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Инструкции для администратора

Перенаправления для обсуждения ( RfD ) - это место, где обсуждаются потенциально проблемные перенаправления . Элементы обычно остаются в списке в течение недели или около того, после чего они удаляются, сохраняются или перенаправляются.

  • Если вы хотите заменить незащищенный редирект статьей, указывать ее здесь не нужно. Полностью приветствуется преобразование перенаправлений в статьи. Смелее !
  • Если вы хотите переместить страницу, но вам мешает переадресация, не указывайте ее здесь. По не спорным случаям размещайте технический запрос ; если требуется обсуждение, начните запрошенный ход .
  • Если вы думаете, что перенаправление указывает на неправильную целевую статью, это хорошее место для обсуждения того, что должно быть правильной целью.
  • Редиректы не следует удалять только потому, что в них нет входящих ссылок. Пожалуйста, не используйте это как единственную причину для удаления перенаправления. Тем не менее, переадресовывает , что делать есть входящие ссылки иногда удаляется, так что это не является достаточным условием для хранения. (Дополнительную информацию см. В § Когда следует удалять перенаправление? ).

Пожалуйста, не меняйте цель перенаправления, пока она обсуждается. Это добавляет ненужного усложнения дискуссии как для потенциальных близких, так и для участников.

Перед включением перенаправления для обсуждения [ править ]

Помните об этих общих правилах, которые применяются здесь, как и везде:

  • Википедия: Перенаправление  - что такое перенаправления, почему они существуют и как используются.
  • Википедия: Критерии быстрого удаления  - какие страницы можно удалить без обсуждения; в частности разделы « Общие » и « Перенаправления ».
  • Википедия: Политика удаления  - как мы удаляем вещи консенсусом.
  • Википедия: Руководство по удалению  - рекомендации по формату обсуждения и сокращению.

Руководящие принципы RfD [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RGUIDE
  • Цель хорошего перенаправления - исключить возможность того, что читатели будут тупо смотреть на «Результаты поиска 1–10 из 378» вместо статьи, которую они искали. Если кто-то может правдоподобно ввести имя перенаправления при поиске целевой статьи, это хорошее перенаправление.
  • Перенаправления дешевы . Они занимают мало места для хранения и используют очень небольшую полосу пропускания. Это не повредит вещам, если их несколько разбросаны вокруг. С другой стороны, удаление перенаправлений также обходится дешево, потому что запись удаления занимает мало места в хранилище и использует очень небольшую полосу пропускания. Нет никакого вреда в удалении проблемных редиректов.
  • Если добросовестная номинация RfD предлагает удалить перенаправление и не обсуждается в течение как минимум 7 дней, результатом по умолчанию является удаление .
  • Перенаправления, назначенные в нарушение Википедии: Перенаправление будет быстро сохранено .
  • RfD также может служить центральным дискуссионным форумом для обсуждения того, на какую страницу следует нацелить перенаправление. В случаях, когда перенаправление перенаправления может считаться спорным, рекомендуется оставить уведомление на странице обсуждения текущей целевой страницы перенаправления или предлагаемой целевой страницы, чтобы направить читателей к назначению перенаправления, чтобы разрешить ввод и помочь сформировать консенсус для перенаправления. цель.
  • Запросы на удаление переадресации с одной страницы обсуждения на другую страницу не нужно перечислять здесь. Кто угодно может удалить перенаправление, очистив страницу. G6 критерий для быстрого удаления может быть целесообразным.
  • В обсуждениях всегда спрашивайте себя, поможет ли переадресация читателю.

Когда следует удалять редирект? [ редактировать ]


Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # ВРЕДНЫЙ

Основные причины, по которым удаление перенаправлений вредно :

  • редирект может содержать нетривиальную историю редактирования;
  • если перенаправление достаточно старое (или является результатом перемещения страницы, которая находилась там довольно долгое время), то возможно, что его удаление нарушит входящие ссылки (такие ссылки, поступающие из более старых версий страниц Википедии, из сводок редактирования , из других проектов Викимедиа или из других источников в Интернете , не отображаются в разделе «Какие ссылки здесь» ).

Поэтому рассматривайте удаление только вредоносных перенаправлений или недавних.

Причины удаления [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # УДАЛИТЬ

Вы можете удалить перенаправление, если выполняется одно или несколько из следующих условий ( но обратите внимание также на исключения, перечисленные под этим списком ):

  1. Страница перенаправления неоправданно затрудняет пользователям поиск статей с похожими названиями через поисковую систему. Например, если пользователь выполняет поиск по запросу «Новые статьи» и перенаправляется на страницу разрешения неоднозначности для «Статей», ему потребуется гораздо больше времени, чтобы перейти к недавно добавленным статьям в Википедии.
  2. Перенаправление может вызвать путаницу. Например, если «Адам Б. Смит» был перенаправлен на «Эндрю Б. Смит», потому что Эндрю был случайно назван Адамом в одном источнике, это могло вызвать путаницу со статьей об Адаме Смите , поэтому перенаправление следует удалить.
  3. Переадресация является оскорбительной или оскорбительной, например, перенаправление «Блог Джо - неудачник» на «Блоги Джо» (если в статье законно не обсуждается «Блоггс Джо» на «Неудачник»). ( Могут применяться критерии быстрого удаления G10 и G3 .)
  4. Перенаправление представляет собой саморекламу или спам. ( Может применяться критерий быстрого удаления G11 .)
  5. Перенаправление не имеет смысла, например перенаправление «Apple» на «Orange». ( Может применяться критерий быстрого удаления G1 .)
  6. Это перекрестное перенаправление пространства имен из пространства статьи, например перенаправление в пространство имен User или Wikipedia. Основным исключением из этого правила являются перенаправления ярлыков псевдо-пространства имен , которые технически находятся в основном пространстве статьи. Некоторые давние перенаправления между пространствами имен также сохраняются из-за их давней истории и потенциальной полезности. Например, перенаправления « MOS: » являются исключением из этого правила. (Примечание «РГ:» перенаправление в пространстве имен Википедии, WP: будучи псевдоним для Википедии: . Speedy критерий удаления R2 может также применяться , если если редирект из основных пунктов статьи пространства имен в категорию:, Шаблон: , Википедия: , Help: и Portal: Пространства имен).
  7. Если перенаправление не работает, то есть перенаправляет на несуществующую статью, ее можно немедленно удалить в соответствии с критерием быстрого удаления G8 , хотя вы должны убедиться, что нет альтернативного места, куда оно могло бы быть соответствующим образом перенаправлено первым.
  8. Если переадресация является новым или очень малоизвестным синонимом названия статьи, она вряд ли будет полезна. В частности, как правило, не следует создавать перенаправления на языке, отличном от английского, на страницу, тема которой не связана с этим языком (или культурой, которая говорит на этом языке). Недопустимые опечатки или неправильные названия являются кандидатами на критерий быстрого удаления R3 , если они были созданы недавно.
  9. Если целевую статью нужно переместить в заголовок перенаправления, но перенаправление было отредактировано ранее и имеет собственную историю, тогда заголовок необходимо освободить, чтобы освободить место для перемещения. Если ход не вызывает сомнений, пометьте перенаправление для быстрого удаления G6 или, в качестве альтернативы (с suppressredirectправом пользователя; доступно для перемещателей страниц и администраторов), выполните циклическое перемещение . Если нет, отнесите статью к Запрошенным ходам .
  10. Если редирект может быть расширен до статьи, а целевая статья практически не содержит информации по теме.

Причины не удаления [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD № KEEP

Однако не удаляйте такие перенаправления, если:

  1. У них есть потенциально полезная история страниц или история редактирования, которую следует вести в соответствии с требованиями лицензирования для слияния (см. Википедия: Слияние и удаление ). С другой стороны, если перенаправление было создано путем переименования страницы с этим именем, и в истории страниц просто упоминается переименование, и по одной из вышеуказанных причин вы хотите удалить страницу, скопируйте историю страницы на страницу обсуждения статья, на которую он перенаправляет. Акт переименования полезен для истории страниц, и тем более, если было обсуждение имени страницы.
  2. Они могут способствовать случайному связыванию и снизить вероятность создания дублирующих статей , будь то перенаправление множественного числа на единственное, перенаправление частых орфографических ошибок на правильное написание, перенаправление неправильного названия на правильный термин, перенаправление на синоним и т. Д. Другими словами, перенаправления без входящих ссылок не являются кандидатами на удаление по этим причинам, потому что они полезны для просматривающего пользователя. От редакторов потребуется некоторая дополнительная бдительность, чтобы свести к минимуму появление этих частых орфографических ошибок в текстах статей, потому что связанные с ними орфографические ошибки не будут отображаться как неработающие ссылки.
  3. Они помогают поиску на определенных условиях. Например, если кто-то видит где-то упомянутое « ключевое состояние », но не знает, к чему это относится, то он или она сможет узнать об этом в статье Пенсильвании (целевой).
  4. Вы рискуете сломать входящие или внутренние ссылки, удалив перенаправление. Например, перенаправления, возникающие в результате перемещения страниц, обычно не следует удалять без уважительной причины. Ссылки, которые существовали в течение значительного периода времени, включая ссылки CamelCase и старые ссылки на подстраницы , следует оставить в покое на случай, если на внешних страницах есть какие-либо существующие ссылки, указывающие на них.
  5. Кто-то считает их полезными. Подсказка: если кто-то говорит, что считает редирект полезным, вероятно, так оно и есть. Возможно, вы не сочтете это полезным - это не потому, что другой человек лжет, а потому, что вы просматриваете Википедию по-разному. Инструмент просмотра страниц также может свидетельствовать о внешней полезности.
  6. Редирект к тесно связанной форме слова, такие как форма множественного числа к форме единственного числа .

Нейтральность переадресации [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RNEUTRAL

Подобно тому, как заголовки статей, использующие ненейтральный язык , разрешены в некоторых случаях , такие переадресации разрешены . Поскольку переадресация менее заметна для читателей, в их именах допускается большая свобода. Таким образом, предполагаемое отсутствие нейтральности в именах переадресации не является достаточной причиной для их удаления. В большинстве случаев ненейтральные, но поддающиеся проверке перенаправления должны указывать на статьи с нейтральным заголовком, посвященные теме термина. Ненейтральные перенаправления могут быть помечены .{{R from non-neutral name}}

Ненейтральные перенаправления обычно создаются по трем причинам:

  1. Статьи, созданные с использованием ненейтральных заголовков, обычно перемещаются в новое нейтральное заголовок, которое оставляет старое ненейтральное заголовок в качестве рабочего перенаправления (например, разногласия по электронной почте Climategate → Climatic Research Unit ).
  2. Статьи, созданные как вилки POV, могут быть удалены и заменены перенаправлением, указывающим на статью, из которой возник вилка (например, мусульманский слух Барака Обамы → удален и теперь перенаправлен на теорию заговора религии Барака Обамы ).
  3. Тематика статей может быть представлена ​​некоторыми источниками за пределами Википедии в ненейтральных терминах. Таких терминов обычно избегают в заголовках статей Википедии, чтобы избежать рекомендаций и общей политики нейтральной точки зрения . Например, ненейтральное выражение « Attorneygate » используется для перенаправления на нейтрально названный спор об увольнении американских поверенных . В статье, о которой идет речь, никогда не использовалось это название, но перенаправление было создано, чтобы предоставить альтернативный способ добраться до него, поскольку этот термин используется в ряде сообщений прессы.

Исключениями из этого правила будут перенаправления, которые не являются установленными условиями и вряд ли будут полезны, и поэтому могут быть назначены для удаления, возможно, по причине удаления № 3 . Однако, если перенаправление представляет собой установленный термин, который используется в нескольких основных надежных источниках , его следует сохранить, даже если он не является нейтральным, поскольку он облегчит поиск по таким условиям. Помните, что RfD - не то место, где разрешается большинство редакционных споров.

Заключительные примечания [ править ]

Подробности в: Инструкции для администратора RfD .

Кандидатуры должны оставаться открытыми в соответствии с политикой примерно за неделю до закрытия, если они не соответствуют общим критериям быстрого удаления , критериям быстрого удаления перенаправления или не являются действительными запросами на обсуждение перенаправления (например, фактически являются запросами на перемещение ).

Как выставить редирект для обсуждения [ править ]

Ярлык
  • WP: RFD # HOWTO
  • Пожалуйста, подумайте об использовании здесь ссылок What, чтобы найти другие перенаправления, которые могут быть связаны с тем, который вы назначаете. После перехода на целевую страницу перенаправления и выбора «Какие ссылки здесь» на панели инструментов в левой части экрана компьютера выберите фильтры «Скрыть включения» и «Скрыть ссылки», чтобы отобразить перенаправления на целевую страницу перенаправления.

Текущий список [ править ]

9 мая [ править ]

GTA 6 [ править ]

  • GTA 6 → Grand Theft Auto # Титулы ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • GTA VI → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Нет подтвержденных планов относительно перехода Grand Theft Auto IV в WP: CRYSTALlization , как утверждается в обсуждениях Grand Theft Auto IV и Grand Theft Auto 6 ниже. Зачем нам они все еще валяются, если это так? С уважением, SONIC 678 22:38, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалите и соль, как показано ниже. Даже если были планы на эту игру, в текущей целевой статье нет упоминания о 6-й игре или каких-либо будущих планах по франшизе. Если их удалить, их следует засолить, поскольку две из них, приведенные ниже, часто становились объектами рассылки спама и статей-мистификаций без источника. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:49, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Солите, пока официально не анонсируют GTA 6. Не удивлюсь, если это вообще не выйдет. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 13:12, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Комментарий по переносу:Результат этого обсуждения должен совпадать сВикипедией: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 8 мая 2021 г. # Grand Theft Auto 6.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, ✗ plicit 00:08, 9 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Гендерное насилие [ править ]

  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Гендерное насилие → Насилие в отношении женщин ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Гендерное насилие также включает насилие в отношении мужчин и насилие в отношении ЛГБТ . Шарузер ( разговор ) 02:39, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambig (или setindexify) для гендерного насилия (для соответствия категории: гендерное насилие ). Некоторые статьи в категории также будут иметь смысл для индекса «мазок / набор» (например, насилие на гендерной почве в Интернете ). Тридуульф ( разговор ) 12:01, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Держи . Насилие в отношении мужчин - это сексуальное насилие . То же самое и с ЛГБТ, но поскольку ЛГБТ является широким термином, избиение геев отличается от избиения трансгендеров , первое - это сексуальное насилие, а второе - гендерное насилие. Название « Гендерное насилие в Интернете» вводит в заблуждение, поскольку в статье говорится только о насилии в отношении женщин. Правильным названием могло быть «Насилие в отношении женщин в Интернете». Джей ( разговорное ) 15:33, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Русско-румынское двуязычие [ править ]

  • Русско-румынское двуязычие → Языки Молдовы ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Невероятный редирект, никто бы не стал искать "русско-румынский билигуизм" в поисках языков, на которых говорят в Молдове. Редирект получил 0 посещений за последние 30 дней и, вероятно, за последние месяцы. Следует также отметить, что в Молдове не все говорят по-русски; только 15% населения заявили, что используют русский язык в повседневной жизни (в то время как румынский говорит все в Молдове). Super Ψ Dro 09:58, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

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Long Hots [ править ]

  • Long Hots → Chili pepper ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Поиск в Интернете предполагает, что это относится к конкретному перцу, используемому в итальянской (итало-американской?) Кухне, но я не могу найти в Википедии ни одной статьи, которая бы соответствовала ему или упоминала бы его иным образом. Я бы предложил удалить, чтобы стимулировать создание статьи. подписали, Rosguill разговор 19:05, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

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8 мая [ править ]

Династия Камагети [ править ]

  • Династия Камагети → Наяки Читрадурги ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не указано в цели, нет результатов в Google Scholar, удалите, если не может быть предоставлено обоснование. подписали, Rosguill разговор 16:38, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Эдвард Баджен [ править ]

  • Эдвард Баджен → Англиканская церковь ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Эта страница начиналась как статья о торговце, который оставил немного денег церкви Англии, но в 2009 году она была преобразована в перенаправление после Википедии: Статьи для удаления / Эдвард Баджен . Текущая цель не содержит упоминания об этом человеке, и я не смог найти ничего о нем нигде 192.76.8.91 ( обсуждение ) 15:10, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Слабый перенацеливание на Эгама Хита # Индустриализация / коммерциализация, где он упоминается, хотя и очень кратко. Я добавил туда пару источников, которые предоставляют немного более подробную информацию, но насколько я могу судить, есть ли какое-либо значительное освещение о нем, его нет в сети. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 18:13, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Застойная демократия [ править ]

  • Застойная демократия → Серхио Агуайо ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Я думаю, что в нынешнем виде это перенаправление скорее удивит читателей, чем поможет им. Насколько я могу судить, это частичное совпадение названия с английским переводом статьи, первоначально опубликованной на испанском языке этим ученым, что, на мой взгляд, является довольно слабой связью. Поиск в Google не подсказывает мне, что фраза «застойная демократия» особенно сильно связана с Серхио Агуайо. Лучшая потенциальная цель, которую мне удалось найти, - это политическая стагнация , но я не думаю, что она идеально подходит. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 14:41, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Ретаргетинг на номинатора. Это сбивает с толку, когда ссылка на политическое понятие ведет к статье о человеке. J I P | Обсуждение 15:11, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Веска [ править ]

  • Веска → Список персонажей Планеты обезьян # Веска ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Перенаправление с второстепенного персонажа «Планеты обезьян», оригинальная статья преобразована в перенаправление восемь лет назад. Не упоминается в целевой статье. Только входящая ссылка с « Планеты обезьян» (сериал), в которой он упоминается один раз мимоходом. Удалите, чтобы освободить место для Черновика: Веска (торговый центр), как только он будет принят, или кто-то другой напишет статью о торговом центре. J I P | Обсуждение 11:02, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Неоднозначность это село в Dolany (Оломоуц округ) , вымышленный персонаж из одного пункта , перечисленных в списке торговых центров в Финляндии ; когда черновик статьи утверждается и перемещается в пространство статей, основная тема может быть решена на этом этапе. Однако нынешний проект статьи был отклонен 8 мая; так что сейчас он не перемещается в пространство статей. - 67.70.27.105 ( разговорное ) 19:25, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Grand Theft Auto 6 [ править ]

  • Grand Theft Auto 6 → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

То же самое и с его сестринской страницей Grand Theft Auto VI , игра не существует и официально не подтверждена Rockstar Games. Любое видео с названием «официальный» на YouTube - это розыгрыш. На самом деле это своего рода хрустальный шар. Ни одна статья не использует эту страницу перенаправления. Kaseng55 ( разговорное ) 05:35, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удаляем и солим . В целевой статье не упоминается GTA 6 и не упоминаются какие-либо планы на будущее по этой серии. Единственный контент в истории страницы - это фальшивый контент об игре, выпущенной в 2017 году, полученный из поддельных видео на YouTube. В случае удаления, вероятно, потребуется солить, так как было несколько попыток сделать статью с этим заголовком. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:06, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Grand Theft Auto VI [ править ]

  • Grand Theft Auto VI → Grand Theft Auto # Заголовки ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Эта игра не существует, и Rockstar Games официально не подтвердили ее. Любое видео с официальным названием, которое вы видите на YouTube, - это просто розыгрыш. Также это может быть своего рода хрустальный шар. Ни одна статья не использует эту страницу перенаправления. Kaseng55 ( разговорное ) 05:32, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удаляем и солим . В целевой статье не упоминается GTA 6 и не упоминаются какие-либо планы на будущее по этой серии. Единственный контент в истории страницы - это фальшивый контент об игре, выпущенной в 2017 году, полученный из поддельных видео на YouTube. В случае удаления, вероятно, потребуется солить, так как было несколько попыток сделать статью с этим заголовком. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:06, 1 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Джордж Требек [ править ]

  • Джордж Требек → Алекс Требек ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

В настоящее время шляпная сноска у Алекса Требека указывает на Джорджа Требека (с буквой «с»). Алекс Требек, безусловно, более заметная фигура, чем Джордж Требек. Тем не менее, я почти не могу найти случаев, чтобы кто-либо когда-либо обращался к Требеку только по его имени и фамилии. Поиск в Google несколько осложняется тем фактом, что у его отца было то же имя, но отец "Джордж Требек" показывает только один релевантный результат, который я могу найти: это сообщение в блоге, описывающее статью The Ottawa Citizenякобы бегал в 1961 году. В заголовке он упоминается как «Георгий Требек», а в теле - «Джордж Александр Требек», второе упоминание «Александр». (Замечу, что поиск по цитируемому заголовку возвращает только это сообщение в блоге, ничего от самого Citizen , и блог не совсем RS.)

Учитывая все это, я считаю маловероятным, что кто-то будет искать нашу статью о Требеке, используя этот поисковый запрос. Я предполагаю, что кто-то мог искать информацию о своем отце, но в статье говорится лишь несколько слов о Джордже Требеке, так что в этом случае перенаправление вводит в заблуждение. Я предлагаю перенацелить на Джорджа Требека со шляпкой, указывающей на текущую цель. Второй вариант удаления для WP: XY . -  Тамзин (они / она) | о токи тава ми. 13:42, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC) Добавлен контекст (см. Подчеркнутую часть). -  Тамзин (она / они) | о токи тава ми. 15:25, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Держите - я не могу понять, о чем это предложение, потому что Джордж Требек - это страница, а не перенаправление. - Каутиля3 ( разговор ) 14:39, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
    @ Kautilya3 : Может быть, дело в схожих названиях? Георгий Требек , субъект данного RFD, перенаправляется на Алекса Требека . Джордж Требек (обратите внимание на букву «с»), предлагаемая мной новая цель, - это статья об исследователе XIX века. Если только у меня здесь не галлюцинации ... -  Тамзин (она / они) | о токи тава ми. 15:19, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
    @ Kautilya3 : эээ , Джордж Требек - это перенаправление на Алекса Требека , и он был с момента создания в 2014 году. Тридулф ( разговор ) 15:28, 30 апреля 2021 года (UTC)
  • Ретаргетинг по ном. (Извините за путаницу!) - Каутиля3 ( разговор ) 15:39, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Держите, чтобы большинство людей угадало «-eck», а не «-ek», если бы они не знали написание, и маловероятно, что это когда-либо было бы создано как перенаправление на Джорджа Требека . Если есть источники для этого в качестве альтернативного написания Trebeck, я бы поддержал ретаргетинг. Питер Джеймс ( разговор ) 16:50, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Держите, хотя и нечасто, я нашел это с "Джорджем А. Требеком". МБ 03:01, 4 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Слабая крепость . Я лично считаю, что Алекс Требек - лучшая цель, поскольку Джордж Требек - менее распространенное имя Джорджа «Алекса Требека», тогда как это всего лишь орфографическая ошибка Джорджа Требека . Последний тоже всего лишь заглушка, и у него гораздо меньше просмотров страниц . Однако я понимаю, куда шел номинатор (Тамзин). Кроме того, когда я сравнил просмотры страниц при перенаправлении с просмотром Джорджа Требека, в попытке увидеть, было ли у перенаправления больше просмотров страниц (тем самым доказывая, что большинство людей, использовавших перенаправление, не сразу переходили к статье Джорджа Требека), я обнаружил, что у статьи было больше просмотров страниц, опровергая мою первоначальную точку зрения. Однако это напрямую не доказывает, что все больше людей действительно ищут статью Джорджа Требека, когда набирают «Джордж Требек», так что это останется моим мнением, если оно не будет доказано. Mattx8y ( разговор ) 01:02, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Ретаргетинг по ном. SCP-053 ( разговор ) 23:37, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраняйте , правильные имена обычно должны иметь приоритет над неправильными. Достаточно сноски. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 20:35, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Мораи [ править ]

  • Мораи → Хейау ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в целевом объекте , но, вероятно, может относиться к другим темам, таким как Рашид Мораи или ссылка на ссылку в {{ Области Ченнаи }}. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠 ) 20:36, 23 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Комментарий Я также искал это перенаправление в поисках Мойраи . Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 15:53, 28 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
    @ OcelotCreeper Также может быть опечатка Мираи .~~~~
    Пользователь: 1234qwer1234qwer4 ( обсуждение )
    08:51, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • " Morae , Marae , Мораи - термин , используемый иностранными наблюдателями при обращении к Heiau " - https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/kona/historyg.htm Nurg ( разговор ) 2:05, 2 мая 2021 (UTC )
  • Нацелить на Марае за Nurg. marae означает священное место, которое служит религиозным и социальным целям в полинезийских обществах. Мораи действительно упоминается в текущей цели, см. Изображение с подписью: «Иллюстрация Уильяма Эллиса на хейау в заливе Кеалакекуа во время третьего плавания Джеймса Кука». Изображение говорит, что это вид на Мораи. В описании изображения в Commons говорится, что это Мораи в заливе Кеалакекуа. В статье Кеалакекуа Бэй упоминается Мораи как священное место захоронения. Джей ( разговорное ) 11:52, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig . Он может включать в себя Рашид Morai , то redlinked запись на {{ Области Ченнай }} (последний я проверил WP: RED , это разрешено), термин моры , марае , Morai , и , возможно , Мойры и Mirai в см также раздел. Ocelot Creeper ( ta lk ) 16:17, 5 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
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Соломоновы Острова на летних Олимпийских играх 2020 года [ править ]

  • Соломоновы Острова на Летних Олимпийских играх 2020 → Летние Олимпийские игры 2020 ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалите перенаправление, чтобы стимулировать создание статьи Joseph 2302 ( обсуждение) 17:33, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Оба этих перенаправления были статьями до того, как были перенаправлены Onel5969 . Таким образом, обоснование исключения кандидатом довольно некорректно. Не удаляйте перенаправление, потому что это было бы удалением статьи через черный ход. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:51, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)
    • Текущее перенаправление не дает никакой информации о теме, поэтому красная ссылка прекрасно подойдет, пока кто-то не захочет создать достойную статью. Что, скорее всего, произойдет, когда некоторые участники из страны пройдут квалификацию. Джозеф 2302 ( разговор) 08:08, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Восстановить статью в истории страниц на WP: BLAR . Тридуульф ( разговор ) 15:45, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Продолжайте , перенаправление статей об участии отдельных стран в статью об общем спортивном мероприятии является разумным, особенно с учетом того, что мероприятие еще не произошло. Восстановление статьи только для того, чтобы отправить ее в АдГ и удалить ее только для того, чтобы она была воссоздана через несколько месяцев, кажется большой бюрократией с небольшой выгодой. подписали, Rosguill разговор 18:18, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Науру на летних Олимпийских играх 2020 года [ править ]

  • Науру на летних Олимпийских играх 2020 → Летние Олимпийские игры 2020 ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалите перенаправление, чтобы стимулировать создание статьи Joseph 2302 ( обсуждение) 17:33, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Оба этих перенаправления были статьями до того, как были перенаправлены Onel5969 . Таким образом, обоснование исключения кандидатом довольно некорректно. Не удаляйте перенаправление, потому что это было бы удалением статьи через черный ход. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 21:52, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)
    • Текущее перенаправление не дает никакой информации о теме, поэтому красная ссылка прекрасно подойдет, пока кто-то не захочет создать достойную статью. Что, скорее всего, произойдет, когда некоторые участники из страны пройдут квалификацию. Джозеф 2302 ( разговор) 08:08, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Восстановить статью в истории страниц на WP: BLAR . Это без ущерба для АдГ, если кто-то пожелает. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 15:46, 28 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Продолжайте , перенаправление статей об участии отдельных стран в статью об общем спортивном мероприятии является разумным, особенно с учетом того, что мероприятие еще не произошло. Восстановление статьи только для того, чтобы отправить ее в АдГ и удалить ее только для того, чтобы она была воссоздана через несколько месяцев, кажется большой бюрократией с небольшой выгодой. подписали, Rosguill разговор 18:18, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо, CycloneYoris talk! 04:25, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Умерший изобретатель [ править ]

  • Умерший изобретатель → Изобретатель (патент) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это просто кажется мне очень маловероятным поисковым запросом. Никаких входящих ссылок, поэтому нигде не используется. Не упоминается в целевой статье, и если кто-то искал в ней, не является безопасным предположение, что им было интересно конкретно о патентном праве. Библброкс ( разговор ) 18:07, 15 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Во всяком случае, я думаю, что Список изобретателей будет иметь больше смысла, поскольку я считаю, что более вероятно, что кто-то, использующий это в качестве поискового запроса, ищет список мертвых изобретателей, и поскольку в списке упоминаются даты рождения и смерти (если применимо) list можно было бы использовать таким образом. По крайней мере, это имеет больше смысла, чем текущая цель. - 67.70.101.238 ( разговор ) 21:54, 15 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на список изобретателей по IP (этот наш обычный IP-друг стал динамичным или новый? Я не был здесь несколько дней). Не особенно сильный ретаргетинг, но похоже, что люди могут разумно искать в этом месте, а предлагаемое местоположение гораздо более интуитивно понятно. Ватицидальный пророк 06:00, 16 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Комментарий : целевая статья содержит обсуждение юридических требований к обработке заявки на патент в случае смерти изобретателя. Таким образом, перенаправление имеет больше смысла, чем может показаться. -  BarrelProof ( разговор ) 23:30, 17 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
Хорошо, это не совсем неуместно, но я все же уверен, что кто-то, ищущий патентные требования, не будет использовать умершего изобретателя в качестве поискового запроса. - 67.70.101.238 ( разговор ) 06:13, 19 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалите , и текущая цель, и предлагаемая цель перенаправления кажутся менее чем полезными. подписано, разговор Росгилла 20:49, 24 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо,BDD(обсуждение) 01:41, 29 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep Although there is not much at the current target there is a mention and reference. Without the plural unlikely that this would be expected to redirect to a list. Peter James (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 04:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Kobe Jones[edit]

