of of the article (not always the same). We realized that we needed to separate these two concepts better, by shifting terminology... we decided to stop talking about an article’s NAME, and instead talk about an article’s TITLE.
So... we changed our WP:Naming conventions guideline (which mostly talked about how to “name” an article) to WP:Article titles (which was soon promoted to Policy status).
However, there were a few parts of the old WP:Naming conventions guideline that dealt with how to present the subject’s name beyond an article title, (such as whether to present nicknames in quotes or parentheses). These were primarily STYLE issues, so we hived these bits off, and created a separate MOS:Naming convention guideline to deal with these issues.
Hope this history helps clarify why the various policies and guidelines are (currently) entitled as they are, why the various redirects exist, and why they (currently) point where they do.
I spell it out not to support or object to any new proposals, but merely to inform the discussion. Blueboar (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
@Blueboar This makes sense to me, though I am still not sure if the target is really about "naming". I guess the hatnote which is already present at the target does help, and my search using "MOS:" instead of "WP:", which was my motivation for this nomination, was a bit unfortunate. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the explanation, Blueboar. Since WP:Naming conventions refers to article titles, we could align this with MOS:TITLES and retarget it to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles. - Eureka Lott 14:42, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
     Comment: @EurekaLott This is the current target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Whoops, apologies for being oblivious. I guess that means I'm fine with keeping this as-is. - Eureka Lott 16:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Article titles. Probably what people are looking for when they typed this in. SCP-053 (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment Someone seems to have pinged me here, althought I can't see their comment. SCP-053 (talk) 02:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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UNC-R[edit]

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Chees[edit]

  • Chees → Cheese  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Recognising that April Fools is now over and that this is a proper RfD, this redirect should be deleted. It's tagged as a misspelling but it could refer to cheese, chess, cheers, etc. An alternative could be to retarget to Cheez but I prefer deletion. Anarchyte (talk • work) 05:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

  • There's also the Chees (disambiguation) redirect, that might be worth bundling here. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Chee; the surname can have a plural, not sure if the others can, but any other significant uses can be mentioned there. Peter James (talk) 13:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Chee, for the same reason as Peter James. Kokopelli7309 (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. None of the entries at Chee naturally take a plural. As a typo, too ambiguous to be useful. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment both the given name and the surname nautrally take plural forms. Like "keeping up with the Joneses" uses the plural form for "Jones", a surname. "there are 3 Toms in class" takes the plural for "Tom", a given name. Thus the given name and surname "Chee" can use "Chees" as plural. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 08:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
      Yes, but Chee just has links for Chee (surname) or Chee (given name), rather than a list of names that could be plural. I guess searchers could be seeking a list of people with the name, which would be plural because there are multiple such people with articles. In such a case it seems like a pretty week search term if that's what was really being sought, which seems unlikely, and will bring the searcher to a dab page where none of the entries can be plural and they still have to choose given name or surname. So search results seem better here to me, given the potential that it could just be a typo as discussed above. There seems to be no consistent way to handle plurals of names. For example Nicks targets Nix (surname) rather than Nick or Nick (disambiguation) (though there is a hatnote). Joneses targets The Joneses and not Jones or any of its entries. (These could probably benefit from RfDs too, as I'm not sure their current targets are best.) Mdewman6 (talk) 01:39, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete or disambiguate unorthodoxly as ambiguous. The vast majority of readers finding this redirect will not be looking for Chee and as such, a retarget there would be suboptimal in my opinion. Cheese and chess are likely what most readers are looking for. J947's public account 23:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep a google search shows that "cheese" is what the vast majority of people using this word on the internet mean. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The target is a disambiguation page. It is supposed to be ambiguous. The disambiguation page lists topics that use the plural form "Chees" -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
      • It currently is not. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Sorry, my error. It should target the disambiguation page, since it is ambiguous. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Glizzy[edit]