  • Kobe Jones → 2021 Atlanta Falcons season  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Нет необходимости в этом перенаправлении (и, возможно, предотвращает заполнение этой страницы, если это необходимо) Debartolo2917 ( обсуждение ) 03:49, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Оставьте пока. Редирект всегда можно смело превратить в статью, когда он сыграет в нормативную игру. AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 14:25, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

7 мая [ править ]

Второстепенные персонажи, связанные с квиддичем [ править ]

  • Второстепенные персонажи, связанные с квиддичем → Армия Дамблдора ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Второстепенные персонажи Гарри Поттера, связанные с квиддичем, не имеют ничего общего с армией Дамблдора. Это перенаправление следует удалить, если не будет найден подходящий ретаргет, в котором говорится о теме перенаправления. Jackattack1597 ( разговорное ) 23:44, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалено по ном. Армия Дамблдора - это не второстепенный персонаж или персонаж, обязательно связанный с квиддичем. - Эль Милло ( разговор ) 03:14, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Это используется , чтобы быть статья перед тем , как в одностороннем порядке перенаправлен. Его не следует удалять, так как это будет означать, что статья будет удалена без обсуждения ее существа. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 3:28, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Восстановление без ущерба для AfD согласно WP: BLAR согласно J947. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 09:22, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Монополия Fortnite [ править ]

  • Fortnite Monopoly → Monopoly (игра) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить; не упоминается в цели. AllegedlyHuman ( разговор ) 19:13, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Перенацелите на Список лицензионных и локализованных выпусков Monopoly: USA # F , где это упомянуто. - Eureka Lott 19:20, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Википедия: LABLEAKLIKELY [ править ]

  • Википедия: LABLEAKLIKELY → Пользователь: Adoring nanny / Essays / Lab Leak Likely ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Wikipedia shortcut promoting a fringe theory (per WP:PROFRINGE). The essay can stay but we shouldn't amplify it this way. Guy (help! - typo?) 19:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose/Keep If you delete this, then WP:NOLABLEAK should be deleted as well. Delete both, or keep both - but it's not right to delete one and keep the other. — Ched (talk) 19:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Храните (Автор очерка здесь). Я хотел бы отметить, что WP: NOLABLEAK содержит личное мнение автора о Дональде Трампе, но имеет ярлык. Кроме того WP: NOLABLEAK заявляет в качестве фактического вопроса «не было лаборатории утечки», а не только то , что в качестве вопроса политики Википедии, статьи Википедии следует сказать , что гипотеза утечки лаборатория не имеет широкой поддержки. Первая позиция сильнее, чем позиция, которую занимает любая статья в Википедии, а вторая полностью согласуется с моим эссе. Обожаю няню ( разговор ) 23:36, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить: Я хотел бы обсудить идею WP: OTHERSTUFF Чеда об удалении WP: NOLABLEAK . Представьте, что кто-то создал пару эссе, в которых поддерживаются периферийные теории со следующими перенаправлениями на них: WP: VACCINESCAUEAUTISM и WP: COVIDIDOESNOTEXIST . Мы бы держать их или же удалять любые редиректы , которые пошли к очеркам спорящих против теорий бахромы? Как насчет моего эссе на WP: YWAB ? пришлось бы нам удалить это перенаправление, если бы мы хотели удалить перенаправление WP: THEHOLOCAUSTISAMYTH на эссе, поддерживающее отрицание холокоста? Я так не думаю. - Гай Мейкон ( разговор ) 23:55, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
Бахрома - это спектр. Обожаю няню ( разговор ) 01:08, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
Если Fringe - это спектр, то вы находитесь далеко в левом поле. Практически нет ученых и лишь несколько других публикаций поддерживают теорию утечки из Уханьской лаборатории.
--Guy Macon (talk) 01:55, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Эта статья [1] не рассматривает ученых, которые открыты для гипогликемии LL, как психов. Этого не случится с отрицателями холокоста. А зачем воспитывать Яна? В моем эссе нет. Обожаю няню ( разговор ) 02:30, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Не комментируя пока достоинства номинированного редиректа (я еще не решил об этом), я согласен с Гаем относительно WP: NOLABLEAK . Если бы было несколько ярлыков к одному и тому же эссе, то обсуждение их всех одновременно, вероятно, имело бы смысл, но эти перенаправления указывают на разные цели с очень разными уровнями принятия сообществом. Это означает, что вполне вероятно, что люди будут рекомендовать им разные действия и / или будут иметь разные обоснования для своих рекомендаций, что приведет к более сложному обсуждению и сделает более вероятным результат отсутствия консенсуса или даже крушения поезда (что никому не помогает). Вы, конечно, можете выставить WP: NOLABLEAK для обсуждения, если хотите, в любое время (при условии, что вы делаете это не только для того, чтобыWP: POINT ), просто такое обсуждение должно быть отделено от этого и о достоинствах этого перенаправления. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 00:48, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить . Ставить официальный ярлык Википедии на личное эссе, посвященное второстепенной теории? Нет, даже близко к правильному.
Существование WP: NOLABLEAK здесь не имеет значения: если у вас есть проблема с этим перенаправлением, либо получите консенсус в отношении того, что, по вашему мнению, должна сказать цель, либо назначьте WP: NOLABLEAK для удаления. - Калтон | Обсуждение 01:41, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete both (but, you know, especially this one). Both are inappropriate projectspace shortcuts. But another question: WP:Wikipedia is not your COVID Truth blog? Does [more or less] "and that's why Wikipedia gets the facts wrong" about any random topic legitimate random opinions? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:47, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete for Guy (and Guy Macon) reasons. Such things simply do not belong here. Put it on Facebook or somewhere, this is an encyclopedia. --Hob Gadling (talk) 08:33, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Not suitable for this redirect, as it's a personal essay performing no WP:PAG-aligned function that could further the Project, but instead promotes conspiracist ideas and bashes Wikipedia ("Wikipedia can't be trusted on controversial topics") in rather a silly way. For these reasons the essay itself should probably be deleted too per WP:NOTWEBHOST, but that's a different discussion. Alexbrn (talk) 15:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
WP:ESSAY is clear that essays are not required to agree with consensus. Furthermore, suppose that there is a systematic problem with Wikipedia policy that results in Wikipedia routinely describing true propositions as false. If that turns out to be the case, would it be beneficial to Wikipedia to be made aware of it? Adoring nanny (talk) 16:08, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia reflects accepted knowledge, not any particular editor's notion of The Truth™ - for obvious reasons. Anyway, I suggest you save those argument for the likely upcoming WP:MFD. Alexbrn (talk) 16:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохранять : Точно так же приемлемо, как и любой другой ярлык, начинающийся с прописных букв в пространстве проекта, для эссе пользовательского пространства; Я бы не возражал полностью отказаться от них, но пока они существуют, это нормально. Честно говоря, читал с ними менее внятные. "Почему бы вам не номинировать WP: NOLABLEAK ?" - неправильный способ думать об этом, поскольку фактический способ изменить прецедент здесь - это RfC о ярлыках для эссе в пользовательском пространстве. Обсуждение достоинств самого эссе - это вопрос MfD. Ватицидальный пророк 20:08, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Каким бы неприятным я ни нахожу эссе, здесь я больше согласен с Чедом. Я, к сожалению, не могу оправдать удаление этого перенаправления, тем более что RfC по аналогичному решению по содержанию не нашел консенсуса (хотя он не спрашивал, была ли утечка в лаборатории `` вероятной '', скорее, это теория заговора или научное меньшинство мнение, но ярлыки редиректа, не имеющие строгого названия, никогда нас раньше не останавливали). Если люди хотят сделать MfD, сочинение продолжайте. Но есть много WP: отрывков от эссе до эссе, я думаю, полная чушь, и мы не удаляем их. Я не понимаю, почему это по-другому. ProcrastinatingReader ( разговор ) 01:58, 9 мая 2021 (UTC)
    BTW I don't agree with the WP:VACCINESCAUEAUTISM argument. If its content was actually trying to promote that idea it would be MfD'd immediately and promptly deleted, with people also combing the history of the author with the goal of sanctions. And probably rightly so. But it wouldn't be the shortcut that's inherently the problem, it'd be the essay. Similarly, if you want to target this essay, go to MfD and make your case under WP:NOTOPINION or WP:NOTESSAY or take your pick of other relevant policies. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 02:03, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалите оба таких эссе «Спорные» в пользовательском пространстве, которые не требуют ссылок на главное пространство. Hemiauchenia ( разговор ) 04:34, 9 мая 2021 (UTC)

Роти лаваш [ править ]

  • Roti pita → Pita ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Никаких упоминаний о роти у цели, удалить, если не может быть предоставлено обоснование. подписали, Rosguill разговор 18:48, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Speedy G5 Бесполезное перенаправление, объединяющее два типа хлеба вместе, созданное глобально заблокированным sockpuppet LTA. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 20:41, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

Vyond редиректы [ править ]

  • Видео с мертвым мясом → Vyond # видео "заземленных" ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Behavior Card Day → Vyond # "Заземленные" видео ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Palantir[edit]

  • Palantir → Palantír  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 November 5 § Palantir – Keep

Palantir Technologies has a 10:1 pageviews ratio over the current target and is well-known simply as Palantir. A dab page seems more appropriate than a primary redirect. 162 etc. (talk) 16:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

  • I agree that the "fictional magical artefact" should not be considered the primary topic here, but when I proposed retargeting last year the consensus was to keep. But a dab wasn't really discussed much then, so maybe? — Rhododendrites talk \\ 16:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
I believe that Palantir Technologies is the primary topic, but chose to propose it this way since WP:NOPRIMARY is probably an easier argument to win. A compromise. 162 etc. (talk) 19:58, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Make it a dab, or at the very least add a hatnote at Palantir Technologies as well. Just no connection to Palantír is not helpful. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:45, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per the consensus of the previous discussion, since when nothing seems to have changed. I'm particularly convinced by the arguments made by Paine Ellsworth and AngusWOOF. Thryduulf (talk) 21:27, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Those arguments (and that entire discussion) revolved around whether Palantir Technologies is the primary topic. I'm not trying to make that argument. This discussion is about whether Palantír is not the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
And I believe it is the primary topic, for reasons including those I referenced above. Thryduulf (talk) 00:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Позвольте мне возразить, так как я не участвовал в этом первоначальном обсуждении.
  • Пейн Эллсворт выразил обеспокоенность: «Я думаю, что для типизированного перенаправления важнее нацеливать заголовок базового имени с диакритическим знаком для WP: DIACRITICS, чем придерживаться WP: PRIMARYREDIRECT».
→ Это противоречит WP: МАЛЕНЬКИЕ ДЕТАЛИ . Роуз не перенаправляет на Розэ , просто чтобы назвать один пример.
  • AngusWOOF сказал следующее: «Компания названа в честь вымышленного объекта. (...) Это все равно что утверждать, что Apple Computer должна быть основной темой по сравнению с Apple, потому что у нее гораздо больше просмотров страниц при поиске».
→ a) This is specifically shown to be incorrect reasoning per WP:DPT: "Being the original source of the name is also not determinative. Boston, Massachusetts is the primary topic for Boston, not the English town from which it took its name."
→ b) Using the Apple/Apple Computer comparable is misplaced here. I doubt that anybody can make the argument that a plot device in a work of fiction has the same long-term significance as an apple.
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC asks us to consider usage and long-term notability when determining a primary topic. "Palantír" fails the first, and possibly both of those criteria. Therefore, Palantir should become a disambiguation page, as per WP:NOPRIMARY. 162 etc. (talk) 01:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Хранить. Мой аргумент тот же, что и в предыдущем обсуждении, связанном выше, независимо от того, насколько недействительным для WP: SMALLDETAILS другой редактор считает это. Я думаю , что SMALLDETAILS является сфабрикованным как WP: диакритическим именование и в WP: TSC политика. Более важно иметь перенаправление, которое можно ввести на стандартной клавиатуре, чтобы нацелить любой заголовок со специальными символами, которые нельзя ввести на клавиатуре. Поэтому для целей поиска очень важно, чтобы удобный для клавиатуры "Palantir" продолжал перенаправлять на "Palantír". PI Ellsworth   ed.  туда  01:57, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Диакритический знак автоматически не делает его главной темой. Если я ищу футболиста Бебе и набираю «Бебе», я получаю страничку на Бебе . Если я ищу французский город Макон и набираю «Макон», я получаю мазковую страницу в Маконе . Почему это должно быть иначе? 162 и т. Д. ( Разговор ) 08:12, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
      • Всегда есть исключения из политики, но мы стараемся придерживаться политики и консенсуса сообщества, когда это возможно. Цитирование экземпляров WP: IAR - не повод для IAR. PI Ellsworth   ed.  туда  17:06, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
        • Я не предлагаю игнорировать правила. Я думаю, что следует соблюдать правила, особенно правила WP: PRIMARYTOPIC и WP: ASTONISH . Переадресация на диакритический знак не может применяться, если заголовок неоднозначен, как в этом случае или в примерах, которые я назвал выше (которых гораздо больше, конечно, не исключение) 162 и т. Д. ( Разговор ) 19:11, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Устранение неоднозначности или перенацеливание на 162 и т. Д., Который, кажется, представляет довольно убедительный аргумент. Мне действительно показалось странным, что так много людей складываются на основе WP: DIACRITICS , которую я никогда раньше не видел в качестве козырной карты. Но тогда я не очень много времени провожу в RfD ... -Рододендриты говорят \\ 02:04, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Villa Pliniana[edit]

  • Villa Pliniana → Villa Plinianina  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Villa Plinianina was wrongly moved to Villa Pliniana and I reversed the move and left a redirect following a help desk request at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2021 April 2#Can someone help please. I think the redirect should be deleted as it is confusing and suggests that Villa Plinianina (Q4012433) and Villa Pliniana (Q4012427) are the same building, which they are not. There is potential for an article on Villa Pliniana see Draft:Villa Pliniana. TSventon (talk) 15:07, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. Бесполезно перенаправлять читателей, ищущих одну историческую виллу, на статью о другой. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 20:46, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

Эль Тако [ править ]

  • El Taco → Taco Bell ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Я не нашел вообще ни одного источника, который называет Taco Bell "El Taco". Вильгельм Телль DCCXLVI обратного | fings wot i hav dun 06:30, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Держите: «El Taco» - это то, что исторически называлось магазином, как описано в статье (также легко найти больше источников, чем тот, который там использовался). ‑‑ Volteer1 ( разговор ) 07:38, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалить : по определению, El Taco - это только испанское слово "The Taco", поэтому, если это вообще необходимо, следует перенаправить на "Taco" CommanderWaterford ( разговор ) 10:42, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
    ах да @ CommanderWaterford это имеет смысл. Я согласен с вашим утверждением, после достижения консенсуса я внесу изменения, CrayonArt45 ( обсуждение ) 21:52, 7 мая 2021 года (UTC)
    В RfD консенсус не только решает, следует ли сохранять перенаправление, но также и то, где перенаправление должно быть нацелено, поэтому внесение такого изменения в перенаправление было бы неразумным. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 22:27, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)
    Эм .... ладно? CrayonArt45 ( обсуждение ) 00:57, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Другие списки католических святых [ править ]

  • Список святых Канарских островов → Список католических святых и блаженных людей Канарских островов ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список бретонских святых → Список бретонских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список святых из Океании → Список католических святых и блаженных людей в Океании ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список американских святых и блаженных людей → Список американских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список святых Польши → Список польских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список мексиканских святых → Список мексиканских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список мальтийских святых → Список мальтийских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список святых Индии → Список индийских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Список хорватских святых и блаженных людей → Список хорватских католических святых и блаженных людей ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • List of Brazilian saints → List of Brazilian Catholic saints and beatified people  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • List of Australian saints → List of Australian Catholic saints and beatified people  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • List of Christian saints of Algeria → List of Algerian Catholic saints and beatified people  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • List of Catalonian saints
  • List of Scandinavian saints
  • List of saints from Africa
  • List of saints from Asia
  • List of Central American and Caribbean saints
  • List of South American saints

Only concerns the Catholic Church, so these redirects should be deleted Veverve (talk) 01:16, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Bundled nominations with exact same rationale. Veverve could you please bundle these types of nominations in the future? There's no need to add each one of these separately. CycloneYoris talk! 01:55, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Object the original pagemoves were undiscussed, and as I have pointed out on the proposer's talk page may well be disputed. I have already undone one for reasons given at Talk:List of Cornish saints. DuncanHill (talk) 13:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @ DuncanHill : Список корнуоллских святых удален из списка, это была моя ошибка. Все остальные статьи всегда начинаются с того, что они касаются только католической церкви, но называются «Список X Святых». Неважно, что другие Церкви случайно признают некоторых из этих людей святыми, это список тех, кого Церковь RC считает святыми. Veverve ( разговорное ) 13:35, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перемещение объектов и откат страниц Эти перемещения страниц проблематичны, и их следовало обсудить в первую очередь. На этих страницах также перечислены почтенные люди и слуги Божьи. Если мы собираемся быть WP: PRECISE , то заголовок должен быть « Список католических святых, блаженных людей, достопочтенных людей и слуг Бога Индии» . Понятно, что здесь WP: CONCISE title Список святых Индии уместен. В любом случае, зачем удалять редирект из заголовка WP: CONCISE, если нет споров по поводу неоднозначности? Первооткрыватель ( разговор ) 20:17, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Списки русских святых [ править ]

  • List of Russian saints → List of Eastern Orthodox Russian saints  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Russian saints → List of Russian saints  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Saints from Russia → List of Russian saints  (talk · links · history · from Russia stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Saints of Russia → List of Russian saints  (talk · links · history · of Russia stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Saints canonized in Russia → List of Russian saints  (talk · links · history · canonized in Russia stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • List of saints from Russia → List of Russian saints  (talk · links · history · of saints from Russia stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Список святых Руси → Список русских святых ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · святых России статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]        
  • Список святых, канонизированных на Руси → Список русских святых ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · канонизированных на Руси святых статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]        
  • Святость в России → Список русских святых ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика в России ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]        
  • Святые канонизированы Русской Православной Церковью
  • Список святых, канонизированных Русской Православной Церковью
  • Святость в Русской Православной Церкви
  • Святые Русской Православной Церкви

Это касается только русских святых Восточной Православной Церкви, а не всех русских святых и не всех святых, канонизированных Русской Православной Церковью, поэтому эти перенаправления следует удалить. Veverve ( разговор ) 02:09, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: Fixed incorrectly formatted nomination, and tagged redirects which didn't have an RfD tag. CycloneYoris talk! 05:02, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Lists of Serbian saints[edit]

  • List of Serbian saints → List of saints of the Serbian Orthodox Church  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Serbian saints → List of saints of the Serbian Orthodox Church  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Сербские святые → Список святых Сербской Православной Церкви ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]        

Это касается только святых Сербской Православной Церкви, а не всех сербских святых, поэтому эти перенаправления следует удалить. Veverve ( разговор ) 02:02, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Комментарий : исправлены неправильно оформленные номинации и помеченные перенаправления, у которых не было тега RfD. CycloneYoris говорить! 02:11, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

6 мая [ править ]

Арена Нью-Джерси [ править ]

  • New Jersey Arena → Red Bull Arena (New Jersey) ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Удаление перенаправления, созданное путем отмены разрушительного, не обсуждаемого, вандализма. Невероятная цель, поскольку Prudential Center более вероятен, но даже тогда здания под названием «New Jersey Arena» никогда не существовало. Это действительно должно быть ускорено, но на самом деле это не опечатка, и ускорение было отклонено. Окназевад ( разговорное ) 23:32, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: There is no "New Jersey Arena" and no indication that it could be another name for either Prudential Center, Red Bull Arena, Meadowlands Arena, or even Metlife Stadium. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 23:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as no official arena by that name. Otherwise could redirect to List of indoor arenas in the United States AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. There isn't a suitable list or category of arenas in New Jersey that I've been able to find that this could be retargetted to. Thryduulf (talk) 07:40, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as above. GiantSnowman 11:00, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Mary Ann Bighead[edit]

  • Mary Ann Bighead → Mary Ann Sieghart  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This name is not mentioned anywhere in the target article leaving me confused. It is mentioned at Recurring jokes in Private Eye#Jibes aimed at individuals, but I'm unsure whether the best course of action is retargetting there, adding some content at the present target or deleting. Thryduulf (talk) 22:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Перенаправьте на статью о повторяющихся шутках в частном сыске, которая кажется наиболее подходящей целью. Я думаю, что добавление раздела об имени к Мэри Энн Сигарт , вероятно, было бы неуместным, и когда нам приходилось иметь дело с потенциально оскорбительными именами в прошлом, мы нацеливали их на статьи, объясняющие имя, а не на человека, которого они нацелены на (например, Crazy Bernie и Sleepy Joe (псевдоним) нацелены на статью о псевдонимах, используемых Дональдом Трампом, а не Берни Сандерсом и Джо Байденом). 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:32, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацелите на повторяющиеся шутки в Private Eye , если только не планируется удалить это, как в разделе «Жаргон» в Rush Limbaugh . AngusW🐶🐶F ( кора • сопение ) 00:05, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на IP, Angus и прецедент для неудачных ников. Ватицидальный пророк 04:45, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Национальная комиссия по развлечениям [ править ]

  • Национальная комиссия по развлечениям → Совет по рейтингам СМИ # История ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Никакого упоминания об этом в целевой статье. T * U ( разговор ) 21:51, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить . Единственная «ссылка», которую я могу найти, связывая это имя с Советом по рейтингу СМИ, - это видео на YouTube, загруженное пользователем с именем пользователя, подозрительно похожим на имя пользователя редактора, который сделал это перенаправление. Некоторые другие перенаправления этого редактора подлежат удалению как возможные мистификации, и это, похоже, ничем не отличается. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:05, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

Общежитие Бертона и Элмера В. Макколлумов. [ редактировать ]

  • Общежитие Бертона и Элмера В. Макколлумов. → Университет Канзаса ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Невозможно с завершающей пунктуацией, очень мало просмотров страниц. Обсуждение Hog Farm 21:12, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить по номеру как WP: UNNATURAL редирект. Ватицидальный пророк 04:46, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Большая голова [ править ]

  • Big Head → Silicon Valley (TV series)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Probably delete for now — this might be a good candidate for a dab page, but I'm a bit busy at the moment — I don't think this is a good WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT in any form, when there is other at least equally valid targets such as Bighead, Bigheads, Bighead (record producer), Bighead carp... WT79 (speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing) 20:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambig. I've drafted a rather extensive disambigation below the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 22:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Wow, that is quite a lot of big heads you managed to find! Seeing as you've already done that, I'll re-vote disambiguate. Thank you! WT79 (speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing) 17:21, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Season 8, 2016[edit]

  • Season 8, 2016 → Holland's Got Talent (season 8)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Это не единственный сериал, премьера 8-го сезона которого состоялась в 2016 году. Неоднозначный поисковый запрос, см. Результаты поиска . Семьдесят пять лет ( разговорное ) 20:17, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить Я переместил статью из этого заголовка в более правильный заголовок много лет назад - извиняюсь за то, что не предпринял шагов для правильной очистки прямо сейчас. - Finngall разговоры 20:49, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить до смешного неоднозначный, не правдоподобный поисковый запрос. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:08, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per above, looks like the pageviews after the move have subsided into normal numbers. J947's public account 22:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy G6 per Finngall AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Vida (dog)[edit]

  • Vida (dog) → Gisele Bündchen  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Я заметил, что у ничем не известной собаки по необъяснимым причинам есть перенаправление. Стоит задаться вопросом, жива ли вообще собака на данный момент. Trillfendi ( разговорное ) 19:55, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить , не упомянутый в целевой статье или где-либо еще в энциклопедии. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:11, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

Кауманик [ править ]

  • Кауманик → Религия инуитов # Ангакуит ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не упоминается в цели. Единственным результатом поиска в настоящее время является упоминание в справке на конференции по изучению инуитов . 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 ( 𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠 ) 09:44, 23 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Комментарий . Кауманик ранее упоминался в мишени. Затем раздел был очищен и сделан ссылкой на основную статью Angakkuq . Я уведомил этот Rfd в той статье, а также пользователя, который очистил. Джей ( разговорное ) 11:16, 29 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо,подписали, Rosguill разговор 18:29, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

Биунниллиум [ править ]

  • Biunnillium → Расширенная периодическая таблица # Beyond element 172 ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Biseptquadium → Расширенная таблица Менделеева # Beyond element 172 ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]            

Согласно Википедии: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 3 января 2019 г. # Elements 185+ и WP: BALL , похоже, что E184 был решен в качестве точки остановки для этих перенаправлений, учитывая упоминания в WP и в литературе. Конечно, есть несколько тривиальных упоминаний некоторых гипотетических элементов помимо этого, но продолжение «заранее определенного списка или систематического шаблона имен» до бесконечности создало бы множество перенаправлений сомнительной полезности, тем более что они не упоминаются в их систематических называет несколько раз, когда они упоминаются. ComplexRational ( разговор ) 15:15, 26 апреля 2021 (UTC)

Удалить согласно WP: CRYSTAL , и большинство предсказаний в литературе помещают конец периодической таблицы где-то между элементом 126 и вскоре после элемента 164. - Laundry Pizza 03 ( d c̄ ) 17:13, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • В статье Strong keep на самом деле обсуждаются E274 и E210, поэтому эти два перенаправления не являются перенаправлением случайных номеров элементов, они относятся к темам, специально прокомментированным в целевой статье, таким образом, являются допустимыми условиями поиска для информации, найденной на странице, которая конкретно посвящена E210 и E274. - 67.70.27.246 ( разговорное ) 20:01, 26 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
    • Прокомментируйте, что эти два элемента специально обсуждаются в разделе Расширенная периодическая таблица # Магические числа и остров стабильности - хотя кажется, что у нас должна быть отдельная статья в конце периодической таблицы, чтобы собрать такие темы вместе, а не распространяться по статья в разделе, отличном от конца раздела таблицы Менделеева. - 67.70.27.246 ( разговорное ) 20:23, 26 апреля 2021 (UTC)
В этой статье они упоминаются по порядковому номеру и никак иначе. В источниках они упоминаются только как возможные.магические числа, поэтому основное внимание уделяется их ядрам, а не самим элементам; Я все равно не верю, что какой-либо источник использует систематические имена элементов. Более того, можно было бы привести аналогичный аргумент для любого упомянутого числа - независимо от того, насколько тривиально или кратко - даже если вероятность использования и поиска систематических имен становится практически нулевой. Я видел банальные упоминания 186, 188, 190, 204, 216, 260, 354 и многих других в надежных источниках, хотя и с перерывами. Независимо от того, решим ли мы сохранить / создать переадресацию после 184, нам все равно где-то нужна четкая точка остановки; 184 был выбран, потому что большинство наборов прогнозов (для большинства / всех промежуточных элементов) и анекдотов на этом заканчиваются. ComplexRational ( разговор ) 20:19, 27 апреля 2021 (UTC)
«Точка остановки» без объяснения причин - плохая идея. Если элемент обсуждается, то точка остановки не будет иметь значения для конкретных перенаправлений для тем, которые существуют в целевом объекте. Таким образом, независимо от того, какая точка остановки выбрана, если элемент обсуждается, то он должен иметь перенаправление. Если элемент не обсуждается, значит, перенаправление не требуется. Существование перенаправления основано на его обсуждении, если оно не обсуждается, удалите его, даже если оно меньше произвольного отсечения. - 67.70.27.246 ( разговорное ) 21:13, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
Учитывая имеющиеся у нас прогнозы, я думаю, что 184 не является произвольным; там не так много в стороне от тривиального упоминания за то и использование системных имен отваливается ( за исключением примеров из систематических имен). Может быть, можно было бы обосновать переадресацию до 210 или 218, если мы хотим рассмотреть тривиальные упоминания, предсказания ядерной оболочки и экстраполяцию Aufbau. Тем не менее, я считаю, что отсутствие приблизительного консенсуса в отношении ограничения будет стимулировать создание перенаправлений для произвольно высокого Z, и кто-то неизбежно подумает: « Если Z существует, то почему бы не Z + 1?". That said, I wouldn't encourage randomly deciding on some number (as you say), though I don't think a one-line mention in one reliable source (the question perhaps is what counts as "discussed") is substantial enough to merit a redirect. To highlight this contrast: (almost) all the redirects we have up to 184 have something more substantial that is discussed in detail (and actually about the element, not just the number as an example for theoretical nuclear physics) in the target article; as the article content and sources demonstrate, this is not the case beyond 184. ComplexRational (talk) 21:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
Strong keep Эти перенаправления элементов были созданы специально . См. Выше мою причину. 🪐Kepler-1229b | говорить | contribs🪐 00:31, 28 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • Держи . Является ли переадресация правдоподобным поисковым запросом? Я бы сказал да, потому что систематические названия, как правило, используют все, кроме ученых. (Может быть, меньше, чем раньше, но только потому, что сейчас все известные элементы имеют постоянные имена.) Приводит ли это читателя к релевантной информации, непосредственно относящейся к этим атомным номерам? Да, это так (хотя, вероятно, он должен перейти в раздел магических чисел). Итак, я думаю, что перенаправление - это чистая выгода. Дабл диез ( разговор ) 06:53, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

Отменить Уэльс / Отменить Шотландию [ править ]

  • Отменить Уэльс → Отменить Партию Ассамблеи Уэльса ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Отменить Шотландию → Отменить Партию парламента Шотландии ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить как ТОЧКА перенаправляет на политические партии, участвующие в выборах; Похоже, они были созданы для того, чтобы стороны могли быть связаны по ссылкам атаки POV . Timrollpickering ( разговорное ) 20:04, 21 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить из-за того, что это странные части имени (см. Мое эссе, WP: FRIED ) и из-за его атакующего характера. NotReallySoroka ( обсуждение ) (ранее DePlume) 21:10, 21 апреля 2021 года (UTC)
  • Keep both - "Abolish" is a common shorthand for national iterations of the "Abolish the [national legislature] Party", in the same way that "Tory" is shorthand for the Conservative Party, and how "GOP" is shorthand for the Republican Party. These are both plausible shorthand synonyms. WP:RNEUTRAL applies to the nominator's rationale - if these redirects are being used inappropriately that's not an issue with the title but with the editors who are abusing it. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 11:07, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Сохраните оба в соответствии с Ivanvector. «Отменить Шотландию» упоминается в статье, а «Отменить» упоминается как сокращенное название валлийской партии, так что «Отменить Уэльс» также кажется подходящим поисковым термином, поскольку это партия «Отменить» в Уэльсе. A7V2 ( разговорное ) 04:31, 29 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить - ни одна из сторон не использует их для описания себя (шотландская сторона на самом деле больше склоняется к «Отменить Холируд»), и единственная причина появления совпадений при поиске в Google - это либо Википедия, либо новостные статьи со словами «отменить» и «Шотландия / Уэльс» в них.
Аргумент, что они упоминаются в статьях, слабый - там нет ничего, что могло бы подтвердить, что это сокращения, которые встречаются в реальном мире. Кроме того, с аргументами о тори и республиканской партии (обе давно установившиеся основные политические силы) эти сокращения широко используются. Партия за отмену валлийской ассамблеи была сформирована в 2015 году, а партия за отмену Шотландского парламента - в 2020 году, поэтому у нас не было много времени для того, чтобы появилось единственное твердое сокращение для любого из них.
С другой стороны, эти партии не связаны друг с другом; такие похожие перенаправления создают впечатление, что они являются национальными отделениями одной и той же партии (см. Шотландские и валлийские консерваторы ).
Я считаю, что, хотя эти перенаправления могут быть правдоподобными, на самом деле ни одно из сокращений на самом деле нигде не используется (возможно, небольшой WP: TOOSOON ). Газамп ( разговор ) 12:00, 29 апреля 2021 (UTC)
Я понимаю вашу точку зрения, но это не обязательно вопрос того, как они официально себя называют, а больше - того, что люди будут искать; независимо от того, является ли это официальным сокращением, люди будут думать, что это называется «Отменить» (возможно, ошибочно) - именно так работает язык. Я думаю, что перенаправление поможет прояснить замешательство этих читателей или что-то в этом роде. Айвинд-Бьярнасон ( разговорное ) 20:19, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
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MJ (певец) [ править ]

  • MJ (певец) → Майкл Джексон ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Маловероятный поисковый запрос. Как показывает статистика, обычно это не приносит никаких результатов , и нетрудно понять почему - кто бы ввел «MJ» и затем устранял неоднозначность, если бы они не знали, как добраться до статьи Майкла Джексона? Я бы не возражал, если не считать, что MJ (южнокорейский певец) - настоящая страница с сотнями просмотров в день. Таким образом, на самом деле нет никакой пользы в том, чтобы таскать этот неполный DAB. Нохомерсрян ( разговорное ) 04:52, 29 апреля 2021 (UTC)

Note this wasn't properly tagged. I tagged it at 08:09, 30 April 2021. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, then move the South Korean singer to MJ (singer) leaving a hatnote to Michael Jackson. As an American, if I saw "MJ (singer)" my first thought would be Michael Jackson, but that doesn't supersede a notable singer who actually has that stage name. The hatnote should clear up any confusion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 07:19, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    An WP:RM would be needed for the South Korean singer (though my !vote below might apply to that case also)—Bagumba (talk) 10:17, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на MJ # People . Шхноцолуд ( разговор ) 08:11, 30 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на MJ # People . Заголовки, допускающие неоднозначность в скобках, как правило, не должны быть двусмысленными. - Багумба ( разговор ) 10:17, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалите и создайте RM для южнокорейского певца за AllegedlyHuman. Ватицидальный пророк 13:48, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Переместите MJ (южнокорейского певца) к этому названию и отметьте Майклом Джексоном . Нет другого певца, который однозначно известен как "MJ". BD2412 T 15:47, 30 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Перемещение согласно BD2412. МБ 14:53, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Удалите и переместите MJ (южнокорейский певец) в это название. Для людей практически невозможно намеренно ввести «MJ (певец)» в поле поиска, чтобы найти статью о Майкле Джексоне. Blues Satellite ( разговор ) 07:25, 2 мая 2021 (UTC)
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Свеа Рике [ править ]

  • Свеа Рике → Europa Universalis: Crown of the North ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]            
  • Svea Rike II → Europa Universalis: Crown of the North ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить или изменить область действия цели.

The target article concerns the game also known as Svea Rike III, which is an entirely different game from Svea Rike I and II. It is therefore not a good redirect target for these two redirects. Either these redirects should be deleted, or the target article should be renamed and broadened in scope to include the entire Svea Rike series instead of only its third instalment. Rua (mew) 08:54, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалите Svea Rike II , так как он упоминается только как игра в серии по цели и не содержит реальной информации об игре. Слабый перенацеливание Svea Rike на Reich # Usage_in_related_languages , где фраза обсуждается как лингвистический термин. Обсуждение Hog Farm 15:28, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
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  • Ретаргетинг Svea Rike следует перенастроить на Svealand или сделать страницу значений неоднозначности, поскольку Svea rike - старое название Швеции, упоминаемое в Svealand, шведах (германское племя) и в других местах. Цвентон ( разговор ) 15:45, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)

Создание Назо и ежа Сильвера [ править ]

  • Создание Назо и ежа Сильвера → Sonic X ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Маловероятный поисковый запрос. Dominicmgm ( разговорное ) 17:20, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Комментарий - он появился в результате АдГ . Историю необходимо сохранить, чтобы сохранить атрибуцию. Anarchyte ( разговор • работа ) 9:49, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

WWAFAWDWG? [ редактировать ]

  • WWAFAWDWG? → Когда мы все засыпаем, куда мы идем? ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

в Википедии: Redirects_for_discussion / Журнал / 2019_April_25 # WWAFAWDWG - Dyl х 17:18, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Удалить в соответствии с предыдущим консенсусом. Добавление вопросительного знака не имеет значения. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 18:21, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Слабая крепость . А поиск новости Google показывает несколько сайтов , использующих эту аббревиатуру для обозначения альбома, версия без знака вопроса , кажется, была использована в качестве щебета хэштег для продвижения альбома, и это , кажется, не быть неоднозначным ни с чем другим. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 22:20, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

Файл: Rogers3.jpg.jpg [ редактировать ]

  • Файл: Rogers3.jpg.jpg → Файл: Rogers3.jpg ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Двойное расширение, страницы со статьями не ссылаются на этот редирект. EpicPupper ( обсуждение ) 16:59, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Хранить в WP: FILEREDIRECT . Тридуульф ( разговор ) 17:12, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраняйте в соответствии с WP: FILEREDIRECT файл под этим названием почти 5 лет. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 19:59, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраняйте в соответствии с J947, файл находился под этим заголовком так долго, что, вероятно, удаление может что-то сломать. Обсуждение Hog Farm 21:08, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Я помню, что несколько лет назад я проверял сотни на наличие повторяющихся расширений. Я бы сказал, что мы должны удалить старые имена файлов для очистки. Теперь, когда у нас есть лучшая поисковая система в Википедии, маловероятно, что кто-то попадет к файлу через его перенаправление. Также удаляя это, я иногда обнаруживаю вандализм. Если кто-то вернется к очень старой версии страницы, содержащей изображение, это вызовет красную ссылку и привлечет внимание пользователя. - Магиоладитис ( разговор ) 08:55, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Последний тур Сената [ править ]

  • Senate runoff → United States Senate#Elections  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

As senate is ambiguous, and many countries have runoffs, this is too narrow of a target by far. Hog Farm Talk 16:58, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak retarget to Two-round system (where runoff election redirects). Per that article, runoff elections (of various types) are also used for the senates of Australia, Ireland and the Czech Republic at least so the current target is indeed too narrow. Thryduulf (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Аффинная симметрия [ править ]

  • Аффинная симметрия → Аффинное векторное поле ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

"Симметрия" не упоминается в целевой статье. Между тем есть и другие объекты, которые состоят из аффинных симметрий ( аффинные группы Кокстера , общая аффинная группа ) или практически содержат эту фразу в своем названии ( аффинная симметрическая группа ). Если есть хорошее обоснование для текущей цели перенаправления (мне это не ясно), то, возможно, это должна быть страница с разрешением неоднозначности, но также, возможно, ее следует удалить. JBL ( разговор ) 16:58, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Affine group, and extend the new target for including the term. Indeed, although "Affine symmetry" may have several meanings, the primary meaning refers clearly to an affine transformation (that is an element of the affine group) that leaves a geometric object invariant. D.Lazard (talk) 21:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per D.Lazard. I agree that the primary meaning is symmetry under affine transformations. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:45, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Direct link[edit]

  • Template:Direct link → Template:Querylink  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Template:Static link → Template:Querylink  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A pair of unused template redirects that were created to get around the consensus of a TFD discussion, and who's target is not intended to be used in the manner these redirects suggest. Template:Direct link was originally created by JsfasdF252 as a template that converted internal wikilinks into external links. This template was deleted following a TFD discussion here, basically on the basis that wikilinks should remain as wikilinks. After being deleted per the TFD consensus the template was recreated as a redirect to a template that could be misused to do the same thing, see the creation edit summary of Template:Direct link. Ссылка запроса должна использоваться для добавления строк поиска в конец ссылки (например, & redirect = no или & action = history), но, не передавая ей никаких параметров, ее можно использовать для того же, что и удаленный шаблон прямой ссылки. Меня несколько соблазняет G4 как очевидная попытка обойти обсуждение в TFD, но я подумал, что лучше принести их сюда для обсуждения 192.76.8.91 ( обсуждение ) 15:03, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

Удалить как / почти как G4 [...]согласно исходному TfD, вики-ссылки не должны быть запутаны таким образом. Я бы назвал это G4 по духу - хотя редирект не идентичен на техническом уровне, он делает кое-что, против чего было решительно отказано в TfD. На самом деле не нужно быстро удалять, нормальное удаление - это нормально. Пользователь: GKFX talk 16:29, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC) (отредактировано в 19:39, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC) согласно приведенным ниже комментариям к G4.)
  • Не G4, поскольку этот критерий явно не применяется - удаленные страницы были шаблонами, а это перенаправления. РГ: CSD # G4 критерий явно исключает страницы, которые не являются « по существу идентичны» на удаленной странице, редирект не по существу идентичен шаблону, и эти редиректы не были ранее. В критерии для страниц, созданных для обхода причины удаления, нет положения, хотя такое создание может быть разрушительным и / или нарушать WP: POINT, которые не являются критериями быстрого удаления. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 16:58, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • Thryduulf Я полагаю, это зависит от того, как вы интерпретируете «достаточно идентичный» применительно к шаблонам - важна ли реализация или результат? Я не был уверен, почему я принес его сюда. Если шаблон отправлен в TFD и консенсус состоит в том, чтобы удалить его, будет ли воссоздание модуля LUA с идентичными входными, функциональными и выходными данными под G4? В этом случае фактическая функциональность шаблона такая же, как и при перенаправлении - он преобразует вики-ссылки в форматированные внешние ссылки, то есть меняет Foo на Foo . 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 17:36, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
      I imagine a LUA module that was a recreation of a deleted template and had no additional functionality would be a G4 candidate (although it might depend on why the template was deleted). For redirects the consensus is that both the title of the redirect and the target of the redirect need to be almost identical to a redirect discussed at RfD to qualify. A redirect and a template are two very different things, and the question being asked here is not "should a template that does this exist" but "are these redirects to this other template (which presumably does have consensus to exist) useful?". Thryduulf (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
      The answer to that question is that these redirects suggest that converting wikilinks to external links is an approved thing to do. The title "Querylink" makes it clear that you are only supposed to use it with a query string whereas "direct" and "static" do not imply that restriction. User:GKFXtalk 19:39, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
      ThryduulfХотя они такие разные? Мысленный эксперимент, если хотите - пользователь создает шаблон «Cite Breitbart News», слегка изменяя копию «Cite web», скажем, они удаляют пару параметров. Шаблон отправляется в TFD, где он удаляется на том основании, что, поскольку Breitbart News является устаревшим источником, нецелесообразно иметь специализированный шаблон цитирования. Затем редактор воссоздает "Cite Breitbart News" в качестве перенаправления для цитирования в Интернете. С точки зрения функциональности их поведение идентично - у них одинаковое имя шаблона, они принимают одинаковые параметры шаблона и производят одинаковый вывод, но один реализован как шаблон, а другой - как перенаправление. Подходит ли перенаправление для удаления G4? Что'В основном ситуация с этим перенаправлением - консенсус сообщества был против шаблона в TFD, поэтому они перепрофилировали другой шаблон, чтобы сделать то же самое, даже если он не предназначался для такого использования. Думаю, это достаточно сложный вопрос, и ответ далеко не очевиден.
      В терминах «является ли это перенаправление любого использования» ответ - не ИМО, так как название вводит в заблуждение - ссылка запроса предназначена для использования в небольшом количестве ситуаций, когда вам нужно сгенерировать ссылку с конкретными параметрами запроса, добавленными в конец. - он широко использовался до того, как в mediawiki были добавлены такие страницы, как Special: History и Special: Edit , когда единственным способом создания ссылок для редактирования страницы было создание вручную URL-адреса с добавлением «& action = edit» в конце. Его не предполагается использовать для массовой замены вики-ссылок, как это делал редактор при редактировании, подобном этим [2] , [3] , [4] , [5]так как это ломает буквально все (например, посетитель, «какие ссылки здесь», отчеты базы данных, скины, пользовательские скрипты, боты, настраиваемые CSS ...) и не дает никаких преимуществ. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 20:27, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
      "I think it's quite a complex question and the answer is far from obvious." You've answered your own question here - if something is not obvious then it is not eligible for speedy deletion - per the lead of WP:CSD "Administrators should take care not to speedily delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases."
      As for the general principal, it is very clear that redirects and templates are very different things and so a TfD can not be used to delete a redirect under G4 in any circumstances. Thryduulf (talk) 21:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous TfD (but I agree G4 doesn't apply). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить , поскольку имена переадресации не выпирали шаблон, и форель числителя для чрезвычайно несоответствующего G4 предложения. Резервное копирование Nyttend ( обсуждение ) 12:30, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Стивен 1 из hugary [ править ]

  • Стефан 1 из Хугари → Стефан I из Венгрии ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Implausible redirect created by page move from typo, only has 59 pageviews. Hugary, etc do not exist. The only links to the page were automatically created by Twinkle when nominating this. Dudhhr (talk) 07:41, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete - implausible typo redirect. This has the number 1 instead of the correct I, a typo, and "Hungary" is miscapitalised. 60 page views in 7 years is basically bot noise levels. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 15:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment' Stephen 1 of Hungary, Stephen I of hungary and Stephen 1 of hungary are all highly plausible redirects. Hugary on it's own is not implausible, but I'm not sure about "hugary". Thryduulf (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Use of Hindu-Arabic numeral, plus Hungary is misspelled and miscapitalized. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Combination of 1 for I, h for H, and g for ng = highly implausible. Nyttend backup (talk) 12:30, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

SafeRide [ править ]

  • SafeRide Колледж Святой Марии в Мэриленде ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Поиск Google предполагает, что этот термин невероятно неоднозначен. На данный момент, когда я пишу это, не существует ни Safe ride , ни Saferide , ни Safe Ride , поэтому я не думаю, что лучше указать на это. Обсуждение Hog Farm 06:01, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Удалить по ном. Mattx8y ( разговор ) 16:40, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить . Эта тема заслуживает отдельной статьи, но текущая цель не подходит. - Mx. Грейнджер  ( обсуждение · вклад ) 08:27, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)

Википедия: EDITCONCENSUS [ править ]

  • Википедия: EDITCONCENSUS → Wikipedia: Consensus # Достижение консенсуса посредством редактирования ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

project-space {{ R от орфографической ошибки }} с 157 просмотрами страниц, с аномальным всплеском 1 июня 2019 года. Никаких изменений с момента создания в 2013 году. Дудхр ( разговор ) 05:18, 6 мая 2021 года (UTC)

  • Keep , распространенная орфографическая ошибка, использовалась много раз . Разрывать эти старые ссылки бессмысленно. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 5:41, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per J947. Most redirects are not edited after creation (North Pennines AONB has been unedited since creation in 2005 for example), so that part of the nomination is a big "so what?". It's also worth noting that Concensus exists as redirect to Consensus decision making (the same target as Consensus) and is a well-used redirect, further demonstrating the plausibility of this redirect. Finally, the nomination doesn't indicate what benefits will arise from deletion, which is likely because there wont be any. Thryduulf (talk) 10:47, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per above. Mattx8y (talk) 16:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Шаблон: от R до ca [ править ]

  • Шаблон: R в CA → Шаблон: R в инициализм ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Не используется и не особо полезен. История страниц говорит, что «Ca» - это сокращение от «общепринятой аббревиатуры», но это совсем не очевидно (по крайней мере, {{ r from ab }}, созданное тем же пользователем, похоже на «abbreviation»). Pokechu22 ( разговорное ) 03:52, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. When I saw this title in the list I was wondering why we needed to track specifically redirects to Canada or California? A redirect to a Catalan language name/term would be more plausible, but the correct way to do that is {{R to other language|ca}}. Further "common abbreviation" is not a listed use at the CA dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 10:56, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and Thryduulf. Mattx8y (talk) 16:47, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

2007 Trolley Square shooting, Salt Lake City[edit]

  • 2007 Стрельба на Троллейбусе, Солт-Лейк-Сити → Стрельба на Троллей-сквер ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Невероятное перенаправление, существовало только ~ 8 минут как не обсуждаемое действие, поэтому маловероятно, что будут какие-либо входящие внешние ссылки. Элли ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 01:37, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Держите , я думаю, у этого есть довольно разумное естественное устранение неоднозначности. Изучив ситуацию, связанную с быстрым перемещением страниц этим одним редактором, я понял, были ли удалены эти перенаправления, чтобы воспрепятствовать такому поведению. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:45, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
    • @ J947 : Но я не понимаю, почему это разумное естественное устранение неоднозначности. "Стрельба на Троллей-сквер 2007" есть, конечно, но добавление "Солт-Лейк-Сити" после не имеет смысла. Элли ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 01:48, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
      • Мне это кажется вполне разумным. Часто такой устранитель неоднозначности запятых добавляется в последнюю очередь, даже когда он не нужен. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:55, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
        • @ J947 : конечно, но правильный способ сделать это - «2007 Троллей-сквер, стрельба в Солт-Лейк-Сити» - смешивать места до и после события не имеет смысла. Это не «стрельба на Троллейной площади», которая произошла в Солт-Лейк-Сити - это стрельба на «Троллей-сквер в Солт-Лейк-Сити». Элли ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 01:58, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
          • Часто такой устранитель неоднозначности запятой добавляется как бы запоздалая мысль, когда читатели ищут. Запятая действует как in . Извините, если я не понимаю. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 2:06, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраните и пометьте {{ R от ненужного значения }}. Мишень касается стрельбы, которая произошла на Троллей-сквер в Солт-Лейк-Сити в 2007 году, поэтому переадресация верна, безвредна и может помочь некоторым читателям. Тридуульф ( разговор ) 11:01, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Слабая крепость , помеченная как Thryduulf. Это не вредный редирект и, вероятно, может быть использован, но на самом деле это не то, за что я бы пошел. Ватицидальный пророк 04:49, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Съемки фестиваля урожая на шоссе 91, Лас-Вегас, 2017 [ править ]

  • Съемки на Фестивале урожая Route 91, Лас-Вегас, 2017 → Съемки в Лас-Вегасе, 2017 ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Невероятное перенаправление, существовало только ~ 20 минут как не обсуждаемое действие, поэтому маловероятно, что будут какие-либо входящие внешние ссылки. Элли ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 01:34, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)

  • Держите как можно более правильным и безвредным. Удаление не приносит пользы, но его сохранение может помочь кому-то найти то, что они ищут. Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 11:02, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить : в отличие от другого такого перенаправления, это не совсем правильно по причинам, обсуждаемым в ANI - это место не является наиболее связанным со стрельбой. Учитывая это, это не особенно полезно. Ватицидальный пророк 04:48, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Ледниковое отступление [ править ]

  • Отступление ледников → Отступление ледников с 1850 г. ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             
  • Отступление ледников → Отступление ледников , так как 1850 ( ток · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это использовалось для перенаправления на ледниковое движение , что логично - вместо перехода к статье о конкретном геологическом периоде. Но отступление ледников с 1850 года - это FA и больше по теме, чем старая цель. Вдобавок ко всему , движение ледников связано с отступлением ледников с 1850 года - так что, может быть, лучше просто идти прямо туда, если / пока не улучшится движение ледников . Другой вариант - сделать отступление ледника (значения) PT, но я не уверен, что это более полезно. Даб также нужно исправить, потому что в настоящее время он написан так, как будто отступление ледника - это PT. МБ 01:33, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

  • Еще один фактор, который следует учитывать, заключается в том, что я изначально интерпретировал перенаправление как курорт среди ледников. Здесь так неоднозначно. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:49, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Связанный редирект. -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:57, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацелите и на движение ледников , и отрегулируйте шляпку там, чтобы указать отступление ледников с 1850 года в качестве вероятной альтернативной цели. BD2412 T 02:30, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Lots of ambiguity here. Possibly also look at redirect to Glacier mass balance as that explains the process of both glacier retreat and advance.--MONGO (talk) 05:30, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I changed the redirects. Even though it is a natural phenomenon that has always happened, right now the research focus is the current retreat caused by global warming. It is a similar case to climate change, which refers to the current change. Vpab15 (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Я создал запрос на переезд на Обсуждение: Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850 # Requested_move_7_May_2021, поскольку я считаю, что основной темой является текущее отступление. Надеюсь, обсуждение поможет определить лучшую цель здесь. Vpab15 ( разговор ) 16:49, 7 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Сохраните оба , добавьте {{ for }} {{ about }} сноску к отступлению ледника (значение) на цели и обновите страницу мазка. Я собирался сказать переместить текущую страницу-мазок на одну из этих страниц, но я действительно думаю, что статья с 1850 года является основной темой. Движение ледников , баланс массы ледников и кое-что о ледниковых курортах / туризме следует добавить к этому пункту, но не уверен, какие связи это будет задействовано. Mdewman6 ( разговорное ) 17:12, 8 мая 2021 (UTC)
An {{about}} hatnote is probably better here. The dab page should definitely also include Deglaciation. Retargeting to deglaciation could also be considered, with appropriate links/hatnotes there. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:00, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Ettan fotboll[edit]

  • Ettan fotboll → Ettan Fotboll  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not really needed since it's so close to the main article. Jonteemil (talk) 01:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Держите , нормально {{ R от неправильной капитализации }}. См. ВРЕДНО . -  J947 ‡ сообщение ⁓ редактирует 1:37, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте J947. Совершенно нормальный и совершенно безобидный {{ R от miscapitalisation }}, который поможет читателям добраться до искомого контента (некоторые методы поиска и просмотра Википедии чувствительны к регистру). Тридуульф ( разговорное ) 11:05, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте J947 и Thryduulf. Этот редирект ничему не повредит и на самом деле очень полезен для читателей. С уважением, SONIC 678 13:36, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Соблюдайте вышеизложенное. Поиск в Google показывает, что обе капитализации находят хоть какое-то применение, это совершенно неуместный стандарт {{ R от неправильной капитализации }}. 192.76.8.91 ( разговорное ) 15:22, 6 мая 2021 (UTC)
Примечание: это обсуждение было включено в список обсуждений ассоциаций футбольных ассоциаций на страницах WikiProject Football . Гигантский снеговик 10:54, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Оставьте как указано выше. Гигантский снеговик 11:00, 7 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Быстрое удержание ; посмотрите WP: POFR и найдите слово «капитал». Такая ситуация прямо разрешена директивой высокого уровня. Резервное копирование Nyttend ( обсуждение ) 12:33, 8 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

5 мая [ править ]

Рубашка свидетеля Леброна [ править ]

  • Рубашка свидетеля Леброна → Леброн Джеймс ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Закрытие:  (@subpage)  ]             

Удалить - маловероятный поисковый запрос и на данный момент в статье не обсуждается. AllegedlyHuman ( разговор ) 18:53, 16 апреля 2021 (UTC)

  • This was part of the "we are all witnesses" advertising campaign that's mentioned at Nike, Inc.#Sponsorship. Don't know if it's worth keeping, though. - Eureka Lott 18:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Nike, Inc.. Jay (talk) 17:42, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    What I meant was Nike, Inc.#Sponsorship. Jay (talk) 14:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 19:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Перенацеливание на Nike, Inc. # Sponsorship , учитывая, что это там обсуждается. Тамвин ( разговор ) 20:07, 23 апреля 2021 г. (UTC) Переосмысление этого вопроса , поскольку на этой странице, похоже, не упоминается конкретно рубашка. Тамвин ( разговор ) 02:36, 24 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Удалить Вот пресс-релиз с упоминанием футболок Свидетелей. [6] Непонятная тема зависит от того, насколько дешевы, по нашему мнению, перенаправления ( Википедия: перенаправления дешевы или Википедия: перенаправления стоят дорого ). - Багумба ( доклад ) 11:15, 27 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
Пожалуйста, добавьте новые комментарии под этим уведомлением. Спасибо,подписано, разговор Росгилла 00:12, 6 мая 2021 г. (UTC)

Big 11 [ править ]

  • Big 11 → Big Ten Conference ( обсуждение · ссылки · история · статистика ) [Closure:  (@subpage)  ]             

Это перенаправление было создано, когда Конференция Большой Десяти насчитывала одиннадцать (11) организаций-членов. Сейчас в нем четырнадцать (14) членов, поэтому перенаправление «Большой 11» на Конференцию Большой Десяти просто приведет к неоправданной путанице. Хозяин все ( обсуждение ) 18:05, 16 апр 2021 (UTC)

  • Держи . Перенаправления дешевы, и нет ничего более актуального, на что «Большая 11» могла бы перенаправить. Я не заметил никакой путаницы по поводу перенаправления, особенно с учетом того, что на конференции было 11 участников чуть больше десяти лет назад или около того. JackFromReedsburg ( Обсуждение | вклад ) 14:32, 17 апреля 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The redirect makes no sense. Jay (talk) 17:37, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete Inaccurate, frivolous.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 02:49, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Уточните это как {{ R от неправильного названия }} до расширения Big Ten Conference # 1990: Penn State, где это объясняется. Я не видел особого мнения о конкурирующем использовании за пределами парка в KCK, о котором не говорится в Википедии, за исключением упоминания имени. - T avix ( разговор ) 03:05, 28 апреля 2021 г. (UTC)
  • Уточните , согласно Tavix, как «Большая 11» объясняется в этом разделе. Обсуждение Hog Farm 04:58, 1 мая 2021 г. (UTC)
Переставлено для более тщательного обсуждения и более четкого консенсуса.
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Arcade tournament[edit]

  • Arcade tournament → Arcade game  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at Arcade game or the recently split Arcade video game. The page history shows that this was just a spam page fifteen years ago. IceWelder [✉] 09:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Esports for consistency with redirects like Gaming tournament. A google search shows that this is the name for a gaming tournament that takes place on arcade machines. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment are pinball machine tournaments esports? "gaming tournament" is a "gambling tournament" in 20th-century English. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to List of esports leagues and tournaments. Jay (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Corporate media[edit]

  • Corporate media → Media conglomerate  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Википедия: Перенаправления для обсуждения / Журнал / 27 марта 2021 г. § Корпоративные СМИ - процедурное закрытие

Я думаю, нам следует еще раз обсудить это. Первый RfD закрылся и предпочел отправить недавно перенаправленную статью в AfD . AfD закрылся как удаление, но через несколько дней перенаправление было создано заново. Итак, мы снова здесь. В прошлый раз перенаправление было нацелено на концентрацию владения СМИ , на этот раз оно нацелено на медиа-конгломерат . Я думаю, что эта цель лучше, чем предыдущая, но все же не "правильная" ИМО. Я считаю, что в Википедии должно быть что-то по этой теме, будь то перенаправление, страница с меткой или заглушка. Возможно, я склоняюсь к странице мазка.

As an aside, I'm not comfortable with how this situation was procedurally handled. I think that it would have been better to at first discuss the merits of the redirect at RfD and if a consensus to delete occurred, it would be sent to AfD. That said, the old article due to its importance probably should've been discussed at AfD. I don't know really, but it seems wrong to end up back at RfD again.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 19:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I created this redirect today. As the deleted article was apparently very old I think it is important to put something at that title, and the current target seemed to be the best of two options discussed at the AfD. A disambiguation page would also be an excellent idea. I've got no strong views on the final outcome, just that it shouldn't be left empty. User:GKFXtalk 20:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep "Corporate media" refers to media which is owned by a corporation, and "Media conglomerate seems o be the best title we've got. SCP-053 (talk) 02:14, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Concentration of media ownership - This more accurately reflects the "corporate media" that I see discussed by politicians and reliable sources. Jdcomix (talk) 00:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Would Public relations be a plausible dab entry? If so, disambiguate between concentration of media ownership, media conglomerate and public relations. feminist (talk) 04:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Disambig with Concentration of media ownership and Media conglomerate. Jay (talk) 18:20, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Computer game[edit]

  • Computer game → PC game  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

[Moved discussion from Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games. Permalink to archived discussion]

Redirect computer game to video game, as RSes don't use "computer game" to refer exclusively to PC games, and adjust the leads appropriately. We could get into the nitty-gritty of regional differences but we'd need a RS saying that one is BrE, one is AmE, etc.