  • Glizzy → Shy Glizzy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Redirect to hot dog. Glizzy is a regional dialectical synonym of hot dog, and people searching for it would not be expecting the rapper. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

it’s not currently mentioned at all at the proposed target so is there any evidence that people typing Glizzy would be more likely looking up hot dogs?--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I also noticed that at one point Glizzy was a dab page where it was also said to be a term for a Glock and that article doesn’t mention the term either. Basically, we need more evidence.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
The answer to that is simply. Yes. The terms are related and it's slang that originates in the Washington DC and Maryland area. A simple search brings up multiple references to the term on articles, and even youtube videos from area residents. Interestingly enough, it the term is also referenced on the Wiktionary glizzy as a hot dog reference, as well as a reference to the rapper, AND the gun. The term may in fact originate from said rapper or involve him in some way. 216.9.28.77 (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
This is clearly on odd situation, in that we have three different meanings, but only one of them is actually mentioned in an article. Redirecting it to an article that does not use the term is not a good solution. Perhaps using WP:HATNOTEs on the article on the person is the correct answer? Something like maybe? Beeblebrox (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The hatnote solution might look a little messy. Why not restore the DAB? BlackholeWA (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Please don't use a hatnote to direct a reader to an article where the term isn't mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
We do that all the time with informal nicknames like this. It's certainly preferable to a redirect that does the same. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Do we? Where? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Hot wiener. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why? I don't see the connection with Rhode Island at all. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Beeblebrox: Because the infobox says it's an alternative name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    Which was just randomly added in October of last year without a source [43]. I'm not sure that's enough. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:23, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep and hatnote to wikt:glizzy. As a slang term it has multiple meanings, so we should not retarget it to just one of those meanings; nor is it suitable for a disambiguation page, since none of glock, hot dog, nor penis meet WP:DABMENTION. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 05:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wet tar[edit]

  • Wet tar → Asphalt concrete  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Would these be better targeting Asphalt or Tar? although this is used as a road sign after Asphalt concrete has been laid it's referring to the asphalt component of the mix. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. I think it's fine as it is: the article has sufficient explanation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete. I may be underestimating its value as a term someone would search for (it seems to be more in use in Australia than other places), but I don't see any links actually using this phrase. If it's kept, it should stay pointing to asphalt concrete or maybe redirect to sealcoat. Looking at how it's used, it seems to be more about sealcoats, chipseals, and/or tackcoats than about asphalt concrete, but pointing to just asphalt would be going too far back up the production chain and tar is the wrong product. Carter (talk) 07:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Tar. The term is also used for roofing so we have go broader (and more literal) than roads. -- Tavix (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep or disambiguate. Ambiguous term, but it does seem that in a plurality of cases it is in reference to the current target, even though the words "wet" or "tar" do not occur in the article(!). Ideally would be disambiguated if someone wanted to take that on at some point. Deletion to rely on search results doesn't seem right, as searchers seeking the current target would be out of luck. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Although there is no mention of "wet", there is mention of "liquid", "dissolve", "water", etc., in the target. A Google search gives plenty of images of caution sign-boards saying "wet tar". Jay (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

List of films set in ancient Greece[edit]

  • List of films set in ancient Greece → Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great#Film  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Alexander the Great ≠ Ancient Greece. Off the top of my head, Jason and the Argonauts (1963 film), Hercules (1997 film), and 300 (film) are all set in Ancient Greece and have nothing to do with Alexander. A list article could probably be created at this title, but until then this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 17:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete so as to encourage the creation of such a list. --NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 17:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete nonsensical redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Leaning delete per above, though an XNR to Category:Films set in ancient Greece would also be an option. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to the category where people using this search term will find content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Fiction set in Ancient Greece#Films is also a suitable target. Thryduulf (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to encourage article creation. This is a plenty viable list topic -- I might even draft one myself. Having it either as a redirect to something unrelated or an XNR seems an inferior solution. Vaticidalprophet 00:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Fiction set in ancient Greece#Films as a temporary measure until a standalone article is created. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 03:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget as the guy who created this redirection I could for some reaon not think of any films set in accent greece beside the ones featuring Alexander the Great now it has been pointed out as there of course more films set in Accent Greece and don't feture Alexander then the redirection should be retargeted to Fiction set in ancient Greece#Films or Category:Films set in ancient Greece as previous comment mentions 17:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)DoctorHver (talk)
  • Delete to encourage article creation, or (second choice) retarget to the category. —Kusma (t·c) 09:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Add it to WP:Requested articles. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:00, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Melissa Cross[edit]