If anyone needs them, here are some random examples of British RSes using "computer game" and "video game" as interchangeable terms: BBC, BBC, Guardian, Guardian, Times, Independent. Popcornfud (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Oppose although I agree the terms are confirmed to be interchangeable, I don't believe it is more common than referring to PC games at the moment. I still think having a Computer game be the disambiguation page solves this problem. We don't want the same discussion in the future for the opposite reason.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 12:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Support I acknowledge the change as being more correct in designation than the current manner it's handled, which is on basis of colloquial use as opposed to definition. If the change is not made in the manner suggested by Popcornfud, then, at the very least, I feel a compromise should be made wherein the term redirects to the disambiguation and that the disambiguation should be adjusted to accommodate accordingly. Similar to what TheJoebro64 suggested with a little bit of tweaking. EDIT: I see Dissident93's suggestion -presented below- as the most appropriate course of action currently on the table. Fact Scanner (talk) 13:48, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Support and simply add a hatnote regarding PC game at the top of the page. No real need to create a disambiguation page if that suffices. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:04, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • comment @Dissident93: We wouldn't be creating a new Disambiguation. There already is one that exists because there's already other possible terms that computer game can mean. Computer game (disambiguation) which is why JoeBro64 and I suggested it just be the disambiguation page (and include an entry for video games).Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 12:30, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Support. Believe it or not, some people really call video games of any kind "computer games", hence why the retarget and hatnote would be a sensible option. Dominicmgm (talk) 20:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support retarget to video game. Terms are used interchangeably and as said above, a hatnote would resolve any disambiguation issues with "PC game". czar 19:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata redirects[edit]

  • Ann Brockman (Q19037277) → Ann Brockman (writer)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Josephine Pullein-Thompson (Q17106618) → Josephine Pullein-Thompson  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Juliana Popjoy (Q18732841) → Juliana Popjoy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Jeanine Pretty on Top (Q98593469) → Janine Pease  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Medicine Snake Woman (Q98593458) → Natawista Iksina  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Teresa Bergman (Q75856022) → Teresa Bergman  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Brooke Roberts (Q102049390) → Brooke Roberts (entrepreneur)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Elizabeth Smith (Q85887568) → Elizabeth Grant  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Ndamira Catherine Atwakire (Q105883492) → Ndamira Atwakire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Sarah Johnson (Q62026461) → Sarah Johnson (Mount Vernon)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Ellen Craft (Q18528650) → Ellen and William Craft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]

Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 4#Wikidata-style redirects * Pppery * it has begun... 22:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Support - I cannot think of a reason to maintain them. I accidentally created the last two when working a list of redlinks from a list of desired articles. If there is a way to speed up the process for these two - like blanking the page and requesting an author requested deletion, I would be happy to do that.–CaroleHenson (talk) 22:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Possible oppose At least for the ones I am familiar with. Many of these are alternative names of women, and at different times different names were used. For example, Janine Pease has been known as Janine Windy Boy, Janine Pretty on Top and various combinations thereof . Natawista Iksina is also spelled something like Na’toy ist’ ina, and she had several English language names (Medicine Snake Woman, Holy Snake, Mrs. Alexander Culbertson, etc…) and so on. Without appropriate redirects we could wind up with two separate articles. So I guess I’m only here to express a concern that we not lose the ability to link wiki data to the correct article. I presume there’s some discrepancy between the main article titles on WP and linking the right people to wiki data somehow? Montanabw(talk) 23:11, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Montanabw I am just trying to understand. I am not sure why these redirects with Wikidata IDs are needed. If there are alternate spellings, couldn't redirects be created like Janine Windy Boy to redirect to Janine Pease, per Wikipedia:Redirects are cheap (for redirects that make sense and are useful). Optionally, if the names are uniformly known as something other than the article title, perhaps the article title could be moved to the frequently known name, per WP:COMMONNAME?–CaroleHenson (talk) 08:43, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • (edit conflict) Why do these need to be brought to RfD? What is the purpose in doing that? Just noting also that there's attribution at Special:Permalink/998164861 for the content of a later article, which needs to be preserved in some manner.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all. I can't work out what these redirects are even for.. but since there are plenty of examples of similar ones that have been removed, these ought to be too. Ajf773 (talk) 08:38, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support I accidentally created one of those - I thought I'd flagged it for deletion at the time but I must have forgotten... As far as I'm concerned they should be deleted (after checking a proper title for the article for that woman exists) -interestingly, I have no note of having done an Elizabeth Grant so I must have been completely mad that day. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 09:14, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Plantation Workers' Congress[edit]

  • Plantation Workers' Congress → Vadivel Suresh  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target and relation remains unclear following an internet search, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 18:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Boston Misunderstanding[edit]

  • Boston Misunderstanding → Boston Massacre  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This does not seem to be an attested alternative name for the Boston Massacre. The only relevant hits I found while searching were satirical (eg: [7]). -- Tavix (talk) 23:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete seems like a joke redirect.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 03:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak keep. If there are satirical references, like the one linked, then this may be of use to readers who are looking up the reference to figure out what it's talking about. Tamwin (talk) 19:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
If it’s just one I don’t think it’s enough to keep this.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 00:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
It isn't the only reference though: [8] plus another one I can't add because it's on the spam blacklist. Now, admittedly, that's not a ton, which is why it's a weak keep. Tamwin (talk) 02:47, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
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Jose Fraction[edit]

  • Jose Fraction → Kerala Congress (M)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Just a term used in the article. No search results or importance. - The9Man (Talk) 09:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Fixed malformed nomination, you need to specify the target of the redirect. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    • I just used Twinkle. Thanks anyway. - The9Man (Talk) 14:38, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Rename to "Jose faction". The name is a typo. The target article too needs to cleanup. Jay (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Move to "Jose faction" and then Delete "Jose Fraction". Jay (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Renaming redirects is usually a bad idea.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Wow! I can keep going over this for hours and still not be wiser: If a redirect page does not redirect to the page it would need to be redirecting to, then the only viable strategy that respects page histories is to adapt the redirect on that page, without moving the page. Jay (talk) 11:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving redirects is pretty much benefitless. Just create a new redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving preserves page history. Jay (talk) 22:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving confuses page history. And there's not that much to preserve.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    I have cleaned up the target article and replaced fraction with faction everywhere. Jay (talk) 21:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment fraction (politics) redirects to parliamentary group, though I can't tell whether it's a WP:FORRED or what. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Strnumber[edit]

  • Template:Strnumber → Template:Str number  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Template:Strfind0 → Template:Str find0  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused template redirects User:GKFXtalk 11:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Strong keep spelling variation, and expected that function names should be singular, at least to search it out -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2021 (UTC) Duplicate text by both me and 67.70 merged — User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • There is a convention among these functions to start them with Str_ rather than just Str, in the interests of readability: see Template:String-handling templates. While it's not perfectly consistent it does mean that these redirects are less useful, and as can be seen no-one has transcluded them. User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
      • They look like other programming/macro language forms for these functions, so good for WP:RKEEP searching for these templates. Being unused isn't a specific WP:RDELETE; and generally redirects are WP:CHEAP, so I think these two should remain if there's no other reason to delete them -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
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Page merge[edit]

  • Page merge → Merge  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unhelpful/confusing redirect. Used to redirect cross-namespace to Wikipedia:Proposed mergers before being turned into a redirect to the disambiguation page Merge (disambiguation) where I see no relevant entry. (There is a hatnote linking to Wikipedia:Merging there, however.) Delete, or perhaps redirect to Kernel same-page merging instead? Tea2min (talk) 13:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Not useful, no links or views. Jay (talk) 21:15, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Power armor in Warhammer[edit]

  • Power armor in Warhammer → Warhammer 40,000  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

There is no mention of power armour in the target article. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I think I know the history of this. Many years ago, in the page on Power armor, there was a detailed discussion about how it is used in the one case. I created a page called Power Armor in Warhammer, moved the details, and left a summary and link in the Power Armor article. I suspect that, in the years since, someone folded that into the general Warhammer page, and put in a redirect. Then someone must have updated the Warhammer page. I have no opinion about what the Warhammer page should contain. My only interest had been cleaning up the Power Armor page. Stuart Strahl (talk) 21:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

I think I figured out what happened here. You split the warhammer 40,000 material out of the power armour article and put it in a separate page during cleanup. The content was then merged into a general article on warhammer 40,000 equipment at Equipment of the Imperium (Warhammer 40,000). This page was then moved to Equipment of the Imperium, then Equipment of the Imperium in Warhammer 40,000, under which title it was deleted in 2011 following the AfD nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Equipment of the Imperium in Warhammer 40,000. For some reason a bot had retargeted this redirect to the main Warhammer 40,000 article in 2010, so this was missed for G8 deletion when cleaning up after the article deletion. Either way the content in the page history has been through AfD (I think), the article the redirect is supposed to be targeting hasn't existed for a decade and the current target doesn't include anything relevant, so I think this can be deleted. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Cote web[edit]

  • Template:Cote web → Template:Cite web  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Orphaned typo redirect with 2 pageviews; implausible to touch type ({{Vopr ern}} is a more likely typo) Dudhhr (talk) 02:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep per Wikipedia:Redirect#K5. When I created it, there was at least one transclusion, which violated the guideline at WP:REDNOT and clutters up reports like Special:WantedTemplates. The existence of such a transclusion demonstrates that it is a plausible typo (the letter "o" is one letter away from "i" on the keyboard). The documentation at {{R from misspelling}} says: Use this rcat template in any namespace. The template is orphaned because at least one editor regularly fixes transclusions of redirects that are typos based on this report and other pages like it. It should be trivial for a bot to fix transclusions of templates that are tagged with {{R from misspelling}}, if having them around is a problem. RFD closer: Please note that I have cited multiple guidelines in my !vote. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Actual policy says A) to create redirects for likely misspellings, and "one person did this once in 21 years" isn't evidence of that; and B) mildly discourages redirects in templatespace compared to other namespaces. You also seem to be very confused about where the guidelines come from. —Cryptic 03:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Can you please provide a link to this policy? Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Created in response to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 21#Template:Cute news. Implausible typo not in use on any page. No more useful than previously deleted examples such as {{ctie book}} (deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 10#Template:Ctie book). Such misspellings should be corrected at source not via redirect to prevent confusion (reason for deletion #2) and avoid the risk of making it unreasonably difficult (reason for deletion #1) for bots, automated systems and searches to deal effectively with templated citations. DrKay (talk) 05:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete G3 as this was very obviously created to make a point about a deletion discussion the creator disagreed with, and serves no other purpose. Delete on its own merit per DrKay and per the previous discussion. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:18, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    See also Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 May 4#Template:Cute news. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    Also, propose that Jonesey95 be topic-banned from creation of redirects in any namespace. The solution to one typo transclusion "clutter[ing] up reports like Special:WantedTemplates" is to correct the single typo, not create a whole new redirect with its attendant maintenance issues just for a single error. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:22, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Please strike this bad faith accusation immediately. I have provided a link showing that this typo was trancluded at the time of its creation, and I have provided links to guidelines and documentation showing why I created it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, this might fall under WP:R3 as a recently created implausible typo. Creating a redirect for a single use typo is just silly - if there are 1 or two transclusions of a misspelled template then the obvious solution is to fix those transclusions, rather than making a load of redirects for every possible typo of "Cite web". 192.76.8.91 (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete typo redirects are for the benefit of readers, not editors. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:47, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Patrice Synthea[edit]

  • Patrice Synthea → Collide (band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

No mention at target page. Listed as a writer or performer on 3 different albums (each with questionable notability) only in credits. Another WP:XY situation. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 18:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - readers will get better info by having search results returned. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Chris Candelaria[edit]

  • Chris Candelaria → Collide (band)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned on target page. Two Chris Candelarias turn up on a Wikipedia search. One as a musician who has contributed to a couple tracks to the band Collide as writer or performer, another as an Australian rules football player. No logical target per WP:XY. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Delete - search results are better. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 15:15, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

May 4[edit]

Be urutan[edit]

  • Be urutan → Saucisson  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This appears to be the name of a similar sausage in Malay cuisine, but the target only discusses French cuisine. Delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Redirect to Balinese cuisine. Urutan is a type of Balinese sausage. The "Be" part translates to meat. Just because it resembles Saucisson doesn't mean it is the exact same. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Banner shell[edit]

  • Template:Banner shell → Template:WikiProject banner shell  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Suggest retarget to Template:Banner holder. Shell is mostly a synonym of holder. One would expect this template name to go to the general talk page banner holder, not to the WikiProject one. This only has 300 transclusions and is low-usage, so can be replaced without disruption. Common & expected redirects to the talk page template may encourage users to use the banner holder template, which is currently relatively low usage itself, and that would aid with our talk page clutter problem. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Template:Banner holder per nom. That is indeed a better target. WP:SURPRISE applies here. I am the creator of the redirect.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  15:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Support per nom and creator. Mathglot (talk) 07:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Cite jorunal[edit]

  • Template:Cite jorunal → Template:Cite journal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Created in response to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 21#Template:Cute news. Implausible typo not in use on any page. No more useful than previously deleted examples such as {{ctie book}} (deleted at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2018 December 10#Template:Ctie book). Such misspellings should be corrected at source not via redirect to prevent confusion (reason for deletion #2) and avoid the risk of making it unreasonably difficult (reason for deletion #1) for bots, automated systems and searches to deal effectively with templated citations. DrKay (talk) 12:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. There is a significantly higher bar for utility of typo redirects in template space than article space, and this does not meet that bar. Thryduulf (talk) 12:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Wikipedia:Redirect#K5. When I created it, there was at least one transclusion, which violated the guideline at WP:REDNOT and clutters up reports like Special:WantedTemplates. The existence of such a transclusion demonstrates that it is a plausible typo. The documentation at {{R from misspelling}} says: Use this rcat template in any namespace. It should be trivial for a bot to fix transclusions of templates that are tagged with {{R from misspelling}}, which would address the nominator's valid reasons #1 and #2 above. RFD closer: Please note that I have cited multiple guidelines in my !vote. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: Ain't doing us any harm to have it. pbp 13:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete, pointless. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete typo redirects are for the benefit of readers, not editors. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete easier and better to fix the typo instead of creating template redirect; will also tell editors in preview that the template is redlinked Dudhhr (talk) 06:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. For the reasons mentioned above. --Bsherr (talk) 06:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

HomePage[edit]

  • HomePage → Main Page  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2012 October 20 § HomePage – No consensus
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 26 § HomePage – No consensus

This page has been listed on the RfD twice. However, I still feel that this redirect may not have the best target. Although this is a historical name of the Main Page, some wikis don't have it, e.g. zh:HomePage. Yet fr:HomePage gives a different target. To maintain the "See the current version of this page on Wikipedia" on wp.nost, special code could be used to link to Main Page instead. I'm not sure what to do with this redirect. 54nd60x (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Oppose - the main page of wikipedia seems like clearly the most likely place someone typing "Home Page" would be looking to go. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget. In the 2020 discussion I wrote "While we should always be careful not to break links, especially old links, unnecessarily we do need to balance that with accessibility of current uses. In this specific case there is a hatnote at home page leading to the main page but one in the other direction would not be appropriate, so the balance imo is clearly in favour of the retargetting.". In the 2012 discussion I !voted to retarget per an ip editor who wrote "simple and clear {{R from alternate capitalization}}, and we already have a hatnote on the page to point to Wikipedia's entry point. Clearly we have an encyclopedic topic for that title, and the main page is not encyclopedic content (which is why some other language wikipedias have moved it into portalspace) ; It hasn't been the main page since 2001, the only year it was the main page.". Nothing has changed in the past 8½ years or the past 1 year to change my mind - readers will still better served by arriving at Home page with a hatnote to the main page than the main page with no link to the encyclopaedia article. Thryduulf (talk) 12:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: I'm not sure about keeping this redirect. For example, Home is the name of the main page on foundation.wikimedia.org, and that doesn't give us a reason to use it as the name of our home page. However, Main Page is the current name of our main page, and on almost every wiki, it redirects to the main page on their wiki, or otherwise it's the name of their main page. Homepage redirects to Home page, but HomePage with an uppercase P redirects to Main Page? I know this is for historical reasons, but both should target to the same page, and it doesn't make too many sense to have two nearly identical titles pointing to different pages. 54nd60x (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Oppose for mushy historical reasons as well as a lack of need. When you type in "Home page" in the search bar , the camel case version is the 5th(!) result down, and is not bolded. Indeed, the properly-capitalized Home page gets ~900 views a day, whereas the camel case HomePage gets less than 100 views a day, presumably those going down Wikipedia memory lane.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 13:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • For those unaware, "HomePage" was the name of the main page of Wikis using UseModWiki, which included the English Wikipedia from January 2001 to January 2002. It's in camel case because that's how things were done back in those days. The reason some "emotion" is involved in the matter is because the page contains the very first edit to Wikipedia, which was used back when it was Wikipedia's main page. Therefore, the current target is the most historically accurate, as well as the relative obscurity of concept of other websites' home pages that doesn't justify a retarget IMO.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 13:12, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • But why should Homepage redirect to Home page then? 54nd60x (talk) 13:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Because it lacks the history of the camelcase version.  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 13:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per the keep arguments in the prior RfD's, John M Wolfson's comments above - and really the lack of any problem or pressing need to retarget this. — xaosflux Talk 13:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per John M Wolfson. This *was* the main page once, so it seems reasonable for it still to redirect there, given that no readers are being harmed.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • In the previous discussion, I said:

    Retarget The time to care about nineteen-year-old (!) history to this extent passed long ago. What matters now is what the most logical target for "HomePage" is, and home page, which already has a hatnote to Main Page, seems clearly more logical. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:44, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

    Nothing has changed since other than it now being twenty-year-old history, and I still feel that the redirect should be retargeted. * Pppery * it has begun... 14:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I agree that HomePage may not be best to be redirected to Main Page without a hatnote, but with that said, I do want to mention an example: Main Page is not the best name for our main page, but it's still used without a hatnote as that has stuck for a really long time. But how significant is the use of HomePage? wp.fr and wp.zh don't use it the way we do, but I do believe that this history should be preserved. 54nd60x (talk) 14:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    Well for one, the phrase "HomePage" is clearly in English - so that French and Chinese projects don't use it isn't really something that concerns me. — xaosflux Talk 18:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Look, I know we prefer to pretend that we don't care about the ancient history of the project, but who are we kidding? This page was the main page back in 2001, and keeping it as a pointer to that page retains that history. If you want the very serious justification that pretends we're emotionless robots, there may still be a link somewhere that assumes that HomePage points at the main page. Tamwin (talk) 18:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    We do care about old history, but we cannot let it get in the way of the needs of today. In this case we can maintain the link to the history with a hatnote at Home page - which already exists. This is also how we manage every other redirect we retarget when there is (or even might be) the possibility of incoming external links. Thryduulf (talk) 09:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    I'd agree if I thought that someone was likely to use camelcase. That's pretty unlikely though. In this specific case, I think the historical value of maintaining the redirect's target outstrips the (negligible) value of changing it. Tamwin (talk) 18:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget "homePage" to Home page, which is where such a WP:CAMELCASE redirect should point to. The topic of homepage is home page, and it already contains a hatnote to the Wikipedia Main Page frontpage. If this is not retargetted, the main page needs a hatnote to the encyclopedic topic of a "homepage" -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 01:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Experiment - Turn this into a two entry DAB page with tracking redirects. This is still getting around 1000 page views a month, but we have no idea whether readers are coming from ancient links to the Wikipedia homepage, or whether they're searching for "home page" in a camel case format (after all, camel case is very commonly used in programming). If we get a couple of months of data on where readers coming across this are actually intending to go then this would allow us to make an informed decision on where this should target. I'm not 100% on board with the "Keep for historical reasons" arguments either, while I'm all for preserving the history of the project and ancient pages but we should not be doing so in a manner that is confusing or disruptive for our readers, and retargeting a redirect is hardly erasing the history of the project. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 12:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I understand that retargeting HomePage may not reflect this project's history, but the redirect target is getting in the way of people who may be searching for the term "home page." There's no hatnote on the Main Page (and there shouldn't be.) Main Page has been the name of our main page for such a long time that moving it to a different page would disrupt our site, but HomePage has only been used in 2001 for not a long period of time. Who would type in "HomePage" in the full URL or search bar expecting the main page? 54nd60x (talk) 12:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep: a harmless quirk, and testament to the project's history. I struggle to believe that this particular intonation of capitalisation and space is the cause of any confusion for users looking for the home page article. The only time I trip over redirects for varying capitalisation is when I seldomly type out an (presumed) article URL in my browser. Even in that strained circumstance, I doubt the user is likely to try camel-case. --Inops (talk) 16:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per my nomination in the 2020 discussion. We're not breaking things by retargeting, and considering that the main page is hatnoted at Home page, even user trying to find the main page from this will find the main page. Hog Farm Talk 17:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per 192.76.8.91. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 21:43, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I am not too sure about my opinion. I agree that the redirect should be kept to preserve our history, especially if it contains the first edit to our project. However, I also must note that we shouldn't let something like this get in the way of what our readers are looking for. "(Redirected from {{-r|HomePage)" isn't something that will get shown on the top of our main page, so it's harder to find the page. Retarget to Wikipedia:Main Page history#Appearance. 54nd60x (talk) 09:22, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Proposal would a retarget to Wikipedia:History of the Main Page work for people?  – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 20:07, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Don't retarget to projectspace but I'm fine with any of the other three options, probably slightly preferring a straight keep as is. There are many links to this redirect directed at the main page, so a place where it is easily accessible is ideal. Retargeting a common search term to projectspace is unhelpful when the search term is not related to editing Wikipedia. My stance in the last discussion hasn't change but for the slight increase in pageviews, which could really only be caused by a new link meant to target main page. I don't like harming readers' search, but there are links pointing to this redirect meant to direct clickers to the main page. So that's my argument against retargeting, I guess.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Home page per above. This is a close spelling to the chosen target. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 15:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Sleep with me, I'm not too young[edit]

  • Sleep with me, I'm not too young → ...Baby One More Time (song)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • It's fun to smoke marijuana → Another One Bites the Dust  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unhelpful, orphaned, puerile redirects created by since-permablocked editor. Delete. Lagrange613 05:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete: G6, uncontroversial housekeeping. Clearly just vandalism Joseph2302 (talk) 17:34, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    If it' "just vandalism", why not G3? ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    18:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Come on guys, at least check if it actually is vandalism. It isn't. It's even been discussed on Wikipedia (here and here). It might still be best to delete, but definitely not speedy.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Just because an IP discussed it in 2005, doesn't make it sensible, or at all appropriate as a redirect. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
      • @Joseph2302: It doesn't, but the ip wasn't claiming they were. They said only that it indicated the redirects were not vandalism, which their evidence supports. Thryduulf (talk) 16:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 09:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not useful, and would never rate either a mention on the pages themselves or indeed a dedicated page of their own.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep the second: mentioned at Another One Bites the Dust#Alleged backward masking. The first is more difficult... maybe retarget to Backmasking? -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 16:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep the second as mentioned. The first one isn't even notable as a lyric. "My loneliness is killing me" would be more notable. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep the 2nd because it's mentioned at its target; delete the 1st because it isn't. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete the first and Keep the second. I agree with other editors on the second one - as the whole paragraph in the target article discusses the phrase it should be kept as a plausible search term. Less Unless (talk) 18:29, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:NOTGOOGLE+[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Template:Cute book[edit]

  • Template:Cute book → Template:Cite book  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Created after Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 21#Template:Cute news. No more useful than {{cte bok}}, {{ctie book}}, etc. Such misspellings should be corrected at source not via redirect to prevent confusion (reason for deletion #2) and avoid the risk of making it unreasonably difficult (reason for deletion #1) for bots, automated systems and searches to deal effectively with templated citations. DrKay (talk) 07:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Less useful than {{ctie book}}, since that's at least a plausible typo. ({{cte bok}} is a bit much, but {{cte book}} or {{cite bok}} in isolation would be plausible too.) This is not: unlike those, it's not the sort of typo a hunt-and-pecker might make, and a touch typist won't miss i->u without also doing o->i and k->j for {{cute biij}}. Besides which, most uses of {{R from misspelling}} (to which {{R from typo}} redirects) in the template namespace are to genuine misspellings, not typos, much more so than in mainspace; and the only other missplaced-fingers typo I'm seeing in there is {{cote web}}, itself less than a week old. Full list at quarry:query/54722. Delete. —Cryptic 11:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, Cryptic and my comments at #Template:Cite jorunal. Thryduulf (talk) 12:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Wikipedia:Redirect#K5. When I created it, there was at least one transclusion, which violated the guideline at WP:REDNOT and clutters up reports like Special:WantedTemplates. The existence of such a transclusion demonstrates that it is a plausible typo (the letter "u" is one letter away from "i" on the keyboard). The documentation at {{R from misspelling}} says: Use this rcat template in any namespace. It should be trivial for a bot to fix transclusions of templates that are tagged with {{R from misspelling}}, which would address the nominator's valid reasons #1 and #2 above. RFD closer: Please note that I have cited multiple guidelines in my !vote. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Sure, there are myriad typos people might make, but we don't have to make a redirect to cover every single one of them. That applies to project templates as much as to article titles. It's also a name which actually means something in itself, that has nothing to do with the template it redirects to, so there's extra reason not to have it hanging around distracting people.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Please note that I make redirects only to handle typos that people actually do make, per the link I provided above. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete pointless. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 12:54, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Headbomb, I have explained the point of this redirect above, with links to relevant guidelines. If you have time, can you please elaborate on your argument here? Which of the guidelines that I linked to should be changed if this sort of redirect is pointless? I genuinely do not understand which part of the guidelines I am misunderstanding. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
What about {{vite journal}}? {{cire journal}}? {{citw journal}}? There's nothing special about {{cute book}}, and these unlikely typos just cause maintenance headaches down the line, and are just pointlessly WP:COSTLY. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I find this line of reasoning confusing. Redirects to templates have the same "cost" as redirects to articles. They both render intended content properly, even in the face of minor human fallibility, and both are detected and fixed by gnomes who monitor usages of pages that transclude {{R from misspelling}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:34, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Fix transclusions and delete per Headbomb. The maintenance burden this could potentially cause down the road demonstrates potential harm from this. It's not like it's a search term - making a typo in here is going to be obvious; we don't need to plan for every conceivable error someone could make in attempting to produce a citation template. Hog Farm Talk 18:21, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete typo redirects are for the benefit of readers, not editors. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Elli: Can you please elaborate? If this redirect is deleted, readers will see Template:cute book in an article where this typo is made, instead of the content a properly rendered citation template. How does replacing content with jarring red text benefit readers? – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
      • @Jonesey95: editors will easily see the issue and fix it. We don't want errant Wikitext - the Wikitext of a page should be clear. This is the same reason we're not supposed to link to typo redirects - we don't want typos in articles. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:11, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
        • Editors routinely fail to fix problems that they create. That is why Special:WantedTemplates exists, and why Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia/ISBN errors exists, and why countless error-tracking categories exist. Gnomes monitor these reports and categories, cleaning up errors that other editors create and do not fix themselves. Between the time that the errors are created and the time they are fixed, redirects like this one create a better experience for readers. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak delete as possibly a WP:POINTy response to the linked RfD. Dudhhr (talk) 22:51, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Damien Gottlieb[edit]

  • Damien Gottlieb → Gottlieb  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I first redirected this to an article where the name was mentioned. Large parts of that article turns out to be completely unsourced and partly plain hoax, created by the same editors who have lots of redirects challenged and nominated for deletion. T*U (talk) 06:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Enwiki has nothing about Damien Gottlieb and their connection with the target is not mentioned. Having said that, RfD is not the place to resolve editorial disputes about Gottlieb. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Can't find any notable person with this name. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I couldn't find any Damien Gottlieb that would have any connection to the the arcade game corporation, not mentioned in the target either. Less Unless (talk) 18:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per comments above because I AM TOO LAZY TO WRITE MY OWN! --StaleGuy22 (talk) 15:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Damien Synertek[edit]

  • Damien Synertek → Synertek  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I first redirected this to an article where the name is mentioned. Parts of that article turns out to be a hoax, created by the same editors who created this and also has lots of redirects challenged and nominated for deletion. T*U (talk) 05:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Enwiki has nothing about Damien Synertek and their connection with the target is unclear and not mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and hoax. Creator has been publicizing these random names and associations on youtube as well. [9] to try to promote his YouTube channel and other stuff. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:03, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Awesometown[edit]

  • Awesometown → The Lonely Island  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Awesometown is a common nickname for Valencia, Santa Clarita, California and the adjacent unincorporated area of Valencia, California. It is also sometimes used to refer to Santa Clarita as a whole. Search "awesometown valencia" or "awesometown santa clarita" on Google or any other search engine for proof. Should be changed to disambiguation page. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. Right now, Awesometown as a nickname for Valencia isn't mentioned in any article, so a disambiguation page is a non-starter. If it were mentioned, then disambiguation could be achieved with a hatnote. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Shhhnotsoloud. The only mentions of "Awesometown" I can find on Wikipedia currently relate to the current target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • There are plenty of sources that mention the use of "Awesometown" as a nickname for Valencia and/or Santa Clarita. There is the Los Angeles Times, Curbed, the Santa Clarita Valley Signal, NBC Los Angeles, and the city of Santa Clarita itself. The name "Awesometown" was used by the Newhall Land and Farming Company (which developed Valencia) to advertise Valencia.
    Update: I added the "Awesometown" nickname to the Valencia, Santa Clarita article with a source. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 18:25, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • There are a few mentions that don't relate to the current target, so I'm not sure where the keep as is !voters are coming from. See for example Jack Black, Parry Gripp, and List of city nicknames in California#V. J947's public account 22:09, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Cross over basketball[edit]

  • Cross over basketball → Crossover dribble  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Implausible redirect. "Crossover" as a noun (referring to the basketball dribble) is always spelled as one word. Coincidentally, the word "crossover" is in my username. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 03:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep, sometimes spelt as two words. Readers are using it, so why delete?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment Normally (according to typical Wikipedia convention), it would be Cross over (basketball) with parentheses. I already created Crossover (basketball). "Cross over" is usually only spelled as such when used as a verb. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 04:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
      • Readers (and redirects) don't always follow "Wikipedia convention", as is shown by the pageviews. What is the harm in having this redirect, when it evidently helps readers?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:42, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
        • 152 views in nearly 6 years. Sounds negligible to me. That doesn't count those who search "crossover (basketball)" in the search box and see "cross over basketball." Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 04:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
          • It's less than 5 years. I don't see any cross over results pop up if I type crossover. It's a lot of readers helped. And deleting this redirect is a lot of readers harmed for no reason. How would deleting this redirect benefit the encyclopedia?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
            • That was because I created the redirect Crossover (basketball) on April 16, 2021. And "less than 5 years" is still a very long time. The page received 152 views in that time. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:00, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
              • Answer the question: How would deleting this redirect be beneficial to the encyclopedia?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                • Is the redirect needed or even useful now that we have Crossover (basketball)? Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                  • It's not needed but nothing is. It's still useful to anyone who searches it up, especially through the URL bar. But you didn't answer my question.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                    • The redirect is a pretty implausible search term. As I mentioned earlier, "crossover" (the basketball dribble) is almost always spelled as one word when used as a noun. I initiated the discussion in order to survey other Wikipedians' views on this redirect - not necessarily because I oppose it. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 06:11, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
                      • The readers don't necessarily know that. I'm still seeing no reason why deleting this redirect would benefit Wikipedia.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 06:22, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per J947. Clearly useful for readers and clearly harmless. There is no evidence that deletion will bring any benefits, but it is almost certain that deletion will make it harder for readers to find the content they are looking for. The only justifiable course of action therefore is keeping. Thryduulf (talk) 12:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Note that Cross over basketball originally redirected to Basketball moves before I changed the target to the more specific Crossover dribble on April 28, 2021. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep I believe the redirect is useful. I would actually use the same combination without parentheses. Less Unless (talk) 18:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Substr quick[edit]

  • Template:Substr quick → Template:Str sub old  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Obsolete template redirect - we don’t do long/fast/slow variants of every template any more. User:GKFXtalk 11:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, contains history that I'm inclined to keep. Harmless after all.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment probably should be transwikied to the Templates Wikia -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 01:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str sub old/any[edit]

  • Template:Str sub old/any → Template:Str sub old  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused template redirect User:GKFXtalk 11:32, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, contains history that I'm inclined to keep. Harmless after all.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 04:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment probably should be transwikied to the Templates Wikia -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 01:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

May 3[edit]

Shelley Luther[edit]

  • Shelley Luther → COVID-19 pandemic in Texas  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 June 10 § Shelley Luther – retarget

This redirect should be either deleted or written as its own article. Currently it amounts to juvenile mockery. Jesdisciple (talk) 20:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Redirect to 2020_Texas_State_Senate_election#Special_elections where mentioned. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per AngusWOOF. feminist (+) 06:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Sevmacs (ethnic group of North Macedonia)[edit]

  • Sevmacs (ethnic group of North Macedonia) → Macedonians (ethnic group)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Sevmaks (ethnic group of North Macedonia) → Macedonians (ethnic group)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Normacs (ethnic group of North Macedonia) → Macedonians (ethnic group)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Normaks (ethnic group of North Macedonia) → Macedonians (ethnic group)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]

Recently created redirects from unsourced and unattested, potentially offensive neologisms. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

BarackRoll[edit]

  • BarackRoll → Rickrolling  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Barack Roll → Rickrolling#Examples  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This was created as an article, which was redirected per AfD, but is not currently explained at the target. The term is mentioned in multiple articles, but Hugh Atkin seems to be the best option. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
18:16, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Redirect to Hugh Atkin (or Hugh Atkin#Career) per nom. IceWelder [✉] 08:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Mets-Yankees rivalry[edit]

  • Template:Mets-Yankees rivalry → Template:MLB rivalries  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Redirect was created after template moved to Template:Mets–Yankees rivalry, then the template was deleted and this redirect retargeted. Since Template:Mets–Yankees rivalry does not exist, neither should this redirect. No links or transclusions. Bsherr (talk) 16:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Fear the Hunters[edit]

  • Fear the Hunters → List of The Walking Dead episodes  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Isn't mentioned in the article and no idea what alternative name it is referring to. Gonnym (talk) 15:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Delete: That user is/was well-known (see their talk page) for prematurely creating redirects for Walking Dead episodes based on rumors/unverified reports regarding titles for upcoming episodes. Drovethrughosts (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to The Walking Dead (comic book). This is the title for Volume 11 as listed there. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Professional agrologist[edit]

  • Professional agrologist → Agriculturist  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A new redir has been placed at Professional agrologist, pointing to Agriculturist, while also leaving the original content in the former. Now, I'm no expert, but to me those don't look like they're the same thing, and as such I don't think the redir is justified (I would have said hatnotes or 'see also' could have been added instead). But rather than just remove the redir, I'm after second opinions here. Thanks, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:59, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore article without prejudice to AfD per WP:BLAR. Thryduulf (talk) 00:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Restore article as above. The bold redirect was recent. This should then be discussed whether agrologist and agriculturalist should remain split or merged. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Wild Wild West 2[edit]

  • Wild Wild West 2 → Wild Wild West  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

There was no Wild Wild West 2. Since the movie was a critical and financial failure there may never be. This is just pure WP:CRYSTAL material. Dominicmgm (talk) 09:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Agree. --Bsherr (talk) 17:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom --Lenticel (talk) 00:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete the article doesn’t even mention a potential sequel and this can easily be recreated if for some reason they later decide to make one.--65.92.163.98 (talk) 03:20, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:MANDARINS[edit]

  • Wikipedia:MANDARINS → Wikipedia:No vested contributors  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
Previous RfDs for this redirect:
  • Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 January 24 § Wikipedia:MANDARINS – keep

As far as I can tell, there is no mention of "mandarins" within the target article. Kokopelli7309 (talk) 22:47, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak keep per the previous nomination. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 22:57, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom; the redirect doesn't seem very natural. Tamwin (talk) 19:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak delete per nom. -- dylx (t | c) 12:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, best not to delete old shortcuts. It's been used. Note this short discussion over this redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:54, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str rt[edit]

  • Template:Str rt → Template:Str right  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused, unclear template redirect. User:GKFXtalk 09:22, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • keep spelling variation, as "str" is clearly abbreviation for "string", rt is clearly abbreviation for "right"; and a commonly used abbreviation for right. (indeed, some programming languages use RT instead of RIGHT) -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:51, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • As mentioned above the Str_ part is OK and fits a convention, it's the rt that I object to. I wouldn't expect people to search for rt if they meant "right", and it would not be that clear if part of template markup. User:GKFXtalk 18:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
      • RT is a common abbreviation for right, so I would think that some people would search this way, and it probably is a WP:CHEAP redirect as it is. RT is a recognized abbreviation for right [10] and found in some programming languages [11] ; so I think it is a reasoanble redirect and search term -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete. There's no similar redirect for Template:Str left, so I think this is more confusing than clarifying. --Bsherr (talk) 17:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str rep all[edit]

  • Template:Str rep all → Template:Replace  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Unused template redirect. User:GKFXtalk 07:16, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep it does what it says, it is the complement to {{Str rep}} which allows replacement of all instances. Therefore it is useful in relation to the naming of the other function, "Str rep" atleast for searching -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 15:01, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. This was from before Lua modules, now not needed ({{Replace}} does the job and is well documented, also wrt number of replacements). Extra names is needlessly confusing. - (creator) DePiep (talk) 14:29, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:51, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I agree that the relation to Template:Str rep makes the case for preserving the redirect. --Bsherr (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Tinkling[edit]

  • Tinkling → Urination  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The article Urination does not say that tinkling is a euphemism for urination (in fact it describes tinkling as a sound). I don't think having this redirect is helpful and a better target may be soft redirect to wikt. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 08:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Soft retarget to wiktionary:tinkling --Lenticel (talk) 00:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Damien Monteith[edit]

  • Damien Monteith → Damien#M  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Originally linked to a list where the name linked to another list, which linked back to the first list ... T*U (talk) 07:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Indeed, not functional. --Bsherr (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete no notable person of such a name. Searches point to a random engineer person or the Glee cast members Damian McGinty and Cory Monteith AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • delete per above --Lenticel (talk) 03:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Casio Value Stores[edit]

  • Casio Value Stores → Consolidated Mail Outpatient Pharmacy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

No connection to the target article established. Additions to the target article were completely unsourced and without any credibility. T*U (talk) 07:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. No history to indicate how this connects with the pharmacy, and could be likely confused with CVS Pharmacy. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:22, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Cory Murphy (film producer)[edit]

  • Cory Murphy (film producer) → Film  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. Originally created to avoid redlink in a list article, instead sending user on a wild goose chase. T*U (talk) 07:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Agreed, this should be a red link. --Bsherr (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy G3 questioning original creating editor on whether this is even real. See Fandom entry https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/Cory_Murphy_(film_producer) and note how the birthdays are out of whack. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to encourage an article, if appropriate. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

James Groening (film producer)[edit]

  • James Groening (film producer) → Film  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. Originally created to avoid redlink in a list article, instead sending user on a wild goose chase. T*U (talk) 07:17, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Agreed, this should be a red link. --Bsherr (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy G2 or G3 questioning original creating editor on whether this is even real. See Fandom entry https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/James_Groening_(film_producer) "in 1917, he's born in The United States of America. in 1967, he has grown up to become a Supervising Executive Music Producer of His Filmography for themselves." Obvious test filler. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to encourage an article, if appropriate. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

James Groening[edit]

  • James Groening → James#People  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. T*U (talk) 07:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Agreed, this should be a red link. --Bsherr (talk) 20:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy G3 questioning original creating editor on whether this is even real. See Fandom entry https://imdb.fandom.com/wiki/James_Groening_(film_producer) AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:30, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Redirecting to a disambiguation page is clearly inappropriate. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Data West[edit]

  • Data West → Bandai Namco Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. T*U (talk) 07:13, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as not a subsidiary of Bandai Namco. See https://www.siliconera.com/data-west-to-return-to-video-game-industry-with-digital-rereleases-and-sequels/ AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:43, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

DATA WEST[edit]

  • DATA WEST → Bandai Namco Entertainment  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article, and there is no indication that anything about the term could be learned from the target article. T*U (talk) 07:11, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as not a subsidiary of Bandai Namco. See https://www.siliconera.com/data-west-to-return-to-video-game-industry-with-digital-rereleases-and-sequels/ AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:44, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

PG-13[edit]

  • PG-13 → Motion picture content rating system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Target had been Motion Picture Association film rating system which is US only. New target does cover many countries, but it is sort-of a list article. Looking at PG-13 (disambiguation), I think that is a better "target", so I propose moving the dab to the base name. Note that PG13 already redirects to the dab. It makes sense that PG13/PG-13 go to the same place. MB 04:09, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment I have no objections in principle to this but I have temporarily reverted the change, because the incoming links need to be addressed first. As https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/PG-13 shows, there are a substantial number of incoming links that clearly relate to the only the MPAA film rating. Facts707 was lazy in changing the redirect and not addressing the incoming links. Readers who follow this link expect exposition on the US film rating, since they are following links from articles about American films. I suggest a solution along the following lines:
  1. Move PG-13 to PG-13 (Motion Picture Association). This will mirror the solution at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=R_rating_(Motion_Picture_Association)&redirect=no.
  2. This will create a double redirect that the Wikipedia software will automatically correct after a few days.
  3. Once the software fixes the double redirect then move PG-13 (disambiguation) to PG-13.
Betty Logan (talk) 08:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I have restored the redirect as it was, targets should not be changed while there is an open RFD. I also found there were only 100 articles involved and ran them through AWB to re-target those that were clearly about US rated motion pictures. Now there are only about a dozen left which should go to the dab. No need for the round-robin move discussed above. MB 15:15, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    I have restored the long-standing redirect. This redirect has redirected to Motion Picture Association film rating system since its creation 17 years ago, before it was altered earlier to day. I have restored this redirect because it affects all the incoming links. The discussion should come before changing the redirect, not after it. Betty Logan (talk) 15:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    You are confusing the situation. The target listed at the very top of this discussion is incorrect because you changed the target AFTER the discussion was started. This is not the correct procedure. MB 15:39, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    The procedure is to start the discussion before changing the link, not after. The change you are proposing is a no-brainer on your terms, because none of the incoming links should redirect to the new link. If there is to be a discussion it should be about the long-standing link, which is potentially a primary topic. I actually support your proposal but the discussion should be about the original link. Only two editors have responded so far so you can easily fix the proposal, or alternatively you can close it and start a new one. Betty Logan (talk) 16:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • NOTE I believe this discussion is being conducted in poor faith. This is the sequence of events:
    1. This redirect was created in 2003 and until today has always redirected to Motion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system#PG-13, because the MPA PG-13 rating was considered the primary topic for a long time. It had a substantial number of incoming links that explicitly referred to the MPA's PG-13 rating.
    2. Earlier today, this page was redirected to Motion picture content rating system without discussion, and without addressing all the incoming links.
    3. A discussion was started here by MB proposing the disambiguation page at PG-13 (disambiguation) is moved to the base name.
    4. I restored the redirect to the WP:STATUSQUO but this has been reverted by MB (see [12]) on the pretext of this discussion.
    However, I believe this discussion should take place in the context of the long-standing (17 years-old) redirect. A discussion about a redirect to Motion picture content rating system is a fundamentally different discussion to one about a redirect to a potential primary topic atMotion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system#PG-13. This pretext that we must conduct the discussion on a false premise because it has already "started" is a very poor reason IMO. Since only two people have engaged in this discussion the proposal can easily be fixed. This redirect has been in place for 17 years, potentially redirects to a primary topic and should be discussed on those terms IMO. Betty Logan (talk) 15:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Further comment In a nutshell I believe the real issue is whether the MPA's PG-13 rating covered at Motion_Picture_Association_film_rating_system#PG-13 is the primary topic from those outlined at PG-13 (disambiguation). For 17 years until this morning when the redirect was changed the rating was considered the primary topic. However, 17 years is a long time and more articles covering various PG-13 ratings have been added to Wikipedia. In view of these extra topics is it still correct to treat the MPA rating as the primary topic, or as MB suggests replace the redirect with the disambiguation page. Despite my disagreement with MB over how the discussion has been conducted I do agree with the proposal; I think the MPA ratings article will still get the bulk of the incoming traffic because of the focus on English-language films on Wikipedia (especially Hollywood productions) but I think if there was balanced coverage then there probably wouldn't be a primary topic. Betty Logan (talk) 16:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Joe Allen (restaurateur)[edit]

  • Joe Allen (restaurateur) → Joe Allen (restauranteur)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Per R3; page title created in error. I moved the redirect to the "correct" title prior to nominating this redirect. Sean Stephens (talk) 03:35, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep, harmless. R3 doesn't apply because this redirect was created by a page move. As an aside, please don't move redirects.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I'm not seeing any evidence that this redirect was in fact created by a page move. GiantSnowman created this in February as it shows in the original page history, prior to the move that was done by the nom. CycloneYoris talk! 09:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
      • It absolutely, 100%, was created by a page move. It's just a bit confusing. Think about an article title being moved. A redirect is left at the old title. This is the same scenario but more confusing. The speedy deletion was out of line.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:42, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Actually, scratch that. Restaurateur is the normal spelling of the word. Restauranteur, is oddly enough, the misspelling (or odd alternative term). I didn't know that. Jimfbleak (or any admin who comes across this), please undelete as this redirect is the correct title. Ah, shit.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:54, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I had no idea that the disambiguator in the original title was spelt correctly (otherwise I'd never have nominated it). Someone please undo the damage I've caused. As an aside, "restauranteur" is the correct spelling where I'm from, so it's possibly just an English variation. I'm not fussed as to whether we keep or delete the new redirect, so long as it's in the best interests of Wikipedia. Sean Stephens (talk) 01:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
      • Yeah, definitely not your fault. I would've spelt it like that as well so maybe it's an Australasian thing. The new redirect should be kept at the very least as a common alternative term, whether misnomer or not.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
        • Thank you for showing good faith, it's not something I'm used to around here anymore. I agree with your suggestion, sound like a good idea. Sean Stephens (talk) 01:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I've reopened this discussion as the redirect has now been restored. I personally have no opinion on whether we should keep this redirect or not, but I guess it could be useful to see if other editors are willing to provide any further input. CycloneYoris talk! 09:14, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Wiktionary lists "restaurateur" and "restauranteur" as alternative spellings of the same word with a note part of which says that the spelling with an "n" "is considered erroneous by some, and the form restaurateur (without the n) is preferred in formal writing, and especially in the United Kingdom." so regardless of which title the article is at the other should redirect there tagged as {{R from other disambiguation}} in the same way that Aqua (colour) redirects to Aqua (color). Thryduulf (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect both to Joe Allen (restaurant) now that both are acceptable alternative spellings. The RM/TR to fix it up to restaurateur was declined. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:37, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

M178'[edit]

  • M178' → Mercedes-AMG#"63" M177/M178 4.0 L V8 Bi-Turbo  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete. Not sure what the apostrophe on the end is for, but the Mercedes engine is just M178, and is covered in Mercedes-Benz M176/M177/M178 engine anyway. M178 already exists. This is just confusing. MB 01:32, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Obvious typo, no branding with the apostrophe. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:33, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2[edit]

Tyrium[edit]

  • Tyrium → Neodymium  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentoned anywhere on Wikipedia. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment Tyrium was first listed in Chemical symbol by Spangineer in 2005 here as a suggested name for neodymium. The entry was removed from the list in 2016 by an IP here. If this can be confirmed as an early proposed name of the element then it should be kept as a redirect. Polyamorph (talk) 18:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep following further research. This seems to be an alternative name for Neodymium proposed by John and Gordon Marks in a postscript of a paper where they proposed an alternative presentation for the periodic table. The only copy of the original 1994 paper I can find is here, I'm not sure which journal this was published in. A later paper by the brothers published in Found Chem in 2010 doesn't mention the alternative nomenclature. Still, seems a valid redirect. Also see here and here. Polyamorph (talk) 19:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. The Marks brothers nomenclature seems not used seriously by anyone else in scholarship (not even by themselves in their 2010 paper, except niton for radon). Double sharp (talk) 09:27, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
You are right. And if it isn't mentioned in Neodymium then it is a bit pointless. But it is a real thing which is why I suggested there is no harm in keeping it. But I'm a bit meh about it so have changed my !vote to weak keep. Polyamorph (talk) 12:04, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mdewman6 (talk) 23:25, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep since Tyrium was indeed suggested as a name for Neodymium per the different references provided by Polyamorph. Jay (talk) 16:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Aspirare[edit]

  • Aspirare → Spirit  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Italian for "Spirit", with related meanings in some other Romance languages according to Wiktionary.[13] Not mentioned on the dab or the former primary topic article, spirit (animating force). I do not see any other good target so recommend deletion. (t · c) buidhe 22:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per WP:RFOREIGN. The only mention I can find is a non-notable entry in List of Trinidad and Tobago special schools. Certes (talk) 23:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Astral Spirits[edit]

  • Astral Spirits → Spirit  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This is the name of a record label[14] (possibly notable?) that doesn't have a wiki article and isn't mentioned in the dab page. It should be a redlink. (t · c) buidhe 22:45, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment – Astral spirit exists but the record label has plenty of mentions and perhaps we should delete to let search do its job until someone creates the missing article. Certes (talk) 23:17, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Rooah[edit]

  • Rooah → Spirit  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in target article (the article now at spirit (animating force) used to be a the base name, and it's not mentioned there or explained anywhere on Wikipedia as far as I can tell) (t · c) buidhe 22:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete An old version claims rooah to be a variant spelling of ruach, in which case WP:RFOREIGN applies. Certes (talk) 23:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Why not redirect to the article that covers the concept then? That's Holy Spirit in Judaism (which is the target of Ruach). – Uanfala (talk) 14:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
      If there's any evidence that rooah is Hebrew for Holy Spirit then yes, that would be a valid target because the language is relevant to the topic. Certes (talk) 14:52, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
      Well, ruach is the Hebrew word for 'spirit' (as documented in the article), and rooah is a straightforward alternative/incorrect anglicisation of that word. – Uanfala (talk) 13:23, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Vcite paper[edit]

  • Template:Vcite paper → Template:Vcite journal  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Moved from TfD/April 26. Original reason: "Added years ago during citation changeover and has not been used in years. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 17:37, 26 April 2021 (UTC)". (User:GKFXtalk moved this 21:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC))

Delete per nom. User:GKFXtalk 22:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

M156[edit]

  • M156 → M-156 (Michigan highway)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Retarget to Mercedes-Benz M156 engine as primary target. Search results indicate this is most common usage. The Michigan highway is more local in nature and normally written M-156 anyway. MB 18:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget per nom. Searching for "M156" all but two hits on the first three pages were directly related to the Mercedes engine and the two that weren't were not related to the Michigan highway (one was a warning light for lorries and excavators, one was a makeup brush). Thryduulf (talk) 19:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate (rather like M178). There are other uses. I have drafted a page at the current redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I agree a disambiguation page is needed, I disagree that it should be at the base title as the Mercedes engine is the clear primary topic. Thryduulf (talk) 12:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    • I created M178 recently. There are a lot of Mxxx that are both Mercedes engines and Michigan highways. I agree that the engine is PT in this case, and possibly some others where the dab is currently at the base name. MB 13:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
      • @Thryduulf: makes a good point. I've moved the draft disambiguation page to create M156 (disambiguation). My opinion is now retarget to Mercedes-Benz M156 engine with a hatnote {{redirect|M156}}. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:38, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate -- 67.70.27.105 (talk) 01:37, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate This needs a disambiguation page. While admittedly some of the Michigan highway pages are infrequently visited people in Michigan refer to them as "MXXX" so if someone wanted to look this up and got auto redirected to the engine they may assume there is no article. Strato|sphere 13:57, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    If the engine is the primary topic then a {{redirect}} hatnote above its article would enable readers to find the road etc. If not then we should restore the dab version of M156 (or move the new dab there). Certes (talk) 15:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Arboretum Oaks Apartments[edit]

  • Arboretum Oaks Apartments → List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The article this pointed to was redirected to the current target. As Arboretum Oaks Apartments is not mentioned at the target, I think this should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 18:37, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget - Retarget to 2021 Austin shooting where it is mentioned. --Jax 0677 (talk) 01:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

GQP[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedy Delete, G7.

ICICB Group[edit]

  • ICICB Group → Atari SA  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Article was deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ICICB Group and paid/UPE editor, now blocked, came in and added redirect against consensus. scope_creepTalk 14:27, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Speedy Delete G4 and G5 as recreation of deleted article by blocked user. Dominicmgm (talk) 14:44, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    Note, G5 doesn't apply when a user was blocked AFTER they did something. Lyanbox's block is CIR/disruption related, not paid/UPE related. A review of the deleted article doesn't show any blocked users involved. G4 also doesn't apply. The redirect has nothing in similarity to the deleted content. -- ferret (talk) 15:42, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete While ICICB is mentioned at Atari SA#Atari Chain, it's unlikely any reader who actually knows of ICICB Group is expecting to be redirected to a video game company section. Beyond their promotional agreements, the companies have no relation. -- ferret (talk) 15:47, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  •  Comment: While the redirect to Atari SA is indeed confusing, the ICICB Group appears to be independently notable and worthy of a separate article if their homepage[15] can be trusted – that is, if the ICICB Group indeed has 58 subsidiaries and 114 branches in 26 countries, and manages $2.6 billion in assets. A better solution would perhaps be to create the article. — kashmīrī TALK 17:23, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    Considering a (lightly attended) AFD just deleted it a week ago as non-notable, that's unlikely right now. That's a topic for DRV though, I suppose. -- ferret (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Tang-e Shur[edit]

  • Tang-e Shur → Tang-e Shur-e Olya  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

"Tang-e Shur" is one thing, "Tang-e Shur-e Olya" is a completely different thing. Olya means "upper". These abadis are in different counties in the same province. 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:08, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected and send to AfD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Baba Adam[edit]

  • Baba Adam → Baba Adam Shahid  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The target is irrelevant: Baba Adam is in Iran, Baba Adam Shahid is in Bengal. 4nn1l2 (talk) 14:06, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected and send to AfD. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mazraeh-ye Gorgan-e Bitaraf[edit]

  • Mazraeh-ye Gorgan-e Bitaraf → Gorgan (disambiguation)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was directed and send to AfD. @Ymblanter: should not have redirected this article to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    Restoring is not an option, it was rejected by the community. The options are delete or redirect.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    This applies to all the redirects below which I created.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    @Ymblanter: And how am I supposed to know that? Nothing in RfD or at any of the target articles references any discussion/consensus. On the face of it these are declined PRODS, inappropriately redirected to disambiguation pages. They should be put back to the point before the PROD was applied and dealt with appropriately. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:53, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    [16]--Ymblanter (talk) 11:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    @Ymblanter: OK, well if mass deletion has consensus, then they should be mass deleted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hasanabad-e Gudarz[edit]

  • Hasanabad-e Gudarz → Hasanabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send tom AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Soltanabad-e Tanbali[edit]

  • Soltanabad-e Tanbali → Soltanabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Akbarabad-e Do[edit]

  • Akbarabad-e Do → Akbarabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Hoseynabad-e Kachali[edit]

  • Hoseynabad-e Kachali → Hoseynabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Aliabad Zare[edit]

  • Aliabad Zare → Aliabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:33, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Do Ab-e Alishahi[edit]

  • Do Ab-e Alishahi → Do Ab  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Do Ab, Khuzestan[edit]

  • Do Ab, Khuzestan → Do Ab  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore to version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. Note that "Do Ab, Khuzestan" is ambiguous, and a result of a deletion process might well be to redirect to the disambiguation page, but the original PROD doesn't make sense ("First, it has the term mazraeh (farm) in its name": it doesn't). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mehdiabad, Shahdad[edit]

  • Mehdiabad, Shahdad → Mehdiabad, Iran  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore to version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. The original PROD doesn't make sense ("First, it has the term mazraeh (farm) in its name": it doesn't). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mohammadabad-e Tabatbayi[edit]

  • Mohammadabad-e Tabatbayi → Mohammadabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Soltanabad, Sarbisheh[edit]

  • Soltanabad, Sarbisheh → Soltanabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Amirabad, Kashan[edit]

  • Amirabad, Kashan → Amirabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Karimabad-e Kaffeh[edit]

  • Karimabad-e Kaffeh → Karimabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mohammadabad, Qanavat[edit]

  • Mohammadabad, Qanavat → Mohammadabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Mokhtarabad, Jiroft[edit]

  • Mokhtarabad, Jiroft → Mokhtarabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:55, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Amirabad, Ilam[edit]

  • Amirabad, Ilam → Amirabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:55, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Majidabad-e Ardalan[edit]

  • Majidabad-e Ardalan → Majidabad  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

A specific geoname has been redirected to a general disambiguation page. This is in contrast to the philosophy of disambiguation pages which should redirect readers from general pages to specific ones. 4nn1l2 (talk) 13:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Restore version before it was redirected, and send to AfD. It should not have been redirected to a disambiguation page. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Razzleberry waterfall[edit]

  • Razzleberry waterfall → Mr. Show with Bob and David  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned in article, looks to be a phrase from a single line in a single sketch. Lord Belbury (talk) 11:42, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:44, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. This isn't Monty Python's Flying Circus where many sketches are notable. Dominicmgm (talk) 18:05, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. -- dylx (t | c) 12:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Jay (talk) 16:18, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

The Flash (2016 film)[edit]

  • The Flash (2016 film) → The Flash (film)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Per this XfD: there was never an official 2016 date for it. Kailash29792 (talk) 06:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep per the article's current information. The 2016 tentative release was the first release for the film in the DCEU version, despite it only being a year, it's still a release that was set before other delays. Trailblazer101 (talk) 14:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 10:16, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Self-Portrait at the Age of 34[edit]

Split or bespoke decisions Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: wrong venue. See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests

Journal of Terrorism Research[edit]

  • Journal of Terrorism Research → Terrorism and Political Violence  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I believe that the target of this redirect should be Contemporary Voices, the current name of the journal which was called Journal of Terrorism Research from 2010 to 2017, and which has been cited as such many times. If you look at Talk:Terrorism and Political Violence and the information I have put into the lead of this article, you will see that that journal has never actually been called Journal of Terrorism Research, but only referred to as such in a single "editorial manifesto". I think that this may have been the title once thought of for this journal, but it was changed before publication, registration, etc. and they just forgot to change the name in that manifesto.Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Does @Headbomb: have a view: they'e often interested in journals? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • My view is mostly that the first journal named that way should be the target. It's not a particularly strongly held view, I just know I'd want a community discussion on it, rather than one person deciding what the target of the redirect should be. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  • My view is that the "first journal" was never published under that name though, and all citations to the two journals (and ISSN, Library of Congress name authorities, etc.) all point to the first one only ever being referred to as Terrorism and Political Violence, and the second one as Journal of Terrorism Research and later, Contemporary Voices. Hence need a couple of other people to opine on this one. I have not done extensive work on academic journal articles, but am looking at it from a librarian's point of view. Always happy to accept consensus and defer to usual practice. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

François‑Wolff Ligondé[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Pinkston Watersports[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

May 1[edit]

East China craton[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

GTA 6[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 9#GTA 6

Broad streets[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

White Railway Station[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Long Hots[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 9#Long Hots

Wikipedia:NEW[edit]

  • Wikipedia:NEW → Wikipedia:Article creation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Wikipedia:New → Help:Your first article  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Help:New → Help:Your first article  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Since at least some of these redirects are obviously intended to be left in messages to newcomers I think these should be synchronised to point at the same target (and Help:NEW created and pointed at the same place). It would not be a good experience for a newcomer if someone told them to read "WP:New", for help, they typed "WP:NEW" into the search bar and ended up in a completely different place. WP:NEW does have about 1000 back links, but they're pretty much all in ancient talk page messages and are actually supposed to be linking to the WP:New Users Log. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:26, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

This makes sense. WP:NEW originally linked to WP:New Users Log, AFAICS you're right and the vast majority are trying to link there, so by redirecting it again we wouldn't be losing much. ··gracefool 💬 23:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't mind the Help:New going towards the Help:Your first article , and Wikipedia:New going towards Wikipedia:Article creation, but no preference either way. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 14:34, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget Wikipedia:New to Wikipedia:Article creation. Do nothing for the other two, they are fine. Jay (talk) 17:19, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Russian-Romanian bilingualism[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 9#Russian-Romanian bilingualism

American Broadcasting Companies[edit]

  • American Broadcasting Companies → American Broadcasting Company  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This redirect, formerly a disambiguation page, might be better targeted to American Broadcasting-Paramount Theatres. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep as is. It's an alternate legal name for the network. The current target is appropriate. oknazevad (talk) 19:46, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • disambiguate restore the dab page with the two entries pointed out here. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:37, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:08, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig. Restore the dab page with the three entries that were there. Jay (talk) 17:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
    Retarget to American Broadcasting-Paramount Theatres#American Broadcasting Companies. After anon 2600's message below, I understand that "American Broadcasting Companies, Inc." is/was a valid company name.
    For DAB there is already a American Broadcasting Companies (disambiguation) (which is also a redirect to the same target, so that probably needs a separate Rfd). Jay (talk) 13:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as is. I think Ok has a valid point. The last time I watched the ending credits for an episode of General Hospital, an ABC network show, the copyright notice referenced "American Broadcasting Companies, Inc.", because that show is, for the most part, produced by the network itself. 2600:1700:C960:2270:6883:8981:DA9D:984D (talk) 21:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Brushless AC electric motor[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Grand Theft Auto 6[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 8#Grand Theft Auto 6

Grand Theft Auto VI[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 8#Grand Theft Auto VI

Велике журі присяжних[edit]

  • Велике журі присяжних → Grand jury  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete per WP:FORRED: Ukrainian term is not mentioned in the target, and no special connection for the term to the Ukrainian language. UnitedStatesian (talk) 03:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Very weak retarget to Judiciary of Ukraine, otherwise delete. The general concept of a grand jury has no specific connection to the Ukrainian language. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 17:01, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Gender violence[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 9#Gender violence

April 30[edit]

Morai[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 8#Morai

Tuahu[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

Tardicaca shark[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Connected (upcoming film)[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Captain Thomas Moore[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Keep.