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North American winter[edit]

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The Magic Diner[edit]

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Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd[edit]

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The world's littlest scyscraper[edit]

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Bharat (place)[edit]

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TWD[edit]

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Pseudoscience in Pakistan[edit]

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2021–22 European Super League[edit]

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Wikipedia:Textbook[edit]

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Richard Okorogheye[edit]

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KGRR(Dubuque, IA radio station)[edit]

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Creeper (Minecraft) 2[edit]

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P-I[edit]

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Kinnies[edit]

  • Kinnies → Otherkin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target. An internet search suggests that this term is primarily used to denote affinity for fictional characters in fandom communities. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete, it's probably a nickname, but not a notable one if sources don't mention it.--Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email) 19:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, see this revision for source Yitz (talk) 23:06, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep. "Kinnie" is a nickname for members of the otherkin community. BlackholeWA (talk) 11:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment @Yitzilitt: would you mind restoring the reference and a mention of kinnie? -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm not sure what the proper protocol is for removing the deletion discussion link. Yitz (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
  • 72.187.142.113 (talk · contribs) claimed it was misinforpation, but you supplied a reference, so the term "kinnie" could be supported without the other commentary, as a term used for self-ID. The practise of "kinning" though doesn't seem to be specific to "otherkin", as other topics can use the same term to mean similar things (treating others (non-relatives) as kin). So I'd suggest just adding that "kinnie" with the ref. That would solve this RFD problem. Though "Kinnies" is also the plural of "Kinnie", an alternate form of "Kenny", so perhaps pointing it to the disambiguation page would solve that issue Kinnie (disambiguation) -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 13:53, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Kinnie (disambiguation), I do not think there is a primary topic. -- Tavix (talk) 21:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep. Of the other entries at Kinnie (disambiguation), only the beverage Kinnie has any likelihood of being pluralized, but "Kinnies" maltese gets all of 5,000 hits. Second choice retarget per Tavix. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 10:12, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Tamzin. Synonyms are the most acceptable type of redirect without mention IMO. It's fairly easy to see how this is derived, so I'm not bothered by its not being explicitly used. --BDD (talk) 15:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Big (M|m)edia[edit]

  • Big media → Media conglomerate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Big Media → Concentration of media ownership  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

These redirects should target the same place. Note that both redirects have an old article in their history.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:01, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Convert Big Media to a disambig page and redirect Big media to Big Media since both target articles are a good choice. It is conventional to treat Big Oil, Big Tobacco etc as proper nouns so the capital M should be preferred User:GKFXtalk 20:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
I absolutely agree with you about the name, since it was parallelism with the "Big Tech" article that inspired me make the make the "Big Media" redirect. In thinking about a disambiguation page, it occurs to me that "Concentration of media ownership" and "Media conglomerate" aren't clearly distinctive topics. I made a suggestion to merge to merge the two articles at Talk:Concentration of media ownership#Merge with "Media conglomerate"?. -- RobLa (talk) 05:44, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict)Disambiguate. This could sensibly taget a number of articles, e.g. Media conglomerate, Concentration of media ownership, Mainstream media and Big Media Publishers, possibly also Mass media. I'm not seeing a primary topic as usage seems to be largely informal. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 20:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to "Concentration of media ownership". SCP-053 (talk) 02:16, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Disambiguate per consensus here: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 12#Iron disulfide redirects. What we have here is a very similar situation to that, but less messy. InvalidOStalk 14:32, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Corporate media[edit]

  • Corporate media → Media conglomerate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 27 § Corporate media – procedural close

I think we should have another discussion about this. The first RfD closed with preference to send the recently-redirected article to AfD. The AfD closed as delete, but a few days later, the redirect was re-created. So here we are again. Last time the redirect was targeted to concentration of media ownership, this time it is targeted to media conglomerate. I think this target is better than the last one, but still not "right" IMO. My opinion is that Wikipedia should have something on the topic, whether a redirect, dab page, or stub. I might be leaning towards a dab page.