Checkgate[edit]

  • Checkgate → Cocomelon  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 17:45, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment: No vote here, just clearing it up .... it's the original youtube channel username, as can still be seen by visiting http://youtube.com/checkgate. Why did the creators open their account under the name checkgate? We don't know, and likely never will .... it's worth a mention that it seems to be a common noun, most prevalent in Indian English, and could at least merit a Wiktionary entry. —Soap— 18:26, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete until/unless a Wiktionary entry is created, in which case soft redirect. A lot of YouTubers have usernames that don't have anything in common with the name they go by—Tom Scott, for instance, had his channel at /enyay for the longest time, to his chagrin—and I don't see any indication that anyone ever refers to the Cocomelon channel by this name outside of a handful of automated listings. -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 17:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Earlier account name of Cocomelon per Soap. Jay (talk) 08:19, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Kraliçe İkinci Elizabeth[edit]

  • Kraliçe İkinci Elizabeth → Elizabeth II  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Kraliçe Elizabeth → Elizabeth II  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete per WP:RLOTE, no specific affinity between Elizabeth II and Turkey or Turkish signed, Rosguill talk 17:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. If kept, the second one should redirect to Queen Elizabeth. DrKay (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • There is a connection between Queen Elizabeth II and Turkish. She is the queen of Akrotiri and Dhekelia, and one of the main languages there is Turkish. Whether this is enough to keep the redirects I don't know. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 08:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep #1, retarget #2 per Mx. Granger's logic and DrKay's argument in the alternative. If it's a valid way of referring to her in a language that is official and/or widely spoken in an area she governs, that would seem to satisfy WP:RLOTE. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 17:58, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
    • Actually, I notice that tr:Kraliçe İkinci Elizabeth does not exist. Could a Turkish speaker clarify whether this is a plausible phrasing in Turkish? Striking my !vote on #1 till then. (tr:Kraliçe Elizabeth redirects to tr:II. Elizabeth, but I don't think that has much bearing on our own decision of "II" vs. the DAB.) -- Tamzin (they/she) | o toki tawa mi. 18:47, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
      • Is it plausible? Yes and no. It is correct in the sense of how one pronounces it (cf. 'Queen Elizabeth the Second'), but it would be normally written as II. Elizabeth (as indeed the Turkish wiki article has it). Whether anyone would actually search for it like that, even on the Turkish wiki, let alone the English-language one, I have strong doubts. (Then again, I can't for the life of me see why anyone would search for this subject in Turkish on the English wiki, using any search term!)
As for the language of Akrotiri & Dhekelia, the only official language there is English; Turkish speakers are a small minority, and based on the Cypriot politics of the last half century, I would guess their loyal toasts are aimed in the direction of Ankara rather than London. I think the whole A&D issue here is a red herring. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as nommed. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • retarget --evrik (talk) 15:36, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete "Elizabeth II" does not speak Turkish. SCP-053 (talk) 23:53, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Elizabeth II doesn't speak Turkish, and doesn't seem to be an appropriate retarget (no other Queen Elizabeths look to be related to Turkey). Joseph2302 (talk) 10:56, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Hadelin De Ponteves[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Shenley AV[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Speedy delete per G7.

Tipoca City[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Vinyl iodide[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

George Trebek[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 8#George Trebek

Frederick Joseph[edit]

Retarget Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: retarget

MJ (South-Korean Singer[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

阿裡巴巴公司[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Millimetre of rain[edit]

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Starmaya Coffee[edit]

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Johnson Aviation[edit]

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Meeting on Vjun[edit]

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April 29[edit]

Pseudoscience (physics)[edit]

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Andrew Gower[edit]

  • Andrew Gower → Jagex  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I think it's maybe not very helpful to automatically redirect to the Jagex article when searching Wikipedia for Andrew Gower, as there are several people with that name, including British actor Andrew Gower. Maybe a disambiguation page would be more helpful? Minkerbelle (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete and move Andrew Gower (actor) to that name. The actor is the only exact name match. There already is a disambiguation page that should become a headnote on actor Gower's article. IceWelder [✉] 19:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move Andrew Gower (actor) to Andrew Gower as primary topic, per IceWelder. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to a title with an appropriate disambiguator, perhaps Andrew Gower (programmer), and move Andrew Gower (actor) to this title, as this redirect has a long edit history, and the AfD close which created the redirect specifically mentions the possibility of merging content from its history to Jagex as part of its rationale. signed, Rosguill talk 17:49, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Bethel TV[edit]

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Flying Flowers[edit]

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Community gateway[edit]

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Gayism[edit]

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BioGamer Girl Magazine[edit]

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Anne Productions[edit]

  • Anne Productions → Harry Kleiner  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not mentioned at the target, no obviously related results in a Google Scholar and internet search, delete unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete. Based on the only source I've found, Turner Classic Movies,[17] (archive.org link as the original is not available in the UK), Anne Productions was a company set up by Hecht-Hill-Lancaster specifically for Cry Tough (film) and so if it were to redirect anywhere it should be one of those two but it isn't mentioned in either location. Harry Kleiner wrote Cry Tough, and so it's not impossible that he had some involvement with Anne Productions but if he did I've been unable to verify it. Thryduulf (talk) 23:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak retarget to Anne of Green Gables: The Musical, which contains a list of productions of the play which is very commonly referred to by the shorthand "Anne". Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 10:45, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete per Thryduulf. Cry Tough (film) could have been a target, but as there is no mention there (didn't find any on Imdb either), retarget is not an option. Jay (talk) 12:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Thryduulf's research, this company doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere, and I'm not quite for sure that someone searching for "Anne Productions" is quite looking for the proposed other target. Hog Farm Talk 15:25, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Svea Rike[edit]

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State Leader of Myanmar[edit]

  • State Leader of Myanmar → Chairman of the State Administration Council  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete. This was never a term that appeared in any sources AFAICT, and was fabricated by an editor who is now indefinitely blocked for fabricating content, among other things. So, it's not a useful search term. And even if it was, it's not clear that the current target is appropriate, as it could just as easily be targeted to President of Myanmar. ― Tartan357 Talk 23:30, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment this seems like a plausible search term for someone looking for the head of state of Myanmar. If that link were blue I'd say this should point there or target the same article, as it isn't I'm tempted by a retarget to President of Myanmar which is the position that (under various titles) has been head of state since 1948 (anyone looking for earlier than that will unlikely be using "Myanmar"). Thryduulf (talk) 03:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
What do we do in cases where the redirect is deemed a useful search term but the appropriate target is unclear? ― Tartan357 Talk 04:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
That depends, if there is no primary topic we frequently either convert it to a disambiguation page, set index or list or retarget it to another page that performs the same function. If there is a primary topic, and we have an article about that, then we'll retarget it there and add a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate (or make a disambiguation page at a title like head of state of Myanmar and point this at it) including Chairman of the State Administration Council, President of Myanmar, State Counsellor of Myanmar and Prime Minister of Myanmar all of which are various offices who are head of state/government. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 17:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep because of the useful page history. There is no "State Leader of -" article or redirect for any other country, so this is not a generic term. The term "State Leader" in the case of Myanmar appears to be made up to provide legitimacy to the armed forces in the power equation in Myanmar, and a DAB to other heads of state in Myanmar may not make sense. I do not think any one user fabricated the term because different users have added the term in different articles.
See List of state leaders in 2021 where for Myanmar, "State Leader" is mentioned as distinct from President and PM.
See State of emergency#Active in 2021 where the Commander-in-Chief of Defence Services is mentioned as the state leader. Which is the same designation mentioned in this Philippines article that mentions state leader in quotes indicating it is a special term. Jay (talk) 12:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Tanten[edit]

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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/From the editor[edit]

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MJ (singer)[edit]

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Abolish Wales/Abolish Scotland[edit]

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Wikipedia:GRAPE[edit]

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Deceased inventor[edit]

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Proto gaelic[edit]

  • Proto gaelic → Primitive Irish  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

"Proto-gaelic" doesn't appear to be the proper name of any language, reconstructed or otherwise. The closest equivalent as far as I can tell is Proto-Celtic language, which is the constructed predecessor of the Celtic language family, which the Gaelic (Goidelic) belongs to. I would suggest redirecting to there unless a justification can be provided. signed, Rosguill talk 16:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Proto-Celtic per nom. 053pvr (talk) 02:11, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as is. Proto-Gaelic would be the ancestor of all the Gaelic languages, not all the Celtic languages. The Gaelic languages are also known as the Goidelic languages, so Proto-Gaelic is equivalent to Proto-Goidelic. We don't have an article on the Proto-Goidelic language, but the closest thing to it is in fact Primitive Irish, the oldest attested Goidelic language. So while Proto-Goidelic (a reconstructed language) is not exactly identical to Primitive Irish (an attested language), Primitive Irish does seem to be the best available redirect target. —Mahāgaja · talk 10:17, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Mahagaja, 053pvr Rosguill, I think the best solution is to redirect to just either Old Gaelic or Goidelic_languages#History_and_range as they both mention the split in Proto-celtic in Gaelic. The issue with redirecting to just Proto-Celtic is the Celtic families have two separate extant branches (extinct languages includes Gaulish), Brittonic and Gaelic. Proto-Celtic separated into Proto-Gaelic (Almost like Old Gaelic) which would latter birth Irish language, Scottish Gaelic and the Manx language and proto-Brittonic which would later evolve into Welsh, Cornish, Breton and Cumbric language. The two are both Celtic but also different and this is very important. As it's why the Scottish language has more in common with Irish then say the Welsh language and vice versa. So redirecting it to just Proto-Celtic language wouldn't be the full story as they are two separate branches of just Celtic, it's like how French and Romanian are both Romance languages but French has more in common with Spanish then Romanian because they share a more common ancestor language. Hope I made my point clear and thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 01:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: Old Gaelic itself is a redirect to Old Irish, which is just a later stage in the development of the Goidelic languages than Primitive Irish. Primitive Irish is closer to Proto-Goidelic than Old Irish is, so why not redirect to Primitive Irish? —Mahāgaja · talk 06:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    Mahagaja That actually sounds like a better idea my thought process was: "Old Irish is thus forebear to Modern Irish, Manx, and Scottish Gaelic." however Primitive Irish would still be better as it came sooner. Des Vallee (talk) 17:17, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: And Primitive Irish is where proto gaelic already redirects – and you were the one who made that redirect in the first place! —Mahāgaja · talk 18:25, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
    Mahagaja Yea I agree it is a better redirect altogether. Des Vallee (talk) 18:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I'm not really swayed by the arguments for Primitive Irish, as "proto-" AFAIK exclusively refers to reconstructions of extinct languages (see Proto-language). If Proto-Celtic isn't a suitable target, the redirect should just be deleted, rather than potentially misleading readers into believing that Primitive Irish is a proto-language. signed, Rosguill talk 18:13, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Once they arrive at Primitive Irish, I doubt anyone will long be misled into thinking it's a reconstructed language, but I agree that deletion is better than redirecting it to Proto-Celtic language. —Mahāgaja · talk 16:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Mahagaja, won't it be best to add a short section on the protolanguage at Goidelic languages and retarget there? – Uanfala (talk) 22:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Goidelic_languages#History_and_range pretty much already does that describing how the Goidelic languages began becoming distinct towards Proto-Celtic. If we can't have consensus for primitive Irish which is the partly the basis for modern Scottish, Manx and Irish. The hyperlink of Goidelic languages is by far the best redirect, I don't think it should be deleted as there are many possible links to redirect it to. Des Vallee (talk) 06:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Goidelic languages#History and range is also a good possibility. However, the exact link Proto gaelic with no hyphen and with a lower-case "g" is unlikely to be searched for. If we have redirects for this concept, they should be Proto-Gaelic and Proto-Goidelic. —Mahāgaja · talk 07:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Oh yes, if the redirect is kept, then the correct forms will need to be created too. – Uanfala (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I don't think we can take it for granted that readers who follow the redirect and land on Primitive Irish will automatically know what's going on. Not everybody knows what a protolanguage is. And I'm feeling a bit confused myself: I would normally assume that the reconstructed protolanguage should predate Primitive Irish, but if this reconstruction proceeds from the better attested languages, doesn't it stand a chance of actually representing a later stage than Primitive Irish? Similarly if the redirect is retargeted: by reading Goidelic languages#History and range I can get some sort of idea about Proto-Gaelic, but I have no way of knowing if this idea is correct. I guess any target will work, provided it's got some sort of mention of the protolanguage, which at least positions it with respect to the article's topic. – Uanfala (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Uanfala, Mahagaja, Rosguill I added a section of Proto-Gailic "Proto-Goidelic is the proposed proto-language for all branches of Goidelic, it is most commonly thought to have originated from either northern Ireland or western Scotland. It is the predecessor which then began to separate into separate Irish, Scottish, Manx languages." this is the best overall redirect, it would be best to have an article specifically about proto-Gaelic however. Thanks. Des Vallee (talk) 19:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Des Vallee: It's not accurate to say that Proto-Goidelic split into separate Irish, Scottish Gaelic and Manx languages; that split didn't happen until the era of Middle Irish. Proto-Goidelic is the sister language to Proto-Brythonic; it developed after Proto-Insular Celtic split into Brythonic and Goidelic branches and evolved into Primitive Irish. I don't think there's enough material on Proto-Goidelic to warrant an article. Historical linguists tend to talk about how Old Irish (and Primitive Irish) developed from Proto-Celtic; as far as I know, no one has ever bothered to reconstruct the intermediate Proto-Goidelic stage. —Mahāgaja · talk 20:04, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Mahagaja: Proto-Goidelic does have enough information for an article and has had words and pronunciation have been reconstructed. As well as extensive research on the split between Gaelic and Brittonic. It can be proved using scholarly sources. You are correct on the languages and I have changed it to Gaelic began to split into different dialects and then later forming separate "languages" during Middle Irish or perhaps there is some better wording.
There is extensive study on Proto-Goidelic:
THE PROSODIC STRUCTURE OF IRISH, SCOTS GAELIC, AND MANX, Dissertation Presented to the Faculty of the Graduate School of Cornell University in Partial Fulfillment of the Requirements for the Degree of Doctor of Philosophy by Antony Dubach GreenMay 1997
Page 28, section 67:
"Shortening of unstressed long vowels in Proto-Goidelic It is unknown where stress fell in Proto-Celtic, but Schrijver (1995, 16 ff.) has argued that in Proto-Insular Celtic (PIC), stress regularly fell on the initial syllable of the word. This pattern continued in the Goidelic branch of Insular Celtic through Old Irish and into most modern Goidelic dialects, with notable exceptions in Manx and the Irish of Munster and East Mayo,as we shall see. 3By the time Old Irish is attested, unstressed vowels (i.e. those not inthe initial syllable) that were long in Proto-Insular Celtic had been short-ened in accordance with the WSP, into Proto-Gaelic (Thurneysen 1946, 31)."
See page 29 for a reconstruction of a words of Proto-Goidelic, section 69.
See page 32 for more information on Proto-Goidelic section 74.
"This shortening may be explained by proposing that Ulster has re-stored the ranking WSP, ALL-FT-L ≫ ::MAX(μ) that was current early in Proto-Goidelic. This ranking means that the optimal candidate is the one in which an unstressed long vowel is shortened.(34)/kal′i:n′/WSP ALL-FT-LMAX(μ)(.k·.l′i:n′.)* !-> (.k·.l′in′.)*.ka(.l′Ì:n′.)σ. This is a clear example of the Promotion of the Unmarked: WSP was pro-moted to undominated position, and MAX(μ) was demoted so that one candidate could surface as optimal in Proto-Gaelic. What the speakers did, in effect, was apply the contra-position of the Weight-to-Stress Principle, ì If unstressed, then light, î was added to their language showing a divergence in proto-celtic."
For more information see Journal of Celtic language learning The consonantal inventory of proto-Goidelic and proto-Brittonic under Laryngeal Realism, Interarticulatory timing and Celtic mutations. Or Back Into the Fields and Into the Woods: Old Irish íath'land, field'and fíad'wild; deer; uncultivated land'revisited "There are even three different reasonable strategies available in order to to account for the Proto-Celtic or at least Proto-Goidelic *-u- instead of expected *-wo, there may have been a Proto-Goidelic sound change *-wo- > *-u- in word-final syllables."
Or The substratum in Insular Celtic page 161 (Intro), page 169 (section 161) .
Page 170 (section 161)
"One could conceive, therefore, that an imaginary temporal exten-sion of the evolution of Continental Celtic languages could theoretically yield us a stage not unlike Insular,and, vice versa, that the Continental data could be of significant use wherever a reconstruction of Proto-Brittonic or Proto-Goidelic forms is attempted. More-over, the morphophonemic mutations mentioned by Koch are, at least in Old Irish, plausibly explicable through the (later) apocoped ending of the first word in a two-unit syntagma, and, in a way, it is precisely the data from Gaulish that support this solution. Just a single example will suffice: the nasalized Anlaut after possessive plural pronouns allows us to reconstruct the deleted Auslaut with -m/-n-:12"
See end of page 170, page 172 (section 164), for more information.
As well as mentioning in extensive detail when Brittonic and Goidelic began separating. This is just the absolute tip of the iceberg of Proto-Goidelic and Proto-Brittonic and there is much, much more sources detailing it. Des Vallee (talk) 21:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
@Des Vallee: Great! If you want to start an article on the Proto-Goidelic language based on sources like those, go ahead! —Mahāgaja · talk 07:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
@Mahagaja: Yea of course, when I get the time -_-, I have a bad habit of creating drafts and not finishing them but I will give it a shot with a draft, which knowing me I will get half way through and not finish it. Des Vallee (talk) 02:37, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • I think it should be redirected to Proto-Goidelic as the hyperlink already exists which is just a section discussing proto-Goidelic on the Goidelic languages. Previously this section didn't exist now it's obvious to redirect there and I think we can agree it's the best redirect. Des Vallee (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
    That seems reasonable to me. signed, Rosguill talk 18:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

April 28[edit]

File:Our Lady of Heliopolis Co-Cathedral in 2007.jpg[edit]

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Digital Euro[edit]

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Total Advance[edit]

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Frances Boyle[edit]

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Dutty dutty love[edit]

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Olympic Park Stadium[edit]

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Ken McNeil[edit]

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JLin[edit]

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The Magic Diner[edit]

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Business Information Systems[edit]

  • Business Information Systems → Management information system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Business Information System → Management information system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

"Business Information System" is not mentioned at the target in plural, singular, capitalised or uncapitalised forms. Is there a better target, or should these redirects be deleted as ambiguous (with, for example, YTJ (Finnish government service))? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. It is a plausible search term for the subject of the article, so it is fine for the redirect to exist, even if it is not mentioned at the target. WP:HARMLESS. SCP-053 (talk) 02:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • SCP-053 I don't believe these are the same thing, I'm certainly not seeing them being used in an interchangeable way with a google search. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • The primary usage I seem to be getting when I search for these terms relates to the Bachelor of Business Information Systems degree, but I'm not sure that retargeting there would be appropriate. I'm leaning towards deletion. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 18:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Information system; there can be a hatnote linking to YTJ (Finnish government service). Peter James (talk) 17:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Independent Union (politcal party)[edit]

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Anti-Circumcision Movement[edit]

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True Forced Loneliness[edit]

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April 27[edit]

Candidates of the next Western Australian state election[edit]

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United States elections[edit]

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UNC-R[edit]

  • UNC-R → North Carolina State University  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The abbreviation "UNC-R" has never been a correct name for NC State, and the usage of "UNC-R" is mostly a derogatory reference from rival schools who would already know how to find the article on Wikipedia under the correct name. I even checked the creator's user page, it indicates that he went to UNC-CH, which is usually the source of unwarranted references to "UNC-R". 2600:1700:FDF1:1FC0:D83F:388:E5D5:D1A5 (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment the article states this was founded as the University of North Carolina facility in Raleigh as North Carolina College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts, so it would seem to be a viable search term. I don't see where the letters UNC-R become derogatory, as it seems to state what it was when it was founded. I don't seem any expletives in those letters, unless there is an expanded acronym that elides the swear words. You could tag it as a {{R from incorrect term}} -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 00:25, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete: As discussed in the article, NCSU was only referred to as the University of North Carolina at Raleigh between 1962 and 1963. That name was dropped due to on-campus fury. NCSU values its distinct history from other colleges in the UNC system. It's virtually impossible that anyone not already in the know about the tense history between NCSU and the UNC system would look for this college using that redirect. It's very likely that the editor that created it was being deliberately dismissive of NCSU and that any users searching for UNC-R are looking for a laugh. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 01:54, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The strong keep as a valid former name from 1962-1963. WP:NOTCENSORED, WP:IDONTLIKEIT -- just because people want to revise history to forget the past doesn't mean the past shouldn't exist. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 03:29, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
      • UPDATE retarget to the United Nations topic -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to United Nations Command–Rear, where it seems to be a less-common but officially-used acronym. Or perhaps disambiguate, although WP:DABACRONYM suggests that it would be a problem to include North Carolina State University if the acronym UNC-R isn't mentioned in the article. (And then the question becomes whether it is verifiable / ought to be mentioned in the article, which I'm not sure about.) Adumbrativus (talk) 07:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete or Retarget - Unlikely search term. Further, I'd say, it is an inappropriate term even with {{R from incorrect term}}. Use of "UNC-R" is meant to be a "put down" as it is intended to be is to remove the distinctiveness of NCSU name, making it one of the many "UNC at City". Despite some brief flirtation with rebranding 60 years ago, any modern use (if any) of UNC-R is prejudicial. Let me be clear that this isn't about petty college rivalry. It's about what is best for the readers of our encyclopedia. A better target exists. Let's use it. Senator2029 ❮talk❯ 21:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    • That seems to be historical revisionism. History still exists even if things are renamed; if they used the name 60-some years ago, then it is a valid name, removing it seems censorship. -- Though I have no problem with retargetting it to the United Nations topic, since that is a current use. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate, considering that "UNC-R" is a somewhat obscure search term for both United Nations Command–Rear and "University of North Carolina at Raleigh". WP:RNEUTRAL means that a title being derogatory is not in itself grounds for deletion. feminist (talk) 14:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
    I do not see how it would be a search term for both. my understanding of how the search would look like is this UNCR is the search for the university while UNC-R would denote the United Nations command rear. If you could further explain why it is obscure for me that would be grand. Discount Horde (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

2024 United States House of Representatives elections[edit]

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Melissa Cross[edit]

  • Melissa Cross → List of vocal coaches#C  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Cross does not appear to be notable, and thus should not be listed at the target. This redirect should be deleted, although if someone can find sources to establish notability, creating an article at this title would b appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 17:43, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep - AFAIK, people do not need an article to be listed at List of vocal coaches. Can also be redirected to Angela_Gossow#Other_work. --Jax 0677 (talk) 00:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's a list of notable coaches, so they need to either have an article or clearly have sufficient coverage to merit an article. signed, Rosguill talk 17:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete and remove the entry from list of vocal coaches per nominator. Given that she's mentioned in a few different articles, search results are more informative than pointing to just one of her students, or to a bare list entry. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 04:11, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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SOER[edit]

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Patrice Synthea[edit]

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Chris Candelaria[edit]

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Solomon Islands at the 2020 Summer Olympics[edit]

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Nauru at the 2020 Summer Olympics[edit]

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United Peace Alliance[edit]

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P-I[edit]

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Beit Midrash Har'el[edit]

  • Beit Midrash Har'el → List of rabbinical schools#Orthodox  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Recently created redirect that should have been an article if notable, and target article contains no information on the subject. Jbrzow (talk) 02:14, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

It is notable re its pioneering role in granting Orthodox Rabbinical ordination to women. See Women rabbis and Torah scholars #Orthodox Judaism. This redirect is a placeholder for an appropriate article. Fintor (talk) 17:53, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
If it's meant to be a placeholder, it should be a red link, not a redirect to a page where it gets ten words of mention. See reason to delete a redirect number 10. Jbrzow (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok - but please give me a few days to write the article ... Fintor (talk) 09:56, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Weak keep, a mention appears to have been added at the target. signed, Rosguill talk 00:16, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Charles S. Adams[edit]

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Template:Country data Brjanskaja oblast'[edit]

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Sleep with me, I'm not too young[edit]

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File:Infromation and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario logo.jpg[edit]

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Bharat (place)[edit]

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Requisition[edit]

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April 26[edit]

Parity Amendment[edit]

  • Parity Amendment → Bell Trade Act  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Parity Rights Amendment → Bell Trade Act  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Both an internal search and a Scholar search suggest that this term has been used to describe various pieces of legislation; I would suggest deletion to allow for uninhibited search results, as most of Wikipedia's coverage of such concepts is spread across various biographical and historical articles, rather than at the pages for laws that could be easily disambiguated. signed, Rosguill talk 19:26, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep unless nominator provides more details of the searches. When I searched within Wikipedia, I did not find any relevant non-Philippines non-Bell Trade Act results. Jay (talk) 19:14, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    I see Sylviane_Agacinski#Parité_amendment internally, and various references to healthcare-related parity amendments on Google Scholar [18], [19], [20]. signed, Rosguill talk 21:09, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
    I had seen Sylviane_Agacinski#Parité_amendment too, but didn't consider it significant. Other search results are for "Parity Amendment" only, not "Parity Rights Amendment". The only matching Wikipedia article is Mental Health Parity Act which should not be redirected from either of two listed Rfds. Jay (talk) 10:16, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
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Wikipedia:Textbook[edit]

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Fucking Backstabber[edit]

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Lapointe, Wisconain[edit]

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Temporary structure[edit]

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Craft City[edit]

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Biunnillium[edit]

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LGBT fascism[edit]

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Iwant to fuck you like an animal[edit]

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Template:Substr quick[edit]

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Vehicle Fac. Jabalpur[edit]

  • Vehicle Fac. Jabalpur → Jabalpur Vehicle Factory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Implausible typo. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment this doesn't look like a typo; it looks like some form of abbreviation. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 14:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment It seems to be used as a village name [21]; an old revision of the other page [22] indicates census data. The page "Vehicle_Fac.tory_Jabalpur" contains an article on the village "Vehicle_Fac._Jabalpur" because in 2012, someone rewrote the article from a village article to a factory article [23]; that person moved the article from this page name to the weird Fac.tory name [24] -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. I agree this looks to be an intentional abbreviation rather than a typo, but I can't find any uses of it other than clearly automated creations based Wikipedia page titles (or a similarly scraped source). Happy to change my mind though if somoene can point to anything independent and human-created. Thryduulf (talk) 02:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment due to the overwritten article, I suggest a history split of the village to this page name from the "Fac.tory" pagename, before deletion, to clean up history if anyone wants to undelete; or if it needs to go to AfD instead because of the overwrite with a different topic with a different name. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Vehicle Fac.tory Jabalpur[edit]

  • Vehicle Fac.tory Jabalpur → Jabalpur Vehicle Factory  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Implausible typo. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • The page history of this redirect should be kept.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment an old revision of this page contains census data for a village called "Vehicle_Fac._Jabalpur" [25]. In 2012, someone rewrote the article from a village article to a factory article [26]; that person moved this page from "Fac." to "Fac.tory" [27]; so there are two articles in the history of this redirect, one of them, the village, should be residing at the "Fac." redirect location. The factory edit history should reside at this page name; the dividing point is 2012, before 2012, it is a village article, in 2012 the village article was overwritten with the factory article. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:28, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment due to the overwritten article, I suggest a history split of the village to the "Fac." page name, before deletion, to clean up history if anyone wants to undelete; or if it needs to go to AfD instead because of the overwrite with a different topic with a different name. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Str rt[edit]

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Template:Str right subst[edit]

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Template:Str rep all[edit]

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Frozen Carbonated Beverage[edit]

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COVID-19 Hospital[edit]

  • COVID-19 Hospital → SevenHills Hospital#COVID-19 hospital  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

This is too specific a topic for the redirect title. feminist (talk) 05:45, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment At one point, this page did have text on it: [28]. However, I agree that the current target should be deleted or changed; perhaps Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals? AllegedlyHuman (talk) 06:49, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment to me this title refers to hospitals specifically set up for COVID-19, like the NHS Nightingale hospitals, or the insta-build hospitals in China, and not a specific hospital in particular. If this article is to exist, it should be a list of such hospitals or point to such a list. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 07:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • With a quick search, I found two articles on temporary hospitals with a COVID focus: Fangcang hospital for China, and COVID-19 hospitals in the United Kingdom. I don't think we have anything on temporary buildings or structures generally (hence my nomination of Temporary structure above), let alone hospitals. The base COVID-19 pandemic has links to the British and Chinese uses, but would require further searching to locate within the article. Besides the current target, Category:Hospitals established for the COVID-19 pandemic has relevant content, so maybe the best solution would be a disambiguation page, which could eventually progress (perhaps via WP:CONCEPTDAB) to a real article. --BDD (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Unsuitable redirect (and bad caps for an article/dab-page title) since there are too many possible meanings. Whether any of the proposed alternatives are more acceptable is another question. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambig per BDD with at least COVID-19 hospitals in the United Kingdom, Hospital ships involved in the COVID-19 pandemic‎, Fangcang hospital and a link to the category listed. Pedantically the dab should be at a title something like Covid-19 hospitals but wherever the dab is this title is a useful search term than should redirect to it. Thryduulf (talk) 02:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Rename to Covid-19 hospitals per Thryduulf. And that can redirect to Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals per AllegedlyHuman. I would like to see that article dealing with new hospitals set up for Covid as well as existing hospitals modified to treat Covid. Jay (talk) 04:54, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Move to "Covid-19 hospitals" and then Delete "COVID-19 Hospital". Jay (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:MOVEREDIRECT.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:53, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    No clue on what that guide is trying to say, however I changed the vote to clarify what I meant by rename. Jay (talk) 12:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving redirects is pretty much benefitless. Just create a new redirect.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 21:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    Moving preserves page history, and the redirect has a lot because it was a merge with the target, before the redirect happened. Jay (talk) 19:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    There's no point in moving the redirect anyway because COVID-19 Hospital is a completely normal search term that shouldn't be deleted.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 20:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    Yes, it's a normal search term, but there needn't be a page with that search term. Jay (talk) 21:41, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why not?  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 22:14, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Tony Starks[edit]

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April 22[edit]

Boston Misunderstanding[edit]

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European super league[edit]

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Kirkbymoorside/Kirkbymoorside railway station[edit]

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MSDOSSYS.STS[edit]

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Globe (Earth)[edit]

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Maarakeh bombing[edit]

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African Americans in Finland[edit]

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Conway, South Carolina,[edit]

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Bethel TV[edit]

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Celtic literature,[edit]

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Illiam Dhone,[edit]

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Tennessee State Senate,[edit]

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Hanna-Barbera Island[edit]

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Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Corral[edit]

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Flying Flowers[edit]

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Pseudoscience (physics)[edit]

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Eductor-jet pump[edit]

  • Eductor-jet pump → Injector  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Eductors → Injector  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Eductor → Eduction  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]

It seems that these three (Eductor-jet pump, Eductors, Edutor) should probably go to the same place, but I don't know which place that is. I stumbled upon this situation while cleaning up Eduction. Note, too, that I redirected Educt to Eduction, in case anyone has other opinions about that one. Cnilep (talk) 06:44, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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  • Comment from proposer: Since no one has expressed an idea yet, let me ask this. Are there any objections to (re)targeting both 'Eductor' and 'Eductors' to the disambiguation 'Eduction', and leaving 'Eductor-jet pump' as the status quo (pointing to 'Injector')? Better suggestions are, of course, welcome. Cnilep (talk) 23:38, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Target/retarget eductor and eductors to DAB page Eduction as {{R from ambiguous term}}. (Oh, and endorse nom's retargetting of educt to Eduction.}
Retarget eductor-jet pump to Vacuum ejector. It's a piece of kit which will be familiar to anyone who's ever worked in a high school, university or industrial laboratory. It's given as an alternative name in the infobox. (I knew what I was looking for, but it was the devil to find. I would call it a water pump.) Narky Blert (talk) 16:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget eductor and eductor to DAB at eduction, for the record checked educter in case it had somehow made its way from Latin into English (not so far). For the fun of it, in my dictionary there are six words with two consecutive "u"s. Vacuum and continuum are easy, and I give you triduum and menstruum for free. You'll get a small residuum if you find the sixth. 94.21.10.117 (talk) 01:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    Duumvir. I accept all major cards. Narky Blert (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Do the Retargets per Narky Blert. Jay (talk) 05:32, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Fent[edit]

  • Fent → Fentanyl  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

While this does appear to sometimes be a slang term for fentanyl, it also is a word in its own right. I'm not really sure whether a wiktionary redirect or deletion is more appropriate here. signed, Rosguill talk 15:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Disambiguate to a wiktionary link, fentanyl, Kathleen Fent, Lance Baker Fent from The Peanut Butter Conspiracy, FENT -- a product of Laboratory for Energy Conversion ---- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 22:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to facilitate uninhibited Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:10, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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Disambiguate per the IP. These are all plausible. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 09:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per above. Kathleen Fent means it will be {{dab|surname}}. Narky Blert (talk) 16:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Shhhnotsoloud, unless there is a good dab candidate. Kathleen Fent also doesn't have an article, and is a redirect. Jay (talk) 21:46, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate per the IP. We should cover all the bases here to help searchers. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Trackdad[edit]

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George Floyd/[edit]

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Dragonfly,[edit]

  • Dragonfly, → Dragonfly  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

The page's initial content was referring to a track from The Hunter (Blondie album), but as it does not seem notable (I can only find lyric pages on a quick web search), I suggest deleting this per WP:UNNATURAL. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Move page history to Dragonfly (Blondie song) without leaving a redirect, and retarget to The Hunter (Blondie album). I don't see any indication that the comma is part of the song's stylised title, and there is no reason to otherwise retain a redirect at this title, but under a more specific title this could be kept as a redirect to the album. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Move page history per Paul 012. The nominated page has non-trivial history worth keeping. feminist (talk) 15:14, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Killing Barney[edit]

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April 21[edit]

Muscle fiber[edit]

  • Muscle fiber → Skeletal muscle#Muscle fibers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibers → Skeletal muscle#Muscle fibers  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibers, fast-twitch → Myocyte#Fiber types  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibre → Myocyte  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Muscle fibres → Skeletal muscle  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Target had been Myocyte for six years, recently changed w/o discussion. MB 18:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak keep In my medically uninformed assessment, the new target does appear to be more appropriate than the old one. MB, is there any specific issue that you have with the new target other than a procedural concern? signed, Rosguill talk 20:02, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Rosguill, No, just a long standing redirect changed without discussion or much reason ("better target"). I am similarly uninformed and after looking at both articles wasn't sure and was trying to get a more expert opinion. Aren't muscle fibers found in all types of muscle, not just skeletal muscle? If so, why is the target an article on skeletal muscle rather than Myocyte which seems to be more broad. MB 20:29, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Given that the long-standing redirect was the product of a bot-correction of a double redirect, I wouldn't implicitly put much faith in the old redirect target, even if it has been around for 5 years. signed, Rosguill talk 20:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • I've added some related redirects that MB found, but am still not sure what the best solution here is (other than that most of thse should probably point at th same place). Simply pointing to Muscle may be appropriate. signed, Rosguill talk 01:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as redirects for Myocyte. We had this discussion before "muscle fiber" /" muscle fibre" is a synonym of "muscle cell", which is the definition of myocyte. The redirection to Skeletal muscle leaves out the fact that muscle fibres/fibers occur in cardiac tissue as well as in skeletal muscle. It is also a vertebrate centric change. There are invertebrate animals (without skeletons) that have muscle fibers, but they do not have skeletons and therefore have no skeletal muscle. The undiscussed change to the redirect is unwarranted. Also, it is not clear what the previous "keep" vote is for. None of these redirects are up for deletion are they? The term "muscle fiber" / "muscle fibre" is extremely common in the literature, so deletion or the redirects would not make sense. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    EncycloPetey, at RfD, "keep" means "keep current target" (the current target at the time of nomination, regardless if it's established or the result of a recent bold change). Your recommendation her is for "retargeting". – Uanfala (talk) 22:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as is - muscle cell still redirects to myocyte; however Redirect if the proposed move from Myocyte to Muscle cell goes ahead; the redirects were made in accordance with the MeSH entry which distinguishes between myocyte and muscle fiber still referring to myocyte for cardiac muscle cell.[29] Do invertebrates have muscle cells or muscle fibers? As far as I can see a muscle fiber only refers to a skeletal muscle cell. Otherwise this could be mentioned in Other animals.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    Muscle tissue consists of elongated cells also called as muscle fibers - taken from muscle tissue page.--Iztwoz (talk) 16:46, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    Also image used in infobox on skeletal muscle page uses diagram from Seer cancer training clearly showing use of muscle fiber describing it as a single cell and multi-nuclear.[30] --Iztwoz (talk) 18:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Iztwoz: The the MeSH entry is specifically about human medicine. It does not cover non-human biology. Muscle fibers are found in nearly all animals (except sponges). Using the the MeSH entry over other viewpoints violates WP:NPOV.
    But even in humans, muscle cell/fibers occur in both skeletal and cardiac muscle. See pp.276-284 in Marieb & Hoehn, Human Anatomy & Physiology, 8th edition, which is a standard textbook in universities. I quote from page 276: "First, skeletal and smooth muscle cells ... are called muscle fibers." So fibres are synonymous with "cell" in muscle tissue, and are not restricted in use of the term to skeletal muscle.
    It is easy to find evidence of the term used for invertebrates, for example in this paper on the hydrodynamics of jellyfish swimming: [31] "Swimming via jet propulsion involves contraction of circular muscle fibers "Swimming via jet propulsion involves contraction of circular muscle fibers..." Or also this article [32] on contractile strength of muscle fibres in giant clams. In this article muscle fibre is even a keyword for the article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
    The the MeSH entry is specifically about human medicine. It does not cover non-human biology. Muscle fibers are found in nearly all animals (except sponges). Using the the MeSH entry over other viewpoints violates WP:NPOV. Most of the pages covering muscle is about human muscle - vertebrate muscle is also a given 'same'. The fibers referred to in invertebrates (from what I have read - limited) are smooth muscle fibers with the term fiber used to more relate to the myofibrils of muscle - however the use of muscle fiber in human terms does solely relate to the skeletal muscle cell. More could be given to the muscle 'components' in invertebrates - the exoskeleton exists in some invertebrates which could maybe be included with related muscle.
    But even in humans, muscle cell/fibers occur in both skeletal and cardiac muscle. See pp.276-284 in Marieb & Hoehn, Human Anatomy & Physiology, 8th edition, which is a standard textbook in universities. I quote from page 276: "First, skeletal and smooth muscle cells ... are called muscle fibers." So fibres are synonymous with "cell" in muscle tissue, and are not restricted in use of the term to skeletal muscle. I can only go by what is given clearly in the refs provided. I think I have seen this use but for the purposes of non-confusion think it's better to easily separate skeletal muscle fiber - I know that I have never come across the use of cardiac muscle fiber - there is the page cardiac muscle cells.....
    Apart from the 'counter-comments' made, it seems that much could be done to improve the overall coverage of the muscle topic in a more comprehensive way. I have posted a redirect proposal for myocyte to muscle cell which may hopefully be a way out of some of the confusion.
    I also feel that the page Muscle tissue needs to be merged back to Muscle which will also help overall coverage. And the various twitch fibers could maybe then find a better homesite. Have just (rightly or wrongly) changed Muscle fibers on Skeletal muscle page to Skeletal muscle fibers so that there is a more specific target. Don't think it will make a differene in terms of the redirect proposal.? --Iztwoz (talk) 12:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    Iztwoz, I've refactored your comment above, I hope you find it acceptable. Feel free to change the layout, but please don't interject your comments into others' posts: this makes it really difficult for the rest of us to figure out who's saying what. – Uanfala (talk) 22:01, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • @EncycloPetey: - I have found other references that back up your comments on cardiac muscle fibers and others - so intend to make edits to pages, and if proposed change of page name from Myocyte to Muscle cell goes ahead then it would be appropriate for Muscle fiber to redirect back there. Best --Iztwoz (talk) 14:31, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    Thanks. I will also point out that we already had a discussion about merging Muscle Tissue into the Muscle article, and the result of that discussion was to not merge, for many reasons. If they were merged, it would be the only one of the four basic animal tissues that did not have its own article. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:39, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
    That's a poor argument really, conversely - muscle is the page that has specific content covering all aspects of muscle tissue which readily redirects with bold to muscle. There is no such comparison with nervous tissue or connective tissue; and similarly to muscle, epithelial tissue redirects to Epithelium. --Iztwoz (talk) 19:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Sorry, Iztwoz, but I don't understand your meaning. We have articles for each of the four animal tissue types that are separate from articles about organs and organ systems. Why do you feel that muscle tissue should not be treated the same way? --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @EncycloPetey: There is no article on Epithelial tissue - there is an article on Epithelium. The entry term of Muscle does not refer specifically to a complete organ (as in a list of muscles) but to the general tissue.? --Iztwoz (talk) 07:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    You are incorrect. First, in that epithelium is a synonym for epithelial tissue, so there is no distinction to be make; for that tissue the choice of term is immaterial. The article at epithelium is about the tissue even though it does not have "tissue" in the name. But in the English language muscle and muscle tissue are not synonymous. We can say "There are 650 muscles in the human body." But we cannot say "There are 650 muscle tissues in the body." The terms "muscle" and "muscle tissue" are not synonymous, and we don't want to surprise the reader. The article on Muscle is already very long, and there is still a lot of information that has not yet been added to that article. Merging the large (and potential for much more) article on muscle tissue would create an article of such length that we would then split out an article on muscle tissue. So: "muscle" and "muscle tissue" are not synonyms; there are very long (and potentially longer) articles on both topics; and the other three animal tissues have their own separate articles—three reasons for keeping the articles separate. You can find the previous merge discussion at Talk:Muscle/Archive_1#Proposed merge with Muscle tissue, where the merge was opposed by community consensus. Again, why do you feel that muscle tissue does not deserve the same treatment in a separate article as the other three animal tissues? --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    Firstly - there was no community consensus on the merge proposal - it was three for, and three against. I would just restate the arguments for the merge as posted on that page - they have not changed. The page Muscle is essentially about muscle tissue it cannot be about anything else since it's not about a muscle or any one muscle but describes cardiac, skeletal and smooth muscle - as tissue; and is a duplicate of material on muscle tissue. Has there ever been a proposal to move Muscle to Muscle tissue? They cover the same material.? As for your claim that the page would be made overly long cannot be valid since most of the material is already on Muscle page. But the merge proposal has not been made so perhaps leave the arguments until it has. Best--Iztwoz (talk) 18:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    It sounds to me as though you haven't actually looked at the material present in each article. The two articles do not have the same content. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment - Myocyte has just been moved to Muscle cell per Talk:Muscle cell#Requested move 17 April 2021 (permalink). ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 07:40, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

UNIVERSAL[edit]

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Abolish Wales/Abolish Scotland[edit]

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Calm After The Storm([edit]

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Witch (word([edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6

The Silent Force Tour ([edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6

School Milk Act 1946[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Wikipedia:CR[edit]

  • Wikipedia:CR → Wikipedia:Cleanup resources  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Proposing retarget to Wikipedia:Closure requests, which was recently moved from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure (WP:ANRFC) in Wikipedia talk:Closure requests § Requested move 22 March 2021. Multiple editors in the requested move suggested usurping this shortcut for the closure requests noticeboard.

According to pageview data, the closure requests noticeboard received a combined 7,353 pageviews in the last 90 days, while Wikipedia:Cleanup resources received only 344 in the same time period. — Newslinger talk 11:58, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • I think it would probably be best to Disambiguate this, as the current target has a hatnote with 4 other pages this could reasonably be targeted to, and we now have two processes with this initialism which have a reasonable claim to it, one because they've been using this shortcut for 15 years and have hundereds of backlinks, the other because it's a widely used noticeboard. I think a reasonable dab page would include Wikipedia:Cleanup resources, Wikipedia:Closure requests, Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects, probably a couple of others I've missed. Perhaps claim a new shortcut for the closure requests noticeboard, e.g. no one is using WP:CLR yet. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Closure requests per nom; shortcuts are meant to shortcuts, not longcuts. The incoming links will need to be fixed however.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 01:47, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I would strongly lean toward retargeting if it weren't for the issue of all the historical links to the old shortcut. Is there any way to mass change those so that they don't start pointing to the wrong place? If so, we should do that. I oppose disambiguation, which combines the worst of both: disrupts the history, and prevents WP:Closure requests from obtaining a convenient shortcut it was specifically moved to the new title so it could have. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 22:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    ​Yes, either AutoWikiBrowser or JavaScript Wiki Browser can change the old WP:CR links into piped links that point to Wikipedia:Cleanup resources. I can do this if there is consensus to retarget, and anyone is welcome to join in. — Newslinger talk 01:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
    Okay, in that case, Retarget. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 01:38, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep or disambiguate - This redirect is more than one decade old, so in my opinion, the time for changing it has passed. However, a disambiguation page may be helpful, if that is something done for Wikipedia space. Per WP:ONEOTHER, "If there are two or three other topics, it is still possible to use a hatnote which lists the other topics explicitly, but if this would require too much text (roughly, if the hatnote would extend well over one line on a standard page), then it is better to create a disambiguation page and refer only to that." --Jax 0677 (talk) 21:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Disambiguate seems to be best -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 01:05, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Disambiguate per above. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 00:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per consensus at Wikipedia_talk:Closure_requests#Requested_move_22_March_2021. I proposed Wikipedia:Requests for closure initially, but that was rejected due to lacking a suitable acronym, indicating editors cared for a suitable acronym to the page when agreeing to move that title. (the retarget was mentioned in the proposal and nobody made a comment opposing the retarget, and a few explicitly made arguments for why it was appropriate to hijack the redirect). TBH, I thought that discussion was consensus to enact that consensus until I saw this RfD exists when I was looking to implement the retargeting today (I suppose all retargets need to go via RfD? TIL.) Anyway, Wikipedia:Cleanup resources is absolutely not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Incoming links should probably be updated if this is retargeted. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:31, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  • COUNTER Proposal: Why not CRN (Closure Requests Noticeboard) as the new shortcut? Solves the history/archive problem, short, and logical. GenQuest "scribble" 18:31, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's a mouthful to (unnecessarily, IMO) add "noticeboard" onto the end and makes the title more convoluted. I'm not convinced ATM the history/archive problem is major (it's solvable in the manner Newslinger says above), and would happen every time a dab page is created (per WP:DAB) or removed (per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC), and happens in other areas too (like when templates are deleted). But I could be wrong, as redirects aren't my specialty. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 15:04, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Note for closer: The discussion at Wikipedia talk:Closure requests#Requested move 22 March 2021, which passed, was in large part predicated on hijacking WP:CR, something that was explicitly spelled out in the nomination. Given the large amount of participation at that discussion, the closer may wish to give some amount of weight to the views of the !voters there. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. We should always be very conservative about changing the target of shortcut redirects because doing so has the potential to cause old comments (linked and unlinked), edit summaries, etc. to become misleading and causing the same problems for new comments - people do not expect shortcuts to change so they will continue to write and read them as meaning the old target while others will do the same for the new one causing miscommunication and confusion. This shortcut has been established as referring to the current target for over 15 years so any change will be disruptive. That a newly renamed page has the same initials does not come close to justifying or outweighing that disruption, especially when it is already linked in a hatnote. I also oppose disambiguation as that just makes all the old (and new) links ambiguous causing nearly as much disruption while benefiting nobody. Thryduulf (talk) 12:51, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Wikipedia:Closure requests. The now renamed closure requests is are more valuable page to quickly link to than the current.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 01:12, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget. Here's the thing. I agree that we should be super careful about retargeting a longstanding shortcut. But this particular shortcut is currently an obscure page that's likely cited very rarely. The cost is comparatively small, and the gain comparatively large. Wikipedia talk:Closure requests#Requested move 22 March 2021 indicated a strong consensus to usurp this redirect, and I think that was the right call. Tamwin (talk) 20:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

AcademicElitism[edit]

  • AcademicElitism → Ivory tower  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Academic elitism → Elitism#Academic  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Not really sure what to make of this one. It's quite literally one of the oldest things on the site – created in Feb 2001 by Jimbo himself. It seems to have had a technical purpose earlier, but I'm not well-versed enough in the coding aspects to know what it was. The issue here is that academic elitism is itself a redirect to elitism, meaning if the redirect is determined to serve a purpose as a plausible misspelling, it should probably at least be retargeted. Leaving this here for more discussion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 09:37, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Definitely do not delete, see {{R from CamelCase}}. Retargeting seems useful. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:58, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep and refine to Ivory tower#Academic usage. I think Academic elitism should be retargeted to Ivory tower#Academic usage as well since the current target, Elitism#Academic, was removed from that article in 2019 as it was unreferenced. Regardless of what target is decided, they should be the same. A7V2 (talk) 11:44, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Somehow sync with Academic elitism, as R from CamelCase for that term, and also tag as R avoided double redirect. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:19, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment When this page was created, it did initially have some text: [33]. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 21:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
There was an entire article at Academic elitism until 2014, when it was turned into a redirect due to having serious issues and being poorly sourced Diff 86.23.109.101 (talk) 22:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I have added Academic elitism to this nomination because the two are clearly related. Pinging @AllegedlyHuman: @Paul 012: @1234qwer1234qwer4:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:24, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget both to Elitism, which has a See also entry to Ivory tower. Neither target is perfect but I'm not sure Ivory tower really deals with what academic elitism is. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Halo pc[edit]

  • Halo pc → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo PC → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo (PC Game) → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ]
  • Halo (computer game) → Halo: Combat Evolved  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Back when these redirect were created the only halo game available on PC was combat evolved, with the rest of the series being Xbox exclusive, but that is no longer the case. Halo 2 was released on PC in 2007 ish, and the rest of the series have recently been ported to PC as part of Halo: The Master Chief Collection. At this exact moment in time I think the primary topic of these redirects is probably the master chief collection based on a google search, but that's probably recentism due to the collection only recently being released. I propose retargeting these to the article on the franchise. (Halo (franchise)) 86.23.109.101 (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Retarget to Halo (franchise)#Game series. Probably didn't need to be discussed here unless there was pushback on the retargetting. Also take a look at the hatnote on that page following any new redirects to it. Lithopsian (talk) 14:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all As stated by the nominator, they are now too vague since every Halo game is on PC. They no longer have any navigational purpose as "Halo PC" now means the same thing as "Halo".ZXCVBNM (TALK) 09:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Delete "halo pc" variations as a halo that is politically correct or halo around personal computers are unrelated to HALO the PC version -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 01:06, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Retarget to Halo (franchise)#Game series. Plausible search term, especially since the franchise was notoriously slow in getting its games onto PC, so "Halo as a PC game is just Halo" isn't as commonly known for a general audience. Definitely a stronger case for not deleting the bracketed versions since search intention is clearer with those. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget per Patar Knight. Plausible search term. Jontesta (talk) 21:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Help:Admonitions[edit]

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Template:Cute news[edit]

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Astitene[edit]

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Astateen[edit]

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Tyrium[edit]

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Archibald Philip, 5th Earl of Rosebery Primrose[edit]

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HotH[edit]

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Anne Productions[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Anne Productions

Anjuman Institute of Technology and Management[edit]

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Arcade tournament[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 5#Arcade tournament

Wikipedia:Clueless newbie[edit]

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JLin[edit]

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Hmong genocide[edit]

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Wikipedia:NOTSEARCHENGINE[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: Delete.

,R and B[edit]

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. Salkuni[edit]

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. December 2017 Kabul Bombing[edit]

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Strongbox[edit]

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2004 Republican Presidential Candidates[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: withdrawn

Solidarite Fanm Ayisyèn[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted

Ministère à la Condition féminine et aux Droits des femmes[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy deleted

British King who got his head cut off[edit]

  • British King who got his head cut off → Charles I of England  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Delete, but rather because it is a pointy response to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 04:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as an obviously WP:POINTy response to the result of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. It's an inappropriate redirect for the reasons laid out regarding the similar redirect in that discussion. ― Tartan357 Talk 04:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Meets none of the purposes at Wikipedia:Redirect#Purposes of redirects. DrKay (talk) 06:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as a useful and unambiguous search term. Just because some people dislike redirects of this nature is not a reason to delete those that help people find the content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 10:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous RfD. Thryduulf, it's not a good look to create a redirect from a term someone mentioned as a redirect we shouldn't have as soon as the RfD in question is closed not in your favor. -- Tavix (talk) 11:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Thyrduulf, as an administrator, you should know better than to violate WP:POINT like you did in creating this redirect. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    There was nothing pointy about this creation, it was created as a result of multiple people in the previous discussion suggesting it would be a better search term - I agreed and so created it. Thryduulf (talk) 19:14, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Newyorkbrad said there, "For example, we don't redirect King who had six wives to Henry VIII or British King who got his head cut off to Charles I." (exact capitalisation) Your King who had six wives redirect was gone per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 August 2#King who had six wives, though such deletion did not arise from pointless. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 20:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    And you will note in the King who had six wives discussion that I explained extensively why such redirects are a good thing and how, in the absence of the redirect, the search engine does not find the content that people are looking for when using the search term meaning deletion harms the encyclopaedia. I still stand by those arguments and will continue arguing against actions that harm the encyclopaedia while providing no (or less) benefit to the project. This is another example where deletion will bring harm and no benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 23:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I am very willing to own it up if I have said it as well as to apologise for and retract this comment if so, but I did not acknowledge your extensive explanations, if you have indeed made any. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Eh? I'm sorry, but that comment reads mostly as a jumble of words. Thryduulf (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I am sorry, but I did not recall myself myself noting "in the King who had six wives discussion that [you have] explained extensively why such redirects are a good thing and how". I am very willing to retract this statement if I am proven wrong. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Eh? I mean, will note is present tense not past tense.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Whilst he was the only one (for now at least), seems implausible search term. Also technically he wasn't British King, as the Kingdom of Great Britain didn't exist until 1707 (he was King of England, Scotland and Ireland) Joseph2302 (talk) 17:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete exclusively per Joseph2302, it's an incorrect redirect. For the record, Newyorkbrad's arguments in the past discussion come from a user who, despite being a highly knowledgeable and highly respected user, clearly does not understand "the way the redirect system usually works", which is that it exists only "to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read" (from the lede of the relevant policy), which means it "usually works" by providing information to readers via whatever method they choose to look for it. These "we're not a search engine" arguments are malicious to readers for no good reason. Besides Joseph2302, nobody else here has actually put forward an argument for deletion (as in, one of the bullets listed under WP:RFD#DELETE): the page's origin is not an argument for deletion unless WP:G5 applies, which it clearly does not. We can have a constructive discussion about the utility of the redirect absent the personal attacks against the page's creator, and if you're just here to raise drama about that, please go do something else. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 14:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
    • An appeal to precedent for a very similar redirect in a discussion that resulted in deletion is in fact an argument for deletion. That you disagree with the precedent does not negate that. Every !vote need not always reference Wikipedia:Redirect/Deletion reasons in order to be a valid !vote. For what it's worth, "incorrect redirect" is not a bullet listed under WP:RFD#DELETE (c.f. {{R from incorrect term}}). -- Tavix (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
      Any of 2, 5, or 8 could apply to harmfully incorrect redirect titles, in this case that, as Joseph2302 pointed out, there are no British kings known to have been beheaded; Charles was Scottish by birth (I think) and was king of England and Ireland, not any of the crowns known as British. It could be said that the title is valid anyway since British and English are easily confused, but I don't see that anyone's made that argument.
      The rest of this side discussion is of course about a different redirect from this one, for anyone else reading and confused by two editors who both !voted delete arguing with each other about it. You're correct about precedent but this precedent in particular is an example of both false authority and confirmation bias: Newyorkbrad's comments are being taken as an authoritative and infallible interpretation of policy by those who already agreed with that position, but his comments are one editor's opinion, and one which is provably wrong by a simple reading of the actual written policy. If there's a relevant precedent, it's that redirects that help readers find information should be kept, per WP:RPURPOSE and WP:RFD#KEEP numbers 3 and 5 which, rather than being one opinion, represent the consensus of years of community discussion and debate. Consensus can change, but Newyorkbrad's four-year-old opinion is not the test. Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 10:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
      • Ultimately most of that is irrelevant because redirects do not have to be technically correct - if editors are searching for this content using this search term (or a search term that is more similar to this one than the page title), and they are, and it is not otherwise harmful (and despite many assertions nobody has actually provided any reason why it is beyond not liking this style of redirect) then it is a net positive to the encyclopaedia. Without the redirect it becomes harder for readers to find this content, using internal or external search engines, so the project would be harmed by deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. Implausible MB 22:44, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why do you consider this redirect, that directly relates to a section of the target article, to be implausible? Thryduulf (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep, I mean, obvious keep, right? First of all, we're here to serve the reader, it surely does serve some non-zero number of readers, and it doesn't hurt anyone, and redirects are cheap. What is the upside to deleting it. Don't tell me this rule or that rule. Don't tell me this precedent or that person should know better or the other essay says this. Tell me "Deleting this redirect will enhance the experience of readers searching on this term because _________". Give me something good to go in the blank or go home.
Second of all, we have lots of redirects like this. It is established common practice. "Largest city in the world" is redirect (devolves to List of largest cities). "Fourth President of the United States" is a redirect (devolves to James Madison). "Tallest mountain in the world" is a redirect (devolves to List of mountain peaks by prominence). "Coldest place on earth" is a redirect (devolves to Pole of Cold). "Highest grossing movie" is a redirect (devolves to List of highest-grossing films). "First emperor of china" is a redirect (devolves to Qin Shi Huang). "Book about law" is a redirect (devolves to Law book). And so forth. Isn't this redirect we're talking about pretty similar?
I get that apparently there is some political squabbling here, and some people don't want other people to sit with them at lunch, but I can't keep up with that and don't care. I gather that King who died with a hot poker up the ass was deleted but so? Why double down on one-off mistakes? We're here to serve the reader, and I'm concerned that we are ginning up for a general purge of these types of redirects, and I think that'd be a big problem.
So I'd line to advise the closer to maybe not pay so much attention to politics and factions and counting sides so much but perhaps maybe advising OP and supporters to initate a well-advertised general RfC, before a huge purge of these kinds of redirects goes down. I'd like to see a lot of community input on the general question rather than one-by-one guerrila actions. Herostratus (talk) 02:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Move to English king who got his head cut off which would be both technically correct and uniquely identifying since Causantín mac Cináeda might have been beheaded, and he's also a British king in the sense that he's a king who ruled in the British isles. If it wasn't non-uniquely identifying, I don't think having the current title would be an issue, since British is used so often to just refer to anything related to the British isles or interchangeably with English, even if from a legal, political standpoint it should only be applied for post-1707, Kingdom of Great Britain things. Charles I even minted coins that styled himself as "King of Great Britain" (see photo: here). I disagree with the delete !votes on plausibility, helpfulness for the reader, WP:POINT, etc. for the same reasons I gave in the RFD below, only in this case the beheading is not disputed and much more famous.---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:47, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Why does English have silent letters[edit]