As an aside, I'm not comfortable with how this situation was procedurally handled. I think that it would have been better to at first discuss the merits of the redirect at RfD and if a consensus to delete occurred, it would be sent to AfD. That said, the old article due to its importance probably should've been discussed at AfD. I don't know really, but it seems wrong to end up back at RfD again.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 19:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I created this redirect today. As the deleted article was apparently very old I think it is important to put something at that title, and the current target seemed to be the best of two options discussed at the AfD. A disambiguation page would also be an excellent idea. I've got no strong views on the final outcome, just that it shouldn't be left empty. User:GKFXtalk 20:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep "Corporate media" refers to media which is owned by a corporation, and "Media conglomerate seems o be the best title we've got. SCP-053 (talk) 02:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Concentration of media ownership - This more accurately reflects the "corporate media" that I see discussed by politicians and reliable sources. Jdcomix (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Would Public relations be a plausible dab entry? If so, disambiguate between concentration of media ownership, media conglomerate and public relations. feminist (talk) 04:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Aqulux, LLC[edit]

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Wikipedia:Mop[edit]

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Charles Lynton[edit]

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All for You (Álbum Janet Jackson)[edit]

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Beit Midrash Har'el[edit]

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Small Forward/Power Forward[edit]

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President Herbert Walker Bush[edit]

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April 18[edit]

President Walker Bush[edit]

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Main shock[edit]

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Ladislaus of Lithuania, Poland, Muscovy and Sweden[edit]

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List of Oman national cricket captains[edit]

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EMU Sportswear[edit]

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Mayoral elections in Worcester, Masachusetts[edit]

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Michael Healy (Oz)[edit]

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Computer game[edit]

  • Computer game → PC game  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

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Redirect computer game to video game, as RSes don't use "computer game" to refer exclusively to PC games, and adjust the leads appropriately. We could get into the nitty-gritty of regional differences but we'd need a RS saying that one is BrE, one is AmE, etc. Popcornfud (talk) 10:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC) (reply) Popcornfud (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Oppose although I agree the terms are confirmed to be interchangeable, I don't believe it is more common than referring to PC games at the moment. I still think having a Computer game be the disambiguation page solves this problem. We don't want the same discussion in the future for the opposite reason.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 12:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Support I acknowledge the change as being more correct in designation than the current manner it's handled, which is on basis of colloquial use as opposed to definition. If the change is not made in the manner suggested by Popcornfud, then, at the very least, I feel a compromise should be made wherein the term redirects to the disambiguation and that the disambiguation should be adjusted to accommodate accordingly. Similar to what TheJoebro64 suggested with a little bit of tweaking. EDIT: I see Dissident93's suggestion -presented below- as the most appropriate course of action currently on the table. Fact Scanner (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Support and simply add a hatnote regarding PC game at the top of the page. No real need to create a disambiguation page if that suffices. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • comment @Dissident93: We wouldn't be creating a new Disambiguation. There already is one that exists because there's already other possible terms that computer game can mean. Computer game (disambiguation) which is why JoeBro64 and I suggested it just be the disambiguation page (and include an entry for video games).Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 12:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Snitches (The Shield)[edit]

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Vasanthi (upcoming film)[edit]

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Nilpotent endomorphism[edit]

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Hugo (programming language)[edit]

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The Flash (2021 film)[edit]

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47th President of the United States[edit]