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King killed by a red hot poker[edit]

  • King killed by a red hot poker → Edward II of England  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  1. We are not a search engine. Even if we are, the {{R from search term}} was not present as of now.
  2. King Edward II's articles states, at Edward II of England#Controversy, that it is not confirmed whether he indeed died from a poker; in relation to this rumour the section states, "Most historians now dismiss this account of Edward's death, querying the logic in his captors murdering him in such an easily detectable fashion."
  3. Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass closed as delete

NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep if someone is searching for this term (which I evidently was) they will learn that it's (probably) not true so {{R from misnomer}} directly applies there. More generally it's a useful search term that takes readers to exactly the content they are looking for without having to navigate unpredictable search results that are sometimes several clicks away. It's unambiguous, harmless and useful so there is no justification for deletion. Thryduulf (talk) 03:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Convenience to you does not necessarily equal convenience to the Community; just because you find this redirect helpful, doesn't mean that everyone will agree with you. For me it would be most convenient if Soroka is redirected to Mike, but, oh well... NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 03:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: This matter has clearly been settled already. ― Tartan357 Talk 04:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    That discussion was significantly about the specific phrasing used and is not applicable to this redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 10:53, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    But User:Newyorkbrad's point that "we don't usually create redirects by describing the article subject, especially where the description could be worded in dozens of ways" still stands. While he did give exceptions:
  1. His argument did not focus on how you word King Edward's rumour; rather, he was arguing against creating redirects from description. I believe that one description reworded does not make it no longer a description.
  2. Quoting NYB: "If we were to create redirects based on such descriptions, their number would be virtually unlimited."
NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Meets none of the purposes at Wikipedia:Redirect#Purposes of redirects, also clearly in contravention and deliberate circumvention of the prior deletion discussion. DrKay (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per the previous RfD; clearly WP:POINTY creation. -- Tavix (talk) 11:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Thyrduulf, as an administrator, you should know better than to violate WP:POINT like you did in creating this redirect. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @DrKay: I created the redirect as a useful search term that was not present. There was nothing pointy happening at all, and I would appreciate a bit more AGF to be honest. Thryduulf (talk) 19:10, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    The British King who got his head cut off would like to say hi. As for WP:AGF, I was called a "waste of time" over Talk:Michael John Graydon Soroka, thus I understand your sentiments. However, there is a huge difference between a lurker not knowing stuff (me) and an admin, CU, OS, and former arbitrator not knowing stuff. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Thryduulf: You have participated in the discussion that resulted in King who died with a hot poker up the ass being deleted, and you replied to the points that NYB made there. I believe that you must have seen his argument that there would be infinite redirects if we make descriptions into redirects, no? If I were you, I would have recused in not creating its redirect (or do it after consensus). Again, we don't redirect Atlanta Braves Opening Day Starter, 2021 to Max Fried for a reason. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 19:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I saw NYB's comments and I, and others, disagreed with them. The rationale for creation was explained there and has been explained since. If you think Atlanta Braves Opening Day Starter, 2021 is a useful search term that people are going to be looking up in an encyclopaedia (I have no opinion, I don't know enough about the topic) and which the search engine will not adequately deal with (for those that manage to get results) then absolutely it should be created as a redirect. There is no benefit to the encyclopaedia in making it harder for people to find the content they are looking for because some people happen to dislike the way they looked for it. Thryduulf (talk) 19:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Not a realistic search term, especially when it's disputed whether it actually happened. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Pinging the participants of that related discussion who have not commented here (excluding one editor who has indicated they have redired) @Neveselbert, Ruslik0, Ivanvector, Plantdrew, Patar knight, Ravenswing, Newyorkbrad, and Mike Christie:. Thryduulf (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Oh for crying out loud. Aside from that it's still an implausible redirect, Newyorkbrad's cogent rationale four years ago remains. The scope for infinite similar redirects is insane. President who was scared by a killer bunny? Guy who blew his political career up driving off a bridge? Olympic ski jumper who was a worldwide joke? Wikipedia is not Quora, Google or Reddit, thanks. Ravenswing 20:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Firstly this is a WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, but if those are search terms that are going to help readers find the content they are looking for (I don't know) then they should be created: we should have every redirect where the utility outweighs the harm and should not have any where the harm outweighs the utility, how many redirects that is could not be more irrelevant. Thryduulf (talk) 22:33, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. Thanks for the ping. "The scope for infinite similar redirects is insane"; I agree. As it says at WP:Wikipedia is not Google: "whatever you want to find can be found with a web search engine". That's not what our redirects are for, as far as I can see. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:Wikipedia is not Google is an essay about article content, it is irrelevant to redirects. Thryduulf (talk) 22:34, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • (responding to ping) Delete per nom and others. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 20:50, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf. As pointed out above, there's a lot of other redirects like this one that haven't been created but should be. So we've got a long way to go yet in making the encyclopedia navigationally helpful. Readers who searched this up had heard this theory but forgot the name of a king and evidently wanted it. This redirect helped in that regard. So I've proven that this redirect is helpful. Does anyone disagree? No? Okay. So currently it looks like this redirect is helpful. To overturn that balance, it has to be proven that this redirect is harmful. Does anyone have any ideas on how this redirect is harmful in a way that outweighs the helpfulness described above? Because I don't have any.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    It might perpetuate the myth that KEII died from the spade. Also, keeping it in fosters pointiness (it in itself isn't bad, but manifestation in this way is). NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    If the myth thing is a problem, then just target the redirect to the section where it is discussed as untrue (Edward II of England#Controversies). And a creation isn't pointy in a bad way unless it is detrimental to the encyclopedia.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict × 2) I mean it's in the tile of WP:POINT: do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Nothing about do not help Wikipedia to illustrate a point – which isn't what Thryduulf did anyway, but that's another point and as such is besides the point. :) WP:NOTPOINTy is what applies, at the very most.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Please explain how keeping a redirect that educates people about the myth perpetuates it? I have no idea what your second sentence is trying to say. Thryduulf (talk) 23:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I believe that you did not have the Community in mind when you have created this redirect, a sentiment shared by several people in accusing that you are pointy. If we keep that, it would just send out the signal that disruptive pointiness is condoned. NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 23:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    I created the redirect for the benefit of the readers of the encyclopaedia by making it easier for them to find the content they are looking for when using a search term that many of them are likely to use. Even if the creation was pointy (which it wasn't) that is completely irrelevant - if the redirect is helpful (which it is) it should be kept regardless of why it was created, if the redirect is unhelpful (for which there is no evidence) then it should be deleted regardless of why it was created. Thryduulf (talk) 23:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    (edit conflict) I think they're saying that this should be deleted because they view its creation as WP:POINTY, which paradoxically is probably in itself pointy behaviour. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 23:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    ...which is probably an incorrect viewpoint anyhow considering WP:NOTPOINTy. So... advocating for minor disruption of Wikipedia to illustrate an incorrect point around pointiness? Cool.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:46, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf, per WP:RFD#K5 (it's clearly useful) and per WP:HOAX (obviously a notable hoax). The title is appropriate: this is an historic legend, the target explains its origin and historicity, and explains that it's likely false. The arguments in favor of deletion have failed to demonstrate why it's beneficial to the reader to make this information more difficult to locate, nor why their personal distaste outweighs function. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 09:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. I'm generally not a fan of factoid redirects, as it's trivial to come up with dozens of them and let their creation get out of control, but this is a well known myth that is discussed in the target article. Speculations about why the redirect were created are not a reason to delete it, we evaluate redirects on their merits and utility. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep per Thryduulf, it is actually a useful search term. Getting a bit tired of seeing not Google arguments, redirects help users get to the content they are looking for. Why would intentionally make it more difficult. I don't see that this particular instance opens the door for more meaningless trivia style redirects. Polyamorph (talk) 19:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete unless a purpose can be justified per WP:RPURPOSE. 0, 1 and 2 (sometimes 3) views every few months from the time it was created four years back, does not justify use as a search term. Jay (talk) 21:08, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
    There are fundamentally only two purposes for redirects, one is to maintain attribution, the other is to help readers find content they are looking for. Everything at WP:RPURPOSE is just an example (and note the list is explicitly not comprehensive) of one of those purposes. As repeatedly explained this redirect helps readers find content they are looking for and causes absolutely no harm whatsoever, so deletion would be harmful for no benefit. Thryduulf (talk) 21:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
    It's not used as a search term, as shown by the page views: 0 last month. And even if it were, editors would still be directed to this article: [34][35][36]. DrKay (talk) 06:41, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    The existence of this redirect enables those who use the internal search engine with this or similar terms to find the article (experience shows that without it the results will extremely unlikely be at all useful) and is also at least part of the reason why the external search engines know to connect the search term with our article. Only people who use the exact search term and click via the redirect get recorded in the statistics for the redirect. Even if it is just 3 people a month on average who find this helpful, why is that problematic? That's three people a month who have found the content they are looking for that otherwise would not have done. We don't delete articles that are only read a handful of times a month because they don't help enough people, and there are no downsides to keeping the redirect (other than a few people disliking it). Thryduulf (talk) 11:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    There are 20 cases listed at WP:RPURPOSE and aiding our basic search engine is not one of them. Since you feel very strongly about this and see this coming under the broad generalization of what a redirect is, I would suggest you bring this up at the Redirect guideline page and get the support there. Rfd would not be the appropriate forum to decide on exceptions. Jay (talk) 19:12, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    The lead of Wikipedia:Redirect says "Redirects are used to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read" I'm not sure how a redirect that helps people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read can be contrary to that? How is assisting the search engine anything other than "help[ing] people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read"?
    Further, the introduction to WP:RPURPOSE says "Reasons for creating and maintaining redirects include:" (emphasis mine) i.e. the list does not contain every situation in which a redirect is appropriate, therefore there is no need for an exception. You are correct that I feel strongly about this - why would I not when I am seeing experienced Wikipedians arguing to harm the project by making it harder for readers to find the content they are looking for? Thryduulf (talk) 22:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    WP:RPURPOSE is an inclusive list and not an exclusive list. In fact, I think that 17 of those 20 reasons fall under aiding our basic search engine. After all, if it was perfect (and by that I mean impossibly perfect), we by and large wouldn't need redirects. Anyhow, I think that the redirect falls under an alternative name for the target, and describing a subtopic of the target article. And given that we're talking about guidelines here, RHARMFUL (Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones) and K4 apply to this redirect as reasons to keep it.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 23:07, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
    By search engine capabilities, what I had in mind was using tag words or understanding search text in the form of questions. Those are what a search engine should do, and not be dependent on editors creating pages with different combinations of questioning text. Not one of the 20 points suggested that redirects can also be of this kind that will help a reader to his target. Again, Rfd is not the place for debate, the Wikipedia talk:Redirect is. Jay (talk) 05:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
    Look, RPURPOSE is explanatory. It says nothing about RfD or deleting redirects. You're selectively ignoring other parts of the guideline, for example, the nutshell:

    Redirects aid navigation and searching by allowing a page to be reached under alternative titles

    What about the lead?

    Redirects are used to help people arrive more quickly at the page they want to read

    Maybe a guideline around the deletion of redirects is more appropriate than a explanatory section? RHARMFUL:

    Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones

    This redirect isn't harmful or recent. But it most definitely is helpful. K5:

    Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Wikipedia in different ways.

    Hey, why not throw K3 in there?

    They aid searches on certain terms

    But that isn't the most important consideration around evaluating the merits of redirects. This is: Would deleting this redirect be beneficial to the encyclopedia? I'm yet to see an answer of no yes.  J947 ‡ message ⁓ edits 05:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep as a useful redirect for people whose recall is not perfect. I'm not an expert in English medieval history, but I've certainly heard the story, and if I was pushed I'd probably remember that it was about the Edward who was friendly with Piers Gaveston, but I'd only be able to guess about which number Edward he was. This redirect leads me to the correct content. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:18, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per Ravenswing and others. MB 22:10, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. We're here to serve the reader. Remember her? All the other stuff about this POINTy and that rule and the other opinion or whatever is secondary to that. I've heard literally nothing in all the above about the reader. The person searching on the string. That's maybe kind of an indication that we're asking the wrong questions here. Herostratus (talk) 03:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep or possibly Refine to Edward_II_of_England#Controversies. I stand by my comment in the prior RfD. Edward II's death is one of the more famous deaths of a British monarch (e.g. Times Higher Education calling it "arguably the most famous in English Royal History" [37]). We can't expect people to recall perfectly who this applied to. As Ivanvector showed in the previous RFD, redirects like this help Wikipedia's internal search function and therefore help readers reach the pages they want, which besides legal attribution requirements, is the primary purpose of redirects (see WP:RFD#K3). The usage and the historical context is also enough to pass WP:RFD#K5. If we want to point to a specific entry at the non-exhaustive WP:POFR, I would argue that this is the less historically-knowledgeable person's version of something like Historicity of Edward II's alleged death by red-hot poker iron or Historiography on method of execution for Edward II of England, which would both be valid redirects from subtopics. I also want to briefly address some of the deletion arguments:
  1. Search engine/opening the floodgates: It's possible to allow some redirects that look like search engine queries referencing reasonably well-known facts such as Edward II's death and while disallowing search engine queries that are so obscure that they would have no utility (e.g. King who denied responsibility for his troops hanging a French sergeant near Agenais, referencing Edward II of England#War with France). Neither the current target of WP:NOTSEARCHENGINE (an essay targeted at linkspammers), nor the proposed target at that shortcut's RFD apply here. This is not some unsourced claim of no encyclopedic value, but something to which the Edward II article, an FA, devotes an [[[Edward_II_of_England#Controversies|entire paragraph and a long explanatory note]] as part of its in-depth coverage of his death. Having this redirect, which is helpful both directly to those readers who use it, or indirectly by helping Wikipedia's internal search engine, doesn't mean that people will go out of their way to create "infinite" unhelpful redirects.
  2. It probably didn't happen: Whether something is factually true or not doesn't matter in terms of having a redirect if there is reliable, sourced encyclopedic content about it, which which there in this case. We have tons of articles on probably apocryphal stories and crazy conspiracy theories all over Wikipedia (e.g. King Canute and the tide, Possible monorchism of Adolf Hitler, 9/11 conspiracy theories) and they all get appropriate redirects. We're not here to litigate the truth of the claim made by the redirect, but the merits of having the redirect.
  3. WP:POINT: This redirect seems to be a good-faith attempt to address the concerns raised at the prior RfD, so it wouldn't fall under POINT, which only applies when a user applies existing consensus, policy, or guidelines that they disagree with in bad-faith manner to prove their "point". The RFD was a close 6-5 split and one of the delete !votes explicitly cited the use of "ass" as reason for why they preferred deletion. This redirect removes that word – a distinction recognized when a G4 speedy deletion was declined – and shortens the search phrase. Both of these changes make it a more plausible search term. Based on my experience with Thryduulf, they truly do have a broader and more liberal viewpoint of what can be a good redirect. Even if this was a POINTy creation, a POINT violation in and of itself is not a valid reason for deletion, and the redirect should be judged on its own merits. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 07:25, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Urf. I hate these slippery-slope opening-the-floodgates arguments. "If you allow execution for murder, next we'll be executing jaywalkers." "If you allow abortion, next we'll be killing three-year-olds". No, because we have the sense that God gave sheep and are able to figure out proper boundaries and cutoffs for things. There are times when slippery-slope arguments are appropriate, but it's rare. And this isn't one of those times. Herostratus (talk) 13:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Mu I guess we should have a disambiguation page for poker in the rear to help readers who might be searching for either King Edward's alleged death, a particular double entendre ("liquor up front, poker in the rear"), or the subtitle of a musical album based on the double entendre. Readers might enter "poker in the rear" in Wikipedia's search, so we should help them find the article they want (and Edward's death doesn't show up in that search currently). Plantdrew (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

State Leader of Myanmar[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#State Leader of Myanmar

Tanten[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 29#Tanten

Hamza Division[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: speedy keep

April 20[edit]

British King who abdicated[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

. LORD PALMERSTON[edit]

Delete Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

Tecumseh Sherman[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Henry Bannerman[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Henry Asquith[edit]

Keep Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: keep

Incompetent valves[edit]

  • Incompetent valves → Heart valve  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 
  • Incompetent valve → Heart valve  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] added by 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Valvular incompetence → Valvular heart disease  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] added by 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't believe that this specific term is mentioned at the target.  — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  08:04, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. Incompetent valves, and Incompetent valve, is used to refer to heart valves, and as far as I can see nothing else, although I agree a mention would be useful. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:35, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment venous valves can be incompetent [38]; chronic venous insufficiency briefly mentions valvular incompetence too. Out of my depth in this subject area, so I'm not sure what's the best solution here - a mention at Regurgitation (circulation)? 61.239.39.90 (talk) 13:04, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget Incompetent valve and Incompetent valves to Valvular heart disease. Jay (talk) 05:52, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Business Information Systems[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 28#Business Information Systems

MOS:Naming convention[edit]

  • MOS:Naming convention → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

I was looking for Wikipedia:Naming conventions when I entered this; not sure the current target's topic can be called "naming conventions". 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Just to give some history: This redirect goes back a long way... there was a time back in the mid 2000s when we talked about articles having a “name”. This caused a lot of confusion because people were not sure whether we were referring to the name of the subject or the “name” of of the article (not always the same). We realized that we needed to separate these two concepts better, by shifting terminology... we decided to stop talking about an article’s NAME, and instead talk about an article’s TITLE.
So... we changed our WP:Naming conventions guideline (which mostly talked about how to “name” an article) to WP:Article titles (which was soon promoted to Policy status).
However, there were a few parts of the old WP:Naming conventions guideline that dealt with how to present the subject’s name beyond an article title, (such as whether to present nicknames in quotes or parentheses). These were primarily STYLE issues, so we hived these bits off, and created a separate MOS:Naming convention guideline to deal with these issues.
Hope this history helps clarify why the various policies and guidelines are (currently) entitled as they are, why the various redirects exist, and why they (currently) point where they do.
I spell it out not to support or object to any new proposals, but merely to inform the discussion. Blueboar (talk) 21:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
@Blueboar This makes sense to me, though I am still not sure if the target is really about "naming". I guess the hatnote which is already present at the target does help, and my search using "MOS:" instead of "WP:", which was my motivation for this nomination, was a bit unfortunate. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the explanation, Blueboar. Since WP:Naming conventions refers to article titles, we could align this with MOS:TITLES and retarget it to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Titles. - Eureka Lott 14:42, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
     Comment: @EurekaLott This is the current target. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Whoops, apologies for being oblivious. I guess that means I'm fine with keeping this as-is. - Eureka Lott 16:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Retarget to Wikipedia:Article titles. Probably what people are looking for when they typed this in. SCP-053 (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment Someone seems to have pinged me here, althought I can't see their comment. SCP-053 (talk) 02:01, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
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UNC-R[edit]

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 27#UNC-R

Chees[edit]

  • Chees → Cheese  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Recognising that April Fools is now over and that this is a proper RfD, this redirect should be deleted. It's tagged as a misspelling but it could refer to cheese, chess, cheers, etc. An alternative could be to retarget to Cheez but I prefer deletion. Anarchyte (talk • work) 05:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

  • There's also the Chees (disambiguation) redirect, that might be worth bundling here. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 11:06, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Chee; the surname can have a plural, not sure if the others can, but any other significant uses can be mentioned there. Peter James (talk) 13:23, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Redirect to Chee, for the same reason as Peter James. Kokopelli7309 (talk) 23:19, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. None of the entries at Chee naturally take a plural. As a typo, too ambiguous to be useful. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
    • Comment both the given name and the surname nautrally take plural forms. Like "keeping up with the Joneses" uses the plural form for "Jones", a surname. "there are 3 Toms in class" takes the plural for "Tom", a given name. Thus the given name and surname "Chee" can use "Chees" as plural. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 08:56, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
      Yes, but Chee just has links for Chee (surname) or Chee (given name), rather than a list of names that could be plural. I guess searchers could be seeking a list of people with the name, which would be plural because there are multiple such people with articles. In such a case it seems like a pretty week search term if that's what was really being sought, which seems unlikely, and will bring the searcher to a dab page where none of the entries can be plural and they still have to choose given name or surname. So search results seem better here to me, given the potential that it could just be a typo as discussed above. There seems to be no consistent way to handle plurals of names. For example Nicks targets Nix (surname) rather than Nick or Nick (disambiguation) (though there is a hatnote). Joneses targets The Joneses and not Jones or any of its entries. (These could probably benefit from RfDs too, as I'm not sure their current targets are best.) Mdewman6 (talk) 01:39, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete or disambiguate unorthodoxly as ambiguous. The vast majority of readers finding this redirect will not be looking for Chee and as such, a retarget there would be suboptimal in my opinion. Cheese and chess are likely what most readers are looking for. J947's public account 23:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep a google search shows that "cheese" is what the vast majority of people using this word on the internet mean. Thryduulf (talk) 01:02, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete as ambiguous. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    • The target is a disambiguation page. It is supposed to be ambiguous. The disambiguation page lists topics that use the plural form "Chees" -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 17:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
      • It currently is not. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 20:04, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
        • Sorry, my error. It should target the disambiguation page, since it is ambiguous. -- 67.70.27.246 (talk) 21:14, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Glizzy[edit]

  • Glizzy → Shy Glizzy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Redirect to hot dog. Glizzy is a regional dialectical synonym of hot dog, and people searching for it would not be expecting the rapper. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

it’s not currently mentioned at all at the proposed target so is there any evidence that people typing Glizzy would be more likely looking up hot dogs?--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I also noticed that at one point Glizzy was a dab page where it was also said to be a term for a Glock and that article doesn’t mention the term either. Basically, we need more evidence.--67.70.101.238 (talk) 19:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
The answer to that is simply. Yes. The terms are related and it's slang that originates in the Washington DC and Maryland area. A simple search brings up multiple references to the term on articles, and even youtube videos from area residents. Interestingly enough, it the term is also referenced on the Wiktionary glizzy as a hot dog reference, as well as a reference to the rapper, AND the gun. The term may in fact originate from said rapper or involve him in some way. 216.9.28.77 (talk) 16:58, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
This is clearly on odd situation, in that we have three different meanings, but only one of them is actually mentioned in an article. Redirecting it to an article that does not use the term is not a good solution. Perhaps using WP:HATNOTEs on the article on the person is the correct answer? Something like maybe? Beeblebrox (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The hatnote solution might look a little messy. Why not restore the DAB? BlackholeWA (talk) 14:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Please don't use a hatnote to direct a reader to an article where the term isn't mentioned. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
We do that all the time with informal nicknames like this. It's certainly preferable to a redirect that does the same. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Do we? Where? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Hot wiener. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
    Why? I don't see the connection with Rhode Island at all. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
    @Beeblebrox: Because the infobox says it's an alternative name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:19, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
    Which was just randomly added in October of last year without a source [39]. I'm not sure that's enough. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:23, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep and hatnote to wikt:glizzy. As a slang term it has multiple meanings, so we should not retarget it to just one of those meanings; nor is it suitable for a disambiguation page, since none of glock, hot dog, nor penis meet WP:DABMENTION. 61.239.39.90 (talk) 05:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Make a disambiguation page. Considering "glizzy" could refer to 3 equally applicable things at once, it's not really viable to handpick one over the other. The best solution is to make a disambiguation page to direct the reader into what they're looking for. Nekomancerjade (talk) 02:57, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Wet tar[edit]

  • Wet tar → Asphalt concrete  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Would these be better targeting Asphalt or Tar? although this is used as a road sign after Asphalt concrete has been laid it's referring to the asphalt component of the mix. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep. I think it's fine as it is: the article has sufficient explanation. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:56, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
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  • Delete. I may be underestimating its value as a term someone would search for (it seems to be more in use in Australia than other places), but I don't see any links actually using this phrase. If it's kept, it should stay pointing to asphalt concrete or maybe redirect to sealcoat. Looking at how it's used, it seems to be more about sealcoats, chipseals, and/or tackcoats than about asphalt concrete, but pointing to just asphalt would be going too far back up the production chain and tar is the wrong product. Carter (talk) 07:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Tar. The term is also used for roofing so we have go broader (and more literal) than roads. -- Tavix (talk) 17:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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  • Keep or disambiguate. Ambiguous term, but it does seem that in a plurality of cases it is in reference to the current target, even though the words "wet" or "tar" do not occur in the article(!). Ideally would be disambiguated if someone wanted to take that on at some point. Deletion to rely on search results doesn't seem right, as searchers seeking the current target would be out of luck. Mdewman6 (talk) 02:28, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Although there is no mention of "wet", there is mention of "liquid", "dissolve", "water", etc., in the target. A Google search gives plenty of images of caution sign-boards saying "wet tar". Jay (talk) 20:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

List of films set in ancient Greece[edit]

  • List of films set in ancient Greece → Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great#Film  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: (@subpage) ] 

Alexander the Great ≠ Ancient Greece. Off the top of my head, Jason and the Argonauts (1963 film), Hercules (1997 film), and 300 (film) are all set in Ancient Greece and have nothing to do with Alexander. A list article could probably be created at this title, but until then this redirect should be deleted. signed, Rosguill talk 17:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete so as to encourage the creation of such a list. --NotReallySoroka (talk) (formerly DePlume) 17:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete nonsensical redirect. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:27, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Leaning delete per above, though an XNR to Category:Films set in ancient Greece would also be an option. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:57, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to the category where people using this search term will find content they are looking for. Thryduulf (talk) 00:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
    Fiction set in Ancient Greece#Films is also a suitable target. Thryduulf (talk) 16:32, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete to encourage article creation. This is a plenty viable list topic -- I might even draft one myself. Having it either as a redirect to something unrelated or an XNR seems an inferior solution. Vaticidalprophet 00:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget to Fiction set in ancient Greece#Films as a temporary measure until a standalone article is created. 86.23.109.101 (talk) 03:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Retarget as the guy who created this redirection I could for some reaon not think of any films set in accent greece beside the ones featuring Alexander the Great now it has been pointed out as there of course more films set in Accent Greece and don't feture Alexander then the redirection should be retargeted to Fiction set in ancient Greece#Films or Category:Films set in ancient Greece as previous comment mentions 17:31, 23 April 2021 (UTC)DoctorHver (talk)
  • Delete to encourage article creation, or (second choice) retarget to the category. —Kusma (t·c) 09:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Add it to WP:Requested articles. 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:00, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Melissa Cross[edit]

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North American winter[edit]

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The Magic Diner[edit]

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Саrоlуn Тrеnсh-Ѕаndіfоrd[edit]

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Bitter (song)[edit]

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Sai Srujan Pelluri[edit]

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Image upload[edit]

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Example Article Name[edit]

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Community health initiative/Per user page, namespace, category, and upload blocking[edit]

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Clean Start[edit]

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Chupa peak[edit]

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The world's littlest scyscraper[edit]

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Bharat (place)[edit]

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TWD[edit]

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Pseudoscience in Pakistan[edit]

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