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Wikipedia:UC[edit]

  • Wikipedia:UC → Wikipedia:WikiProject University of California  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

It should be made a disambiguation, seeing that there are three other pages (Wikipedia:Changing username, Wikipedia:User contributions, and Wikipedia:User categories) that also fits the acronym. DePlume (talk) 06:12, 10 April 2021 (UTC) - edited on 18:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep, longstanding redirect, hatnotes are sufficient. —Kusma (𐍄·𐌺) 14:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I am not debating the worthiness of keeping the redirect. I am debating its target. DePlume (talk) 15:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotReallySoroka (talk • contribs)
      • Yes, I understand that. My thinking is that the shortcut does send people who know what it has been used for in the last 14 years to the right place. People who don't know and think it means "changing username" or "user categories" need an extra click to get to the place they want. If we change to a disambiguation page, nobody gets where they want to go directly (everyone has to do the extra click). Kind of defeats the purpose of a shortcut. —Kusma (𐍄·𐌺) 18:29, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per nom -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Not many uses, and some are intended to link to Wikipedia:User categories. WP:WPUC is unused and could redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject University of California. Peter James (talk) 17:28, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Great minds think alike, NotReallySoroka (talk) 03:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
      • I am actually the requestor. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:11, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Disambiguate per the above. It is generally difficult in the real world for a two-letter acronym to have a primary topic. Why could this not as easily refer to a Wikiproject for the University of Chicago or Ulcerative colitis? Although those don't exist, username changes and user categories, for example, do. BD2412 T 04:08, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Þ̧[edit]

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Accessing Wikipedia[edit]

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HORUS[edit]

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Brilliant brown[edit]

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Halo game[edit]

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Parity Amendment[edit]

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Party rights (Philippines)[edit]

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Category:Wikipedians who participate in the WikiProject Old Norse[edit]

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The Sea Capital[edit]

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ヒノマルクラゲ[edit]

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Julian of Rome[edit]

  • Julian of Rome → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Julian the Blessed → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Julian the Philosopher → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Julian the Hellene → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] (withdrawn)
  • Julianus Imperator → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Julian the Great → Julian (emperor)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

None of these epithets sound legit. A search for "Julian the Philosopher" on Gscholar returns a few results, but (as someone pointed out in the talk page awhile ago) in some of these the phrase seems to simply denote his philosophical activity – thus, a regular qualifier like any other, rather than a proper epithet. "Julian of Rome" sounds like the name of a priest or monk. A search for the more famous "Julian the Apostate" returns infinitely more results than any of these. Avilich (talk) 02:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete Julian of Rome, Julian the Blessed, Julian the Great and Julianus Imperator; Keep Julian the Hellene (maybe) and Julian the Philosopher (certainly). I was perplexed by several references I found to a "Julian of Rome", but it appears to be an error for Pope Julius I. Srnec (talk) 03:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep "Julian the Hellene", no opinion on the others.★Trekker (talk) 13:23, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: to the extent that any of these are likely search terms, they should be kept, even if other phrases are much more common. They should only be deleted if it is highly improbable that anyone would search under them—e.g. if they were the invention of a single person with an agenda to puff up Julian's reputation, and not adopted by any serious academics. "Julian the Blessed" strikes me as that sort of attempt to "counteract" the common title of "Julian the Apostate", which, while admittedly negative, is among the most common names for the subject, past and present, scholarly and otherwise, and, IMO, has lost most of its pejorative force (apart from the most fanatical of religious figures, who rails against apostasy these days?). So really Julian doesn't need a fan club to escape his "bad reputation amongst Christians"—most Christians don't really care that Julian, like all of the emperors before AD 337, was a pagan. Of course, if it's actually used in scholarly literature to refer to Julian, and not merely mentioned in passing, then even "Julian the Blessed" would be an appropriate redirect, but only if it's actually in general (not necessarily common, but not limited to a single source of dubious authority, and a handful of citations to it) use. I doubt that "Julianus Imperator" is a useful redirect, since it's just "Julian Emperor" translated into Latin, and this is English Wikipedia. It would be a reasonable redirect for Vicipaedia, or other Wikis that use Latin orthography for Romans, but we never use forms like this to refer to Julian in English—apart from, perhaps, the title of some chapter in a biography, or the caption of an illustration—but in those cases I still don't think anyone would search under the term. As Srnec suggests, "Julian of Rome" seems fatally vague, and might be better as a redirect for the pope. P Aculeius (talk) 13:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
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  • As the nom I still believe "Julian the Philosopher" is very flimsy and questionable. As is already clarified in Julian's talk page (December 2012), the epithet is quite rare and, when it does appear, it likely denotes Julian as a philosopher (a mundane reference to this occupation) rather than a something he was actually known as. If it ever becomes a common term it could be recreated, but currently it does not seem to be so, either in reliable sources or common usage. Avilich (talk) 20:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep as of April 17 ~18 The simple way to describe Julian is as “Emperor of Rome” or Emperor. There is only one emperor by the name of ‘Julian’ and that is he. From Burgundian Feudalism (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Burgundian Feudalism I am not sure how to apply your argumentation to the redirects at hand. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Its simple to just title the Article as ‘Julian’ (emperor) as most historians tend to not title a ruler as blessed, or any other title if it doesn’t specifically describe the rule of that monarch. With philosopher, does he complete important formats and advancements on philosophy? If not, we usually don’t describe a person with that status in name. Also, when I search up Julian (Emperor) (on Google, Safari, etc...) the first thing I see on the screen is this article. From Burgundian Feudalism (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 01:36, 18 April 2021‎ (UTC)
  • The article is already titled Julian (emperor) incase you're confused. Avilich (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete "of Rome", as it appears to primarily refer to a pope, "the Blessed" due to lack of evidence of use, and Imperator per P Aculeius. Keep others based on some evidence of use in a Google Scholar search. signed, Rosguill talk 21:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • There's noevidence for 'the great' and only very limited for 'the philosopher'. Avilich (talk) 15:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Android S[edit]

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London Buses route 614[edit]

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Does the Flower Bloom?[edit]

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Lexi Rabe[edit]

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Rosen Trap[edit]

  • Rosen Trap → Swindle (chess)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target. Onel5969 TT me 19:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Changed redirect to List of chess traps. to disambiguation page Sun Creator(talk) 09:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Incorrect redirect, as the Rosen Trap is a swindle, not a trap. I'll revert to the original redirect. Maxipups Mamsipupsovich (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Well it is an opening trap. If it's a swindle as well, then maybe it's a disambig? Sun Creator(talk) 08:36, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Just noting that changing a redirect's target while a discussion is ongoing is considered bad practice due to the confusion it can cause. As such, I've reverted the redirect back to its target at the start of the discussion.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 09:05, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
          • Was already in progress of converting to a disambig page, per talk page edit.. Sun Creator(talk) 09:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Personally I think of the phrase "Rosen Trap" as referring exclusively to a Rosen Stalemate Trap, not anything to do with the Englund Gambit. Note that the source linked above is just a mirror of a YouTube video, and should hold no more "weight" than the video itself. This should redirect to Swindle in my opinion. AviationFreak💬 15:21, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep (?) redirect to Swindle (chess) as it is (now?) mentioned there and the other proposed entries at the proposed dab page do not appear to comply with DABMENTION. signed, Rosguill talk 20:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Rosguill. --BDD (talk) 01:49, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

March 24[edit]

Elmlea / Artificial cream[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarge to separate targets

Tire tool[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

ANBC[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 2#ANBC

Wikipedia:Delist[edit]

Disambiguate Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: disambiguate

Super mutant[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 7#Liaqat Ali (cricketer, born 1987)

Test Wikipedia[edit]

  • Test Wikipedia → Wikimedia Foundation#Software projects and other backstage projects  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 April 27#Test Wikipedia resulted in a retarget; however, the topic is not mentioned at the target anymore nor anywhere else in mainspace. Since there is also no standalone page about this in other namespaces, I suggest deletion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Change to disambiguation page that gives the reader a one-line description of and links to [ https://test.wikipedia.org/ ], [ https://test2.wikipedia.org/ ], [ https://test.wikimedia.org/ https://test.wikidata.org/ ], and any other test Wikipedias that might be created in the future. I use those pages on occasion when investigating various bugs that might have been fixed in the development versions (free clue: you can usually do your tests in the sandbox and see them in preview, then back out without saving). --Guy Macon (talk) 11:52, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Can I suggest adding the Wikimedia Incubator to that list, since it's used to test new projects and languages, and a "see also" link to the sandbox, which is used for testing things on site? 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:14, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
      • That seems reasonable. Certainly some people use Incubator for tests. It is at [ https://incubator.wikimedia.org/ ] --Guy Macon (talk) 13:36, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
    • @Guy Macon: https://test.wikimedia.org/ does not exist. There are https://test.wikidata.org/ and https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/ though, but they would never be called "Test Wikipedia" and as such do not fit the proposed disambiguation page. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
      • Thanks for catching the error, That will teach me to cut and paste rather than typing from memory... I don't see a problem with including a Wikidata or a Commons.wikimedia in the disambig page. Just preface them with "related pages". --Guy Macon (talk) 13:36, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig per the above, and include a link to the sandbox where people looking to test how Wikipedia editing works can experiment. Thryduulf (talk) 15:21, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Adding a link to the sandbox is a brilliant idea. I guess that's why they pay you the big bucks.   :)   --Guy Macon (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
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  • Disambiguate per above and also link to the sandbox per above. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm really not crazy about the idea of a mainspace disambiguation page consisting of only external links, and there's no question it would be noncompliant with MOS:DAB (especially MOS:DABEXT). This gets many fewer views than I would've expected, and if I understand correctly, none of the sites suggested (besides the sandbox) are suitable for testing by general users. If there's really a use for this for developers, we could at least use the project namespace. --BDD (talk) 13:49, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per BDD, I am similarly uncomfortable with a mainspace disambiguation page quite that non-standard, and I'm really not convinced it would help. ~ mazca talk 21:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per BDD. With "Test Wikipedia" used nowhere in mainspace, such a disambiguation page would also fail WP:DABMENTION. -- Tavix (talk) 13:31, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Disambiguate. There's nothing wrong with the resultant dab page – the entries proposed above are not external links, but links to sister projects, and these are routinely integrated into our navigational framework (for example, they get displayed in the search results, we often create soft redirects to Wiktionary or elsewhere, we accept interlanguage links in dab entries, etc.). The only real question, in my opinion, is whether the dab page should remain in mainspace or be moved to WP:Test Wikipedia. – Uanfala (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per above. Perhaps if it's not mentioned in mainspace, projectspace would have to do, but I'm not strongly opinionated on this. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:32, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate between the sandbox and the two test wikipedias, and move to the Wikipedia: namespace. I frankly don't see anything useful in having a reader-facing dab page for those things, as there's no real content per se about any of those topics at the proposed links. However, I can see this being useful from a new editor's perspective, in pointing them in where is the proper place to test things. This shouldn't remain in mainspace, though, as it doesn't seem to be likely to be useful for readers. Hog Farm Talk 21:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

The Art of Stealth[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Erwin Müller (Saarland)[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Palestinian separatism[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Meteorology/Books[edit]

No consensus Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: no consensus

Draft:2019[edit]

No consensus Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: no consensus

White horse flag[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Long Time[edit]

Disambiguate Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: disambiguate

Podarke (polychaete)[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 31#Podarke (polychaete)

Titanic steel[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Cityfight[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Disambiguate Cityfight and retarget the rest there

Untitled sixth Ariana Grande studio album[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Potassium arsenate[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: procedural